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THE MYTH OF NORTH AFRICA AS ARAB,UNCOVERED

Yeah , but The first Humans did not cross the yemeni strait, but the sinai one :)

That's actually wrong.



See this peer-reviewed article named "The Evolution of Human Populations in Arabia", written by the Oxford professor Michael Petraglia, below.

http://www.academia.edu/471425/The_Evolution_of_Human_Populations_in_Arabia

He is professor of human evolution and prehistory at the University of Oxford’s department of archaeology. He is also the principle investigator for the Palaeodeserts Project, a five-year collaboration between the Saudi Commission for Tourism and Antiquities and University of Oxford which has involved more than 30 scholars from a dozen institutions and seven countries.

Other articles:

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/herit...ands-helped-early-man-make-leap-out-of-africa

http://www.livescience.com/47555-stone-artifacts-human-migration.html

Besides Sinai is basically Arabia man. Geographically, culturally and in terms of locals. Just next door too.

Green Arabia's key role in human evolution

By Sylvia Smith BBC News, Saudi Arabia



_85563456_gettyimages-153894834.jpg
Image copyrightAFP
Image captionWhilst the interior of the Arabian Peninsula is dry today, it was once lush and green
Scientists have been illuminating the vital role played by the Arabian Peninsula in humankind's exodus from Africa. Far from being a desert, the region was once covered by lush vegetation and criss-crossed by rivers, providing rich hunting grounds for our ancestors.

As the sun rises over a vast sand sea in the Arabian Peninsula its first rays illuminate a number of hand axes scattered over the surface of the arid desert.

Nearby, a team of international experts start their day's work picking up and examining remains that are putting a new gloss on the history of human occupation in the area and challenging previously-held theories.

These sites are of global importance... they are the signatures of modern humans moving out of Africa
Ali Ibrahim Al Ghabban, Saudi Commission on Tourism and Natural Heritage

For the first time, the technical expertise of scientists in varied disciplines including palaeontology, geochronology and mapping is being combined to take a holistic look at the role played by Saudi Arabia in the African exodus.

Recent finds are overturning long-held theories by moving it from the periphery right to the centre.

According to Prince Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, the first Arab to go into space and currently head of the Saudi Commission for Tourism and National Heritage, the multidisciplinary team have uncovered evidence that our human ancestors' first steps out of Africa were made 50,000 years earlier than was commonly believed.

"The Arabian Peninsula has witnessed dramatic changes in climate," he says.

"In the middle Pleistocene this encouraged early man to make for the then-green peninsula as his destination."

_85493291_85493290.jpg
Image copyrightCRASSARD ET AL. 2013
Image captionScientists have mapped the ancient river systems that criss-crossed what is now desert
Wet environment
New research by the international team of experts shows that the Peninsula had human settlements for long periods of time and was not merely a transit point, as was previously thought.

The teams have uncovered several settled periods of wet weather with numerous shifts in environments over the last million years.

One advantage of marrying diverse disciplines under one umbrella is that the various strands can be woven in to a comprehensive common story about the mutating Arabian environment and human history.

What appear to be large dried-up water courses when seen from the ground become major palaeo-rivers viewed from space.

Michael Petraglia, who heads the group and is professor of human evolution and prehistory at the School of Archaeology, Oxford University, says the multidisciplinary approach is paying off.

"Innovative space shuttle technology has allowed the mapping of over 10,000 lakes across Arabia including the now barren Nafud desert," he says.

"This finding links directly with the discovery of the remains of elephants, hippos, crocodile and molluscs at a couple of our sites in the Kingdom."

_85564503_85493282.jpg
Image copyrightRICHARD DUEBEL
Image captionProf Michael Petraglia is uncovering a rich history of settlement by early modern humans
Exit plan
Indications are that the earliest lakes had fresh, potable water and were in some cases interconnected. The 50-strong team now believe that there were real routes for animals and humans to follow.

While the main routes into Arabia were from the Horn of Africa into south-west Arabia, the other was across the Sinai. From those two points it is believed that humans were following rivers into the interior.

