The Nuclear Battlefield - India vs Pakistan

[Mercenary]

To My Pakistani Compatriots...

Please respond in a civilized manner so that we can have an intellectual debate.

These childish responses are more for kindergarten children and not for intelligent people analyzing defense issues.

 

[FreekiN]

Since the thread turned into a babbling fest after what I posted, im going to post it again and hope it doesnt get wrecked.

Israel probably has WAY MORE.

I can't Understand why guys are fighting a decade old Statics:

Here is the latest one from 2009:

Country Warheads active/total* Year of first test CTBT status
Five nuclear weapons states from the NPT
United States 2,623 / 9,400[3] 1945 ("Trinity") Signatory
Russia (former Soviet Union) 4,718 / 13,000[3] 1949 ("RDS-1") Ratifier
United Kingdom <160 / 185[3] 1952 ("Hurricane") Ratifier
France ~300 / 300[3] 1960 ("Gerboise Bleue") Ratifier
China ~180 / 240[3] 1964 ("596") Signatory
Non-NPT nuclear powers
India n.a. / 60-80[3] 1974 ("Smiling Buddha") Non-signatory
Pakistan n.a. / 70-90[3] 1998 ("Chagai-I") Non-signatory
North Korea n.a. / <10[3] 2006 (2006 test) Non-signatory
Undeclared nuclear powers
Israel n.a. / 80[3] unknown or 1979 (See Vela Incident) Signatory
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Now put your brains to work!!

"Dude this report was deliberately issued by US to please Pakistan and try to remove the Indian fear from Pakistani mind at a very crucial and urgent time, Another plight game of which Pakistan become tangled. I hope some day US stop playing with Pakistan." - devd

Sounds like an inconvenient reaction to an inconvenient truth.

If you did some research you would have found this publication was not made for Pakistan and was not made by a single source. The Federation of American Scientists and the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists have most notably confirmed the accuracy of the estimates of these representations. These two organizations are not government controlled and are actually private.

 

[Aeri-Eye]

Vsdoc ​

Yeah your army, navy & af is coming. We Pakistani's are scared, we don't know what we should do.........

According to you guys, weren't Pakistan suppose to break up 6 months ago? LOL

Keeping dreaming dude.

I agree with the fact that your army is bigger than us, have more weapons, your af is also far better than ours and your navy is, without a doubt, bigger than us and have more advanced weapons.

But you know, there is one thing your country lacks. That is balls. You guys don't have the guts to come up to us and face us. Mumbai drama, staged by your own government, proved it. It doesn't get bigger than this, you didn't had the balls to attack us then, and, without a shadow of a doubt, your country won't be able to grow balls till atleast next 10-20 yrs. The only thing you did after Mumbai drama was to cry infront of the world and sent just two jets to "carry out surgical strikes" in Pakistan. Ha ha.

If, somehow your army does manage to defeat our army and march through Lahore & Islamabad, as per your claims, do you really think the People of Pakistan will sit down and let this happen? Let me tell you one thing, our people don't fear death. Yes, we do have our differences, but when a country like India threatens to send us back to stone age, our people unite, we stand up and become one. We face the enemy together, and give a tight slap to any bastard who has the guts to challenge Pakistan. Please don't live in a dream that Balouchi will fight against Pakistan in an event of a war. We will all unite, Balouchis, Sindhis, Punjabi etc will all become one and will teach your country a lesson that it will never forget.

If our army fails to defend our nation, which is very very very unlikely, then the People of Pakistan will stand up and will give your "awesome" army a great treatment. I for once would be more than happy to arm myself and score some points against your army and there are 1000s, if not million, just like me.

Ohhh, i forgot to mention ISI . Well, let's just keep ISI out of this because our Army & our People will give you enough nightmares.

 

[Mercenary]

Vsdoc ​

Yeah your army, navy & af is coming. We Pakistani's are scared, we don't know what we should do.........

According to you guys, weren't Pakistan suppose to break up 6 months ago? LOL

Keeping dreaming dude.

I agree with the fact that your army is bigger than us, have more weapons, your af is also far better than ours and your navy is, without a doubt, bigger than us and have more advanced weapons.

But you know, there is one thing your country lacks. That is balls. You guys don't have the guts to come up to us and face us.

I am a Proud Pakistani but wtf are you babbling about?

Have you forgotten 1965 and 1971 and 1999 Wars?

Mumbai drama, staged by your own government, proved it. It doesn't get bigger than this, you didn't had the balls to attack us then, and, without a shadow of a doubt, your country won't be able to grow balls till atleast next 10-20 yrs. The only thing you did after Mumbai drama was to cry infront of the world and sent just two jets to "carry out surgical strikes" in Pakistan. Ha ha.

