The myth of a Sunni-Shia war

[EgyptianAmerican]

Countries like Turkey and Pakistan need to stay way clear of it.

I agree unfortunately ambitious people from both countries want to put their names in the history books and leave a legacy as being the person to reconcile Arabs and Persian when the only thing that happens is that they get caught in the crossfire. The only people who can make Arabs and Persians put their anger away is Arabs and Persians.

 

[Attila the Hun]

I agree unfortunately ambitious people from both countries want to put their names in the history books and leave a legacy as being the person to reconcile Arabs and Persian when the only thing that happens is that they get caught in the crossfire. The only people who can make Arabs and Persians put their anger away is Arabs and Persians.

They really do need to get along .
Rivalry is a good thing, i suppose, they take the biscuit though

 

[war&peace]

Whatever historical differences are not even our right to comment on. What is our right to comment on, condemn and stop by law if necessary; are those that encourage such comments and those that comment back.

One thing I don't understand is how does this sectarian BS helps us in the real life? As a Muslim, we have to believe in one God, to pray, pay zakat, etc... so just follow those basics..Why to make our lives complicated by indulging into discussion who was right or wrong...as it is not the main part of any of the teachings of the Islam. So just follow main commands, be kind, stand for the right cause and spend your life like a good Muslim.
Let Allah decide on the day of Judgement between those noblest of the noble people. Just be united and enjoy life and solve mathematical puzzles

 

[mdcp]

Its irani regime after Shah Iran caused mayhem in Muslim World.

We need to respect each other and there should be mutual respect and protocol should be followed in order to avoid bloodshed of innocent people

 

[Danish saleem]

Islam unite People not divide, and few extremist thinks that calling each other Kafir is Islam, and they are servants of Islam.

 

[NHUDA]

but still we can't just claim its merely a Persian Arab Conflict , there are some Serious disputes and allegations put by the both Parties .. which is in fact the cause of Violence to begin with ..
The history go from the Possible Corruption of Uthman R.A to the Allegation on Ali R.A who was unable to provide Justice for Uthman's R.A murder .. and lets not forget the Sexual Harassment accusations on Umar ibn Khattab by some sects of Shia's .

Please atleast make a Full statement or do not make it at all ... thr was never an accusation on Hazrat Usman RA of corruption, but (according to some U know who) there were some Ameer Posted by him involved in corruption (without the knowledge and involment of hazrat Usman RA) .. !!

And also MaazAllah I never EVER heard such a horrendous accusation against Hazrat Umar RA ! (not even from Shias) from where & which source you are posting this ! Astagfirullah ! think before you write something !

As for the OP ..... yes indeed it is more than what it seems .... it is not about Sectarian Rift .. but it is Exploitation of this difference for Political & economical Gain ... Both KSA & IRAN are threat to each other economically, as well as politically ... they sphere of influence overlap eachother ... and it is just a little hotter cold war between the two same like USSR & USA ....

And although the centuries old Persian vs Arab also come into play but it is not THAT big of a contributor as the above mentioned reason.

However exploitation of the Sectarian difference has bring further harm ... for Example in Pakistan ... they do not see the bigger picture and i have literally seen the Sectarian hatered among the two (a little detail read of news paper can explain that how deep those differences have become) ... and that INDEED IS purely a SECTARIAN CONFLICT !

one shouldn't deny that either !

 

[Aramagedon]

I didn't want to enter such debates as it may benefit wahhabis and zionists.

I put a link to show zionist wahhabis lies...

http://english.khamenei.ir/news/3905/Ayatollah-Khamenei-s-fatwa-Insulting-the-Mother-of-the-Faithful


We Shiite Muslim believe the only true way of Islam is "Prophet Muhammad (Sawas), Quran and his Household (PBUT) as prophet (Sawas) has said it for so many times during his life and it's mentioned in some verses of Quran.

In addition we highly respect Sahabas and Prophet's wives (PBUT). Some of Sahabas like Abuzar, Malik alashtar, Meghdad, Salman (PBUT) and..., and some of his wives like Hazrat Khadijah (PBUH) (Um al Momenin) and Hazrat Ume Salamah (PBUH) are very dear for us.

https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/who-are-ahlul-bayt-part-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_of_Wilayah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahl_al-Bayt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahl_al-Kisa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pond_of_Khumm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_two_weighty_things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Fatima_tablet

Ayat al Mavaddat toward prophets relatives (PBUT): http://www.ziyaraat.net/browquranbookmark.asp?Ahora=Ayat-e-Mawaddat

MUBAHALA: https://www.al-islam.org/gallery/kids/Books/istories/3.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourteen_Infallibles

http://english.khamenei.ir/news/3412/Arab-vs-Non-Arab-conflicts-are-set-up-by-the-arrogant-front-to

May God guide us to the best way.

 

[Serpentine]

There is no Shia-Sunni war, but there is a Shia/Wahhabi-Salafi war. When bunch of nutjobs are spread in region like cancer and hell bent on eradicating you from planet, there will be war, and violence. Just today, 70 Shia pilgrims were killed in Iraq by a suicide bomber. Their crime? Being Shia pilgrims. That's it. Anyone trying to say this is only an Arab/Persian war is out of touch with reality. Most of the victims of this violence are Arabs. In Iraq, there has been thousands of suicide bombings killing thousands of Shias, and they were Arabs. Same as Pakistan (non-Persian), Lebanon, Kuwait.

You have an ideology that is spread like cancer and kills anyone who gets in its way. Don't agree? Look at TTP attacks inside Pakistan, ordinary Sunni civilians are biggest victims of this terror group because they disapprove of this vile ideology, at least most of them do.

 

[Falgrine]

Christians are trying to bury the past and coming together

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...s-500th-anniversary-of-protestant-reformation

and we Muslims cannot come together even after 1400 years.