Ali Ibrahim Al Ghabban, deputy director of the Saudi Commission on Tourism and National Heritage says that with no human skeletal remains in Arabia from the time ranges in question, human history depends on other evidence.

_85493287_85493286.jpg
Image copyrightRICHARD DUEBEL
"[It is assessed] on the basis of similarities in stone technology between finds in Arabia and Africa," he says.

"It is reasonable to suppose that anatomically modern humans have been present in Arabia for at least 125,000 years, and possibly a little longer."

Most of the early sites consist of little more than stone tool scatters, and Prof Petraglia's team have unearthed hundreds of these implements fashioned for activities associated with hunting such as scraping skins.

This is a significant stage in human evolution with our forebears showing the ability to think ahead.

"It means that at this stage we are able to kill our prey more easily," says Prof Petraglia. "Working stone in this way indicates forethought and planning. It is also what we see in East Africa."

Among the group of experts are rock art specialists whose work, according to Ali Ibrahim Ghabban may well lead to yet more interesting results.

Rock art sites occur in central Saudi Arabia at the Jubbah palaeolake in the Hail region, where there is excellent evidence for Middle Palaeolithic sites along lake shores.

"These sites are of global importance," Ghabban says.

"They are the signatures of modern humans moving out of Africa."

Other field expeditions are looking into world-rated rock art sites in Jubbah, Shuwaymis, and Nejran, with finds examined in multiple laboratory studies.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34170798
Even if we assume that the Sinai route was the correct one (incorrect) they would have reached Arabia (which is basically next door) sooner than Tunisia almost 2000 km away.



As for the Iranian barking, ignore it guys.

The haplogroup J that both haplgroup J1 and J2 descends from originates in the Arab world more precisely Arabia. Most findings agree with this theory. So no, it was the other way around as with everything else. Not to say that Iran was a wasteland before people from Arabia ventured into it to inhabit it alongside other areas of the Middle East ages ago.

And no matter how much you bark, all genetic tests, as I have also posted and as everyone can google, agrees with the fact that there are only 2 dominating haplogroups in the Arab world (J and E) which is not the case in Iran that is much more mixed which is not strange given all the instances of conquest of Iran and its location. You can cry all you want.
 
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That's actually wrong.



See this peer-reviewed article named "The Evolution of Human Populations in Arabia", written by the Oxford professor Michael Petraglia, below.

http://www.academia.edu/471425/The_Evolution_of_Human_Populations_in_Arabia

He is professor of human evolution and prehistory at the University of Oxford’s department of archaeology. He is also the principle investigator for the Palaeodeserts Project, a five-year collaboration between the Saudi Commission for Tourism and Antiquities and University of Oxford which has involved more than 30 scholars from a dozen institutions and seven countries.

Other articles:

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/herit...ands-helped-early-man-make-leap-out-of-africa

http://www.livescience.com/47555-stone-artifacts-human-migration.html

Besides Sinai is basically Arabia man. Geographically, culturally and in terms of locals. Just next door too.

Green Arabia's key role in human evolution

By Sylvia Smith BBC News, Saudi Arabia



_85563456_gettyimages-153894834.jpg
Image copyrightAFP
Image captionWhilst the interior of the Arabian Peninsula is dry today, it was once lush and green
Scientists have been illuminating the vital role played by the Arabian Peninsula in humankind's exodus from Africa. Far from being a desert, the region was once covered by lush vegetation and criss-crossed by rivers, providing rich hunting grounds for our ancestors.

As the sun rises over a vast sand sea in the Arabian Peninsula its first rays illuminate a number of hand axes scattered over the surface of the arid desert.

Nearby, a team of international experts start their day's work picking up and examining remains that are putting a new gloss on the history of human occupation in the area and challenging previously-held theories.

These sites are of global importance... they are the signatures of modern humans moving out of Africa
Ali Ibrahim Al Ghabban, Saudi Commission on Tourism and Natural Heritage

For the first time, the technical expertise of scientists in varied disciplines including palaeontology, geochronology and mapping is being combined to take a holistic look at the role played by Saudi Arabia in the African exodus.