Can you explain to me how it was proved when the Pak Gov't acknowledged that militants based from Pak carried out the attack?

And the daily attacks occurring in Pak in a similar style to that of Mumbai points out to militants in Pak.

If, somehow your army does manage to defeat our army and march through Lahore & Islamabad, as per your claims, do you really think the People of Pakistan will sit down and let this happen?

If you had read the article. India has no intention in conquering Pakistan or capturing its major cities. It will fight a battle of attrition in Kashmir and Northern Punjab and fight a war of maneuver in Southern Punjab. Its objectives is to engage and destroy the Pakistani military.

Let me tell you one thing, our people don't fear death. Yes, we do have our differences, but when a country like India threatens to send us back to stone age, our people unite, we stand up and become one. We face the enemy together, and give a tight slap to any bastard who has the guts to challenge Pakistan. Please don't live in a dream that Balouchi will fight against Pakistan in an event of a war. We will all unite, Balouchis, Sindhis, Punjabi etc will all become one and will teach your country a lesson that it will never forget.

Indians are equally as patriotic about India as Pakistanis are about Pakistanis. Pakistanis don't have a leg up on anyone when it comes to loving their country.

If they loved their country, then why are so many immigrating out of Pakistan given the opportunity.

I just read a poll, 65% of all Pakistanis would leave Pakistan if given the opportunity.

If our army fails to defend our nation, which is very very very unlikely, then the People of Pakistan will stand up and will give your "awesome" army a great treatment. I for once would be more than happy to arm myself and score some points against your army and there are 1000s, if not million, just like me.

Ohhh, i forgot to mention ISI . Well, let's just keep ISI out of this because our Army & our People will give you enough nightmares.

Pakistan Army needs to increase its Armored Forces, Artillery, and to massively reinforce Army Reserve South if it stands a chance against India.

We also needs to set up train tracks so that in a war with India, China can quickly rush in supplies and they can quickly arrive by train to the front.

Being Patriotic is good...but when your answers wither down to utter nonsense which rivals the IQ of a 6 year old grade schooler...then you shouldn't be commenting.

Because you not only make yourself look bad...you make Pakistanis look bad.

Cheers

 

[karan.1970]

Well, I would have suggested you to do the same.

But the rules are different for Pakistanis and Indians.

So while we grow, you beg and copy.

So either you beg the Americans or the Chinese for a pair.

Or you get an outdated set, and copy-paste a Xerox to your nether regions ...... and proclaim to the world that you were the first to grow them.

Let me know which way you decide to "swing"

Cheers, Doc

Good to have you here doc.. Like your style...Someone had to make the mood a bit lighter here..

 

[karan.1970]

And by the way even if we copy we are good at it, at least we don’t beg others for technology claim to be ours. Do R&D on it for ages and still come out with nothing like a pathetic loser. So it is good that we copy and copy well so we can make it work to give you a heart &@$$ burn.

huh?... didnt i see another thread day dreaming about 80 super cobras from US. Mr Zardari continuously asking for drone technology.. Brotherhood with Turkey to get new technology innovations...billions of dollars in aid and Mr Zardari's statements every week asking for payments from the aid to be released....

 

[karan.1970]

There has never been and there is simply no parallels between India and Pakistan. This whole Rant and rhetoric and additional medical BS all over here is a big

The funny thing is that its been so long that you heard the term I ndo - P ak in the international circuits. The term has been long replaced by another term af-??? that has been banned in this forum

 

[Spitfighter]

I am a Proud Pakistani but wtf are you babbling about?

Have you forgotten 1965 and 1971 and 1999 Wars?

Can you explain to me how it was proved when the Pak Gov't acknowledged that militants based from Pak carried out the attack?

And the daily attacks occurring in Pak in a similar style to that of Mumbai points out to militants in Pak.

If you had read the article. India has no intention in conquering Pakistan or capturing its major cities. It will fight a battle of attrition in Kashmir and Northern Punjab and fight a war of maneuver in Southern Punjab. Its objectives is to engage and destroy the Pakistani military.

Indians are equally as patriotic about India as Pakistanis are about Pakistanis. Pakistanis don't have a leg up on anyone when it comes to loving their country.

If they loved their country, then why are so many immigrating out of Pakistan given the opportunity.

I just read a poll, 65% of all Pakistanis would leave Pakistan if given the opportunity.

Pakistan Army needs to increase its Armored Forces, Artillery, and to massively reinforce Army Reserve South if it stands a chance against India.

We also needs to set up train tracks so that in a war with India, China can quickly rush in supplies and they can quickly arrive by train to the front.

Being Patriotic is good...but when your answers wither down to utter nonsense which rivals the IQ of a 6 year old grade schooler...then you shouldn't be commenting.