Sunni and Shia are the two branches of the same trunk. We are united on Tawheed, finality of Prophet hood, authenticity and preservation of Quran, belief in angels, akhira, Jannat, Jehenim. And this is what makes all of us Muslims. Let us look beyond our little differences and embrace each other as brothers and sisters in faith.

Where is the mercy and magnanimity that we should be having. Should not follow our Prophet SAWW who was the most merciful and magnanimous of all human beings.

May Allah Almighty, the fashioner of the heaven and earth, bring all of us faithfuls together.

 

[Divergent]

Exactly, it is a arab persian power struggle that the idiots(like many on this forum) who follows their brainwashing believe as a Shia Sunni issue

I'll give you this.

Iraq never suffered from suicide bomber attacks in its history till after the invasion. Go figure.

 

[untitled]

Give it whatever name you like but the fact of the matter is this Arab-Persian hostility is taking its toll on the Muslim world at large. The sane approach will be for both sides is brush under the carpet their differences on for now and try to get rid of the threats presented by parties who don't wish either these two groups well. Once they are gone they can always have their WWI and WWII style wars in the future. No matter who wins then (Arabs or Persians) atleast there wont be a third benefactor.

 

[war&peace]

I didn't want to enter such debates as it may benefit wahhabis and zionists.

I put a link to show zionist wahhabis lies...

http://english.khamenei.ir/news/3905/Ayatollah-Khamenei-s-fatwa-Insulting-the-Mother-of-the-Faithful


We Shiite Muslim believe the only true way of Islam is "Prophet Muhammad (Sawas), Quran and his Household (PBUT) as prophet (Sawas) has said it for so many times during his life and it's mentioned in some verses of Quran.

In addition we highly respect Sahabas and Prophet's wives (PBUT). Some of Sahabas like Abuzar, Malik alashtar, Meghdad, Salman (PBUT) and..., and some of his wives like Hazrat Khadijah (PBUH) (Um al Momenin) and Hazrat Ume Salamah (PBUH) are very dear for us.

https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/who-are-ahlul-bayt-part-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_of_Wilayah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahl_al-Bayt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahl_al-Kisa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pond_of_Khumm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_two_weighty_things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Fatima_tablet

Ayat al Mavaddat toward prophets relatives (PBUT): http://www.ziyaraat.net/browquranbookmark.asp?Ahora=Ayat-e-Mawaddat

MUBAHALA: https://www.al-islam.org/gallery/kids/Books/istories/3.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourteen_Infallibles

http://english.khamenei.ir/news/3412/Arab-vs-Non-Arab-conflicts-are-set-up-by-the-arrogant-front-to

May God guide us to the best way.

To establish peace and tranquility in the region, sir we have to take all of the sects onboard, be it shia, sunni, wahabi, salafi......you can''t start this with alienating one or pointing fingers..
The moment you single out any one of them, basically you are playing the sectarian game... On one is the angle..now if someone comes from the other side and he pulls up some shia-hindu relations....because man it is internet and I bet you get plenty when you search google. So please do not be one of those miscreants and trouble-makers who are always the first to derail any attempt of reconciliation.

And hypocritical is the way after sharing all this true-fake threads, you wrote "May God guide us to the best way"
That's really sad and pathetic. The basic problem for sectarianism is that each sect thinks that it is the best way and all of the others are wrong and going to hell..and yon ca't deny since I l know all of them.
The key to reconciliation is to curb your desire to show your pseudo-rightiousness publicly over the others and insinuate them. And this goes true for everyone and only then we can have a really peaceful society and region.

I hope you understand and think about it will a cool mind instead taking as a bruise to your ego.

Take care,
What do you guys say @GreenFalcon @Doordie @Morse_Code @risingsinga

 

[Aramagedon]

To establish peace and tranquility in the region, sir we have to take all of the sects onboard, be it shia, sunni, wahabi, salafi......you can''t start this with alienating one or pointing fingers..
The moment to single out any one of them, basically you are playing the sectarian game... On one is the angle..now if someone comes from the other side and he pulls up some shia-hindu relations....because man it is internet and I bet you get plenty when you search google. So please do not be one of those miscreants and trouble-makers who are always the first to derail any attempt of reconciliation.

And hypocritical is the way after sharing all this true-fake threads, you wrote "May God guide us to the best way"
That's really sad and pathetic. The basic problem for sectarianism is that each sect thinks that it is the best way and all of the others are wrong and going to hell..and yon ca't deny since I l know all of them.
The key to reconciliation is to curb your desire to show your pseudo-rightiousness publicly over the others and insinuate them. And this goes true for everyone and only then we can have a really peaceful society and region.

I hope you understand and think about it will a cool mind instead taking as a bruise to your ego.

Take care,
What do you guys say @GreenFalcon @Doordie @Morse_Code @risingsinga

Long blas bro.

I didn't read all. The links that I put are for showing verity of Shia Islam. Don't take them political and sectarian and bla bla.... I didn't say anyone will go hell or whatever you've written in your long post. chill out dude.

 

[war&peace]

Long blas bro.

I didn't read all. The links that I put are for showing verity of Shia Islam. Don't take them political and sectarian and bla bla.... I didn't say anyone will go hell or whatever you've written in your long post. chill out dude.

So better read it complete with cool mind and if you dont get it first time read it again and if you want to discuss, you can ask me.

 

[Major d1]

I wanna ask a question, What is sunni , what is shia? We are muslim at first . Rasul (saw) said, if you get any problem turn back to Quran and Hadit . Is their any individual ayat or hadit about Sunni or shia In quran or Hadit?? No.

This division has been created my Some man. We should follow the footstep of Prophet (Pbuh).