Recent finds are overturning long-held theories by moving it from the periphery right to the centre.

According to Prince Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, the first Arab to go into space and currently head of the Saudi Commission for Tourism and National Heritage, the multidisciplinary team have uncovered evidence that our human ancestors' first steps out of Africa were made 50,000 years earlier than was commonly believed.

"The Arabian Peninsula has witnessed dramatic changes in climate," he says.

"In the middle Pleistocene this encouraged early man to make for the then-green peninsula as his destination."

_85493291_85493290.jpg
Image copyrightCRASSARD ET AL. 2013
Image captionScientists have mapped the ancient river systems that criss-crossed what is now desert
Wet environment
New research by the international team of experts shows that the Peninsula had human settlements for long periods of time and was not merely a transit point, as was previously thought.

The teams have uncovered several settled periods of wet weather with numerous shifts in environments over the last million years.

One advantage of marrying diverse disciplines under one umbrella is that the various strands can be woven in to a comprehensive common story about the mutating Arabian environment and human history.

What appear to be large dried-up water courses when seen from the ground become major palaeo-rivers viewed from space.

Michael Petraglia, who heads the group and is professor of human evolution and prehistory at the School of Archaeology, Oxford University, says the multidisciplinary approach is paying off.

"Innovative space shuttle technology has allowed the mapping of over 10,000 lakes across Arabia including the now barren Nafud desert," he says.

"This finding links directly with the discovery of the remains of elephants, hippos, crocodile and molluscs at a couple of our sites in the Kingdom."

_85564503_85493282.jpg
Image copyrightRICHARD DUEBEL
Image captionProf Michael Petraglia is uncovering a rich history of settlement by early modern humans
Exit plan
Indications are that the earliest lakes had fresh, potable water and were in some cases interconnected. The 50-strong team now believe that there were real routes for animals and humans to follow.

While the main routes into Arabia were from the Horn of Africa into south-west Arabia, the other was across the Sinai. From those two points it is believed that humans were following rivers into the interior.

Ali Ibrahim Al Ghabban, deputy director of the Saudi Commission on Tourism and National Heritage says that with no human skeletal remains in Arabia from the time ranges in question, human history depends on other evidence.

_85493287_85493286.jpg
Image copyrightRICHARD DUEBEL
"[It is assessed] on the basis of similarities in stone technology between finds in Arabia and Africa," he says.

"It is reasonable to suppose that anatomically modern humans have been present in Arabia for at least 125,000 years, and possibly a little longer."

Most of the early sites consist of little more than stone tool scatters, and Prof Petraglia's team have unearthed hundreds of these implements fashioned for activities associated with hunting such as scraping skins.

This is a significant stage in human evolution with our forebears showing the ability to think ahead.

"It means that at this stage we are able to kill our prey more easily," says Prof Petraglia. "Working stone in this way indicates forethought and planning. It is also what we see in East Africa."

Among the group of experts are rock art specialists whose work, according to Ali Ibrahim Ghabban may well lead to yet more interesting results.

Rock art sites occur in central Saudi Arabia at the Jubbah palaeolake in the Hail region, where there is excellent evidence for Middle Palaeolithic sites along lake shores.

"These sites are of global importance," Ghabban says.

"They are the signatures of modern humans moving out of Africa."

Other field expeditions are looking into world-rated rock art sites in Jubbah, Shuwaymis, and Nejran, with finds examined in multiple laboratory studies.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34170798
Even if we assume that the Sinai route was the correct one (incorrect) they would have reached Arabia (which is basically next door) sooner than Tunisia almost 2000 km away.


WellWell Well look http://www.aggsbach.de/2015/02/the-forgotten-paleolithic-heritage-of-tunisia/

"Much work has been conducted in the dating of spring sediments in the Oases of the Western Desert in Egypt. The episodes of higher humidity and consecutive lake expansion and regression suggest the presence of habitable landscapes from around 400,000 years ago until after 100,000 years ago, corresponding to fluctuating global climates between OIS 11-OIS 3."
 