Because you not only make yourself look bad...you make Pakistanis look bad.

Cheers

Best comment on this thread so far. Thank you.

 

[vsdoc]

I am a Proud Pakistani but wtf are you babbling about?

Have you forgotten 1965 and 1971 and 1999 Wars?




Can you explain to me how it was proved when the Pak Gov't acknowledged that militants based from Pak carried out the attack?

And the daily attacks occurring in Pak in a similar style to that of Mumbai points out to militants in Pak.



If you had read the article. India has no intention in conquering Pakistan or capturing its major cities. It will fight a battle of attrition in Kashmir and Northern Punjab and fight a war of maneuver in Southern Punjab. Its objectives is to engage and destroy the Pakistani military.



Indians are equally as patriotic about India as Pakistanis are about Pakistanis. Pakistanis don't have a leg up on anyone when it comes to loving their country.

If they loved their country, then why are so many immigrating out of Pakistan given the opportunity.

I just read a poll, 65% of all Pakistanis would leave Pakistan if given the opportunity.




Pakistan Army needs to increase its Armored Forces, Artillery, and to massively reinforce Army Reserve South if it stands a chance against India.

We also needs to set up train tracks so that in a war with India, China can quickly rush in supplies and they can quickly arrive by train to the front.

Being Patriotic is good...but when your answers wither down to utter nonsense which rivals the IQ of a 6 year old grade schooler...then you shouldn't be commenting.

Because you not only make yourself look bad...you make Pakistanis look bad.

Cheers

For whatever its worth, you have just joined the league of Fatman, Taimi (of old), Muse, Mastan, AllGreen, and AgnosticMuslim (in non-UN mode) in my book sir.

I look forward to reading more from you.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Condor]

For whatever its worth, you have just joined the league of Fatman, Taimi (of old), Muse, Mastan, AllGreen, and AgnosticMuslim (in non-UN mode) in my book sir.

I look forward to reading more from you.

Cheers, Doc

Sounds more like a Pro_India alliance to me. Are you sure Timai has switched sides?

 

[vsdoc]

Sounds more like a Pro_India alliance to me. Are you sure Timai has switched sides?

Are you insinuating that I like the posts of the guys mentioned cause they are pro-India?

Soch kar bolo bhai .... these are all heavyweights .... and going by your posts to date, your swinging way out of your weight class.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Aslan]

Brotherhood with Turkey to get new technology innovations

Now did you miss out to read on the articles posted by many over the relations between Turkey and Pakistan. Go search them and or ask the Turkish members on this forum that what it is all about and then try to post some common sense. As far as Zardari goes, well it is an open secret that what all of Pakistanis think of him. And let’s see that how long will he survive.

 

[Valiant_Soul]

I am a Proud Pakistani but wtf are you babbling about?

Have you forgotten 1965 and 1971 and 1999 Wars?

Can you explain to me how it was proved when the Pak Gov't acknowledged that militants based from Pak carried out the attack?

And the daily attacks occurring in Pak in a similar style to that of Mumbai points out to militants in Pak.

Good to know that there are people on the other side who do have knowledge and acknowledgement of truth.

If you had read the article. India has no intention in conquering Pakistan or capturing its major cities. It will fight a battle of attrition in Kashmir and Northern Punjab and fight a war of maneuver in Southern Punjab. Its objectives is to engage and destroy the Pakistani military.

Even that in a purely defensive mode. Even a little cat would attack you, if you corner it and leave it with no other option.

Being Patriotic is good...but when your answers wither down to utter nonsense which rivals the IQ of a 6 year old grade schooler...then you shouldn't be commenting.

People on either side hate each other, just for the sake of hating. Your post gives a feeling that it is after all not so difficult to like each other, only if we honestly follow the truth and try and understand each other's position.

 

[Condor]

Are you insinuating that I like the posts of the guys mentioned cause they are pro-India?

Soch kar bolo bhai .... these are all heavyweights .... and going by your posts to date, your swinging way out of your weight class.

Cheers, Doc

Cheers Doc,
Insinuating nothing here. Just an observation that refers to your likes which work in favor of India in one way or another without their being aware of it.
They are more Pro-West and now the West and India have have identical objectives, thats all.

Speaking of class - your posts are poor specimen of a first class Indian a respected Doctor so to speak of.

 

[ek_indian]

Insinuating nothing here. Just an observation that refers to your likes which work in favor of India in one way or another without their being aware of it.
They are more Pro-West and now the West and India have have identical objectives, thats all.

That's a serious allegation bro. They are very senior and respected members.

Speaking of class - your posts are poor specimen of a first class Indian a respected Doctor so to speak of.

Following you several post, may I request to post something which is relevant rather than making a shot at vsdoc.