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@EgyptianAmerican @Chinese-Dragon @The SC

I am not sure if you have encountered Pan-Africans (as in Black nationalists - mostly African Americans) on forums or social media but a minority of them have a tendency to claim that all the civilizations of the Arab world (in particular) Middle East were founded by Black people.

Not only that but that Arab people were Black Africans until very recently when we supposedly started to mix with Persians and Turks (forgetting that Turkish presence in the Arab world is barely 1 millennia old), LOL.

Anyway this recent finding that I talked about, the DNA tests done on those earliest Neolithic mummies in Southern Levant, shattered that dream once and for all as those Neolithic mummies were almost 15.000 years old (!) and thus predated all known civilizations.

That recent DNA study proved that modern-day Saudi Arabians, Palestinians, Jordanians and Egyptians have the largest ancestral claim on the Neolithic civilizations that first appeared in Southern Levant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

A culture that existed from 12.5000 BC to 9.500 BC whose people are known to have built the first Neolithic settlements on the planet as well as made the first attempts at agriculture, organized included. It was also arguably the first sedentary culture of this size in the world as well.

Here are the DNA results from this year (2016)

https://plot.ly/~PortalAntropologiczny9cfa/1.embed?share_key=za9Lb3y1UX6nJRG9v4EXOL

Here is the entire report:

http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/06/16/059311.full.pdf

It's quite cool that Saudi Arabians (in particular as they scored the highest percentage, one sample 60.38%!), Palestinians, Jordanians, "Israeli" Bedouins and Egyptians (afterwards other Arabs in the Near East and other MENA people) show the strongest genetic affinity to the ancient Natufian culture (12.500 BC - 9.500 BC) that was not only the first settled Neolithic civilization/community in the world but the first culture and people who introduced farming and built the first known settlements! More so knowing that the Natufians did not hail from the outside whether nearby Europe or Africa! They were indigenous.

And surprise surprise, Arabs are also indigenous to the Arab world. Not Black Africans from Sub-Saharan Africa, not nomadic Turks from the steppes of Central Asia nor fake "Aryans" from Iran.

Yet we have outsiders here belittling our history. Can you imagine the insanity for a second?

I say let the anti-Arabs and Arab-obsessed users here (they know who they are) cry all the way to bed. Nobody is going to steal our ancient history or change the ground realities, less so when we have science nowadays to help us establish the truth.

In this thread I learned that Hijazi Arabs are not "real Arabs" from some Pakistani based in the UK and dare I bet that we will see similar statements form foreigners teaching us about our own history. Talk about comedy on a high level. Those tools do not have even 10% of the knowledge I have on this field. I have literally spent years reading about our regions history on all fronts. It's one of my greatest hobbies. I am even a moderator on a DNA project that deals with Arab DNA where I have access to data from across the entire Arab world from Arab volunteers (private individuals).
Check some old threads on Indus Valley Civiliztion, Ancient civilizations and so on there is much material there..
Africa had some old civilizations too but nothing in common with the fertile crescent civilization..
 
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Ignore the afro-centrists, they are crazy.
I actually have had quite a few conversations with that bunch. They are quite... Colorful.
Well, truth be told we share this angle as well. You have Afro's doing everything to say they built Ancient Egypt and all you guy's are intruders. We have Indian's grabbing their grubby hands on our heritage and claming as theirs exactly the way Afro's do it to you.

I have read extensively on President Nasser and Egyptian Army performance against Israel. I rate it very good but you guys could not be expected to defeat a shadow of a superpower - Israel !
 
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WellWell Well look http://www.aggsbach.de/2015/02/the-forgotten-paleolithic-heritage-of-tunisia/

"Much work has been conducted in the dating of spring sediments in the Oases of the Western Desert in Egypt. The episodes of higher humidity and consecutive lake expansion and regression suggest the presence of habitable landscapes from around 400,000 years ago until after 100,000 years ago, corresponding to fluctuating global climates between OIS 11-OIS 3."

Well that link does not dispute what I wrote, does it? It just shows that Tunisia had a different climate compared to today which is the case all across the Arab world. Less than 15.000 years ago, some say even 8.000 years ago, much of Arabia was home to one of the largest river systems in the world and the third biggest lake. See post 61.

In any case there is a consensus that the first migration out of Africa occurred through the nearby Bab el-Mandeb Strait (also the most logical solution if you look at simple geography) and that afterwards there was an migration from Sinai into neighboring Arabia and Southern Levant and from there on elsewhere.

Not long after that Northwestern Africa (Tunisia etc.) became inhabited.

Check some old threads on Indus Valley Civiliztion, Ancient civilizations and so on there is much material there..
Africa had some old civilizations too but nothing in common with the fertile crescent civilization..

Definitely but when we speak about Africa we talk about Sub-Saharan Africa exclusively here, right? Because if not I disagree. Case in point North Africa and Horn of Africa.
 
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Well that link does not dispute what I wrote, does it? It just shows that Tunisia had a different climate compared to today which is the case all across the Arab world. Less than 15.000 years ago, some say even 8.000 years ago, much of Arabia was home to one of the largest river systems in the world and the third biggest lake. See post 61.

In any case there is a consensus that the first migration out of Africa occurred through the nearby Bab el-Mandeb Strait (also the most logical solution if you look at simple geography) and that afterwards there was an migration from Sinai into neighboring Arabia and Southern Levant and from there on elsewhere.

Not long after that Northwestern Africa (Tunisia etc.) became inhabited.

:)

http://artdaily.com/news/90176/Tuni...researchers-prove-100-000-year-human-presence
 
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Don't even bother trying to derail the thread, you are ignored. I wouldn't be surprised if you turned this thread into something else other than what it's about, Which is the genetic make up of North Africans.
And if you know anything about genetics then you wouldn't say that J1 and J2 are the same haplogroup. They have the same Ancestor but they aren't the same and it's stupid to claim that. Which shows your lack of understanding in regards to genetics. And the oldest known J2a samples at present were identified in remains from the Hotu Cave in northern Iran.

Iranians are mixed, no doubt about it and i haven't claimed otherwise. But don't talk about things you have no idea about, there is an inverse relationship of J2a and R1a in Iranian-speaking groups, with an excess of the latter among the eastern Iranian peoples, and of the former among the Persians. But there is no surprise that you fail to know that, as you are the copy-paster and always edit your posts after you post on these boards.

But the most mixed people genetically in the middle east is without a doubt, Arabs. Whether you want to admit that or not, i don't care but this thread even shows that as well. Check the map of the J1 you posted yourself to see how mixed you are.
Since you are Saudi, we can use the same source you use.
Saudi Arabia 14% J-M172 (J2a) Abu-Amero 2009
Iran 3.2% J-M267 (J1) El-Sibai 2009
So you have more of J2a in you than we have J1 according to your own Source. Fact.

But compared to you, i actually don't let myself be blinded by Chauvinism. I try and keep objective.

@Ceylal anyway, good find

Not gonna get into the Indus Valley Civilazation discussion, even though it needs to be reviewed, the academic world is poorly motivated to rewrite history books and that's why it hasn't been looked into properly.
Wasn't northern Iran part of the fertile crescent civilizations, Sumer Babylon and others?
 
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Fine, they have supposedly found 100.000 year old human presence in modern-day Tunisia but you have older findings in Eastern Africa, Egypt and Arabia.

Tunisia having an old human presence does not exclude others from having older or younger findings.

It seems that we are talking past each other.

Look :)
Morroco has even more :)
and ofc I'm not saying that north africa was the first, Eastern Africa was. but for Arabia, i think it was after north africa. since the oldest is in morroco 160k years ago while arabia 125k years ago

but if morroco got ones at 160k then tunisia as a passageway could be even more


Archaelogists said on Thursday that they have unearthed Stone Age tools which show our human ancestors lived in southern Tunisia nearly 100,000 years ago, long before the species is believed to have migrated to Europe.

The discovery, after 18 months of digging near Tozeur, in south-western Tunisia, could help explain the spread of Homo sapiens from eastern Africa which happened around 65,000 years ago, the team of Tunisian and British scientists said.

The team had identified a "promising" site of around 6,000sq metres (65,000sq ft), said researcher Nabil Guesmi. The artefacts so far unearthed are the oldest evidence of human activity ever discovered in Tunisia, and include flint tools similar to those which early humans in other areas used for hunting.

The researchers, from Tunisia's National Heritage Institute (INP) and the University of Oxford, also found tools from the Middle Stone Age that attest to the presence of Homo sapiens, said Guesmi. "We have found bones that indicate the presence of savannah animals - rhinoceros, zebras - and therefore fresh water," he said.

Guesmi said a technique called thermoluminescence had shown that some of the tools were as old as 92,000 years. The oldest remains of what could be called modern human ancestors were uncovered in Temara, in north-west Morocco, and are thought to date back 160,000 years.

The INP says the new site could yield evidence of early human "passageways", or migration routes, through the region. "We can imagine going further, because the site is relatively large," said Guesmi.
 
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Look :)
Morroco has even more :)
and ofc I'm not say that north africa was the first, Eastern Africa was. but for Arabia, i think it was after north africa. since the oldest in in morroco 160k yeard ago while arabia 125k years ago


Archaelogists said on Thursday that they have unearthed Stone Age tools which show our human ancestors lived in southern Tunisia nearly 100,000 years ago, long before the species is believed to have migrated to Europe.

The discovery, after 18 months of digging near Tozeur, in south-western Tunisia, could help explain the spread of Homo sapiens from eastern Africa which happened around 65,000 years ago, the team of Tunisian and British scientists said.

The team had identified a "promising" site of around 6,000sq metres (65,000sq ft), said researcher Nabil Guesmi. The artefacts so far unearthed are the oldest evidence of human activity ever discovered in Tunisia, and include flint tools similar to those which early humans in other areas used for hunting.

The researchers, from Tunisia's National Heritage Institute (INP) and the University of Oxford, also found tools from the Middle Stone Age that attest to the presence of Homo sapiens, said Guesmi. "We have found bones that indicate the presence of savannah animals - rhinoceros, zebras - and therefore fresh water," he said.

Guesmi said a technique called thermoluminescence had shown that some of the tools were as old as 92,000 years. The oldest remains of what could be called modern human ancestors were uncovered in Temara, in north-west Morocco, and are thought to date back 160,000 years.

The INP says the new site could yield evidence of early human "passageways", or migration routes, through the region. "We can imagine going further, because the site is relatively large," said Guesmi.

:)

Oldest humans in Asia may have lived in the Arabian Peninsula
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Al Arabiya News Channel’s Eid al-Yahya and In the Arab’s footsteps program’s crew visited the Safakah settlement and studied the site. (Al Arabiya)​

Staff writer, AlArabiya.net

Saturday, 3 December 2016

The oldest human presence in Asia dates back to the Arabian Peninsula, specifically to the settlement of Safakah located southeast of the town of Dawadmi, 27 kilometers northwest of the Saudi capital Riyadh.

This human settlement is said to be 300,000 years old dating back to the Acholi age. Scrapers and chippers were found as a testimony to the life of the ancient residents, who were living on a diet based on grains, fruits and hunting.

Al Arabiya News Channel’s Eid al-Yahya and In the Arab’s footsteps program’s crew visited the Safakah settlement and studied the site. The settlement was based on a location that usually receives annual rain, making it a water-rich area.

Because of the rain and the water, the place became very suitable for humans to live in due to the ability to grow their own food.

Despite the climatic and demographic changes, which deeply affected the area, one could clearly see the remains of the human settlement as witnessed by history. The stones that were used in construction of old rooms that were covered by tree leaves, as well as the rocks used by the residents as tools for hunting and war.

The archeological heritage of Safakah remains unknown till this day. Nevertheless, 10,000 archeological artifacts and pieces were found in the region and are currently being studied for further information.

*This article also appears on AlArabiya.net.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fe...may-have-lived-in-the-Arabian-Peninsula-.html


 
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Human presence and human civilization are two different things though..Everyone agrees that humans stemmed from Africa, so in their migration for food or land, they must have followed many routes and ended up/appeared in different places on the African continent or nearby, So if 100 000 years old human remains were discovered in Tunisia, that only means that humans existed in Africa before that, which is already a known fact..
 
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:)

Oldest humans in Asia may have lived in the Arabian Peninsula
f5a8e650-9bdd-4a50-9d38-9735630d39d0_16x9_788x442.jpg

Al Arabiya News Channel’s Eid al-Yahya and In the Arab’s footsteps program’s crew visited the Safakah settlement and studied the site. (Al Arabiya)​

Staff writer, AlArabiya.net

Saturday, 3 December 2016

The oldest human presence in Asia dates back to the Arabian Peninsula, specifically to the settlement of Safakah located southeast of the town of Dawadmi, 27 kilometers northwest of the Saudi capital Riyadh.

This human settlement is said to be 300,000 years old dating back to the Acholi age. Scrapers and chippers were found as a testimony to the life of the ancient residents, who were living on a diet based on grains, fruits and hunting.

Al Arabiya News Channel’s Eid al-Yahya and In the Arab’s footsteps program’s crew visited the Safakah settlement and studied the site. The settlement was based on a location that usually receives annual rain, making it a water-rich area.

Because of the rain and the water, the place became very suitable for humans to live in due to the ability to grow their own food.

Despite the climatic and demographic changes, which deeply affected the area, one could clearly see the remains of the human settlement as witnessed by history. The stones that were used in construction of old rooms that were covered by tree leaves, as well as the rocks used by the residents as tools for hunting and war.

The archeological heritage of Safakah remains unknown till this day. Nevertheless, 10,000 archeological artifacts and pieces were found in the region and are currently being studied for further information.

*This article also appears on AlArabiya.net.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fe...may-have-lived-in-the-Arabian-Peninsula-.html



One thing are you speaking who was first as a Homo sapiens or any other proto-humans (nehendertals and such...)? Since Homo sapiens ( me and you) appeared around 200 000 years ago
 
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Yes. Tutankhamun spoke full on A-rabic.

Irony is, if they somehow prove that he and his forefathers indeed spoke Arabic, then origin of Arabs may shift to North east Africa, not the classical middle East.

Hurahh brother !

IVC is such a bitch for world historians they wish they never discovered. The problem with IVC is that it is the world most ancient yet discovered last only by accident when Brits were laying rail tracks near Harrapa. By that time world history was already written with Babylon and Egypt being recognised and with British royalty drawing their bloodline with Pharaohs of Egypt. Who knew that grandaddy of all was lying 10 feet underground in the Indus basin. That's why you see all hush hush and brush under the carpet attitude when it comes to IVC. No one is willing to rewrite world history. History itself is the concubine in the hands who wrote it.
 
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Irony is, if they somehow prove that he and his forefathers indeed spoke Arabic, then origin of Arabs may shift to North east Africa, not the classical middle East.



IVC is such a bitch for world historians they wish they never discovered. The problem with IVC is that it is the world most ancient yet discovered last only by accident when Brits were laying rail tracks near Harrapa. By that time world history was already written with Babylon and Egypt being recognised and with British royalty drawing their bloodline with Pharaohs of Egypt. Who knew that grandaddy of all was lying 10 feet underground in the Indus basin. That's why you see all hush hush and brush under the carpet attitude when it comes to IVC. No one is willing to rewrite world history. History itself is the concubine in the hands who wrote it.

Arabic did not exist in pharaons times....
 
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Let's cut the bullshits here:


J2 dna map:

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J1:

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G:

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R1:

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E1b1b:

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E1b1a:

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