The Moral Collapse and gradual break down of American/Western Society

[DESERT FIGHTER]

@DESERT FIGHTER Yara ek baat batao, how come people can insult Islam on this forum and don't get banned?

how about mockin our martyrs n getting away with it?

 

[Indus Falcon]

attention dont wrestle with this guy he likes it..

this guy got his education in Pak.. mocks our martyred soldiers... hate our country.. is a pessimist but look at this thing advocation usa in every other thread.. which doesnt even concern him.. self hating coconut.

Inferiority Complex, or he is not a (ex)Pakistani. Pick one

how about mockin our martyrs n getting away with it?

I simply don't understand why the mods do this!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Inferiority Complex, or he is not a (ex)Pakistani. Pick one



I simply don't understand why the mods do this!

Sir ... misal tu suni hogi ... same case.

 

[VCheng]

Chillaxin'!

 

[VCheng]

Enjoy the long weekend!

 

[Indus Falcon]

Enjoy the long weekend!

Who are these, your boy friends?

 

[Indus Falcon]

Pool party time!

With cows? What's wrong with you man, you got no taste. Now I'm sure you are Indian!

 

[VCheng]

With cows? What's wrong with you man, you got no taste. Now I'm sure you are Indian!

Is that photo not typical of the topic of this thread? We must stay on topic!

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[VCheng]

How much of that list above is also applicable to other countries in the region?

 

[Desert Fox]

Read the list from Point 84 onwards. that's what gives it a religious tone. not doubting the stats I called the list BS because every nation suffers from some sort of social ills in varying degrees. But calling it moral collapse and gradual break down of society is presumptuous.

Ok, i see where you're coming from.

This is how i see it from point 84 onwards: America's dominant religion (the faith practiced by majority of Americans since the country's independence) is Christianity, a religion in which sexual promiscuity and other obscene sexual acts are strictly prohibited and the observance of modesty and self restraint is considered a religious obligation. What the article is pointing out is that gradually, over time, as the influence of Christianity has decreased and the more Americans have abandoned their Christian values, the acceptance of premarital sex and hypersexualization of the society as well as the indulgence in promiscuous sexual behaviors has increased drastically.

Though, besides sexual degeneration, there are other forms of degeneration as well like judging people based on how much money they have, the more $$ you have in your pocket the more influence you have over officials in important offices and seats of power like the media, gov.t, etc (yeah, this does happen in America too). The worship of material wealth is appalling, and capitalism ingrained this corrupt mindset within the people where everyone just wants to make money, even if through illegal means and as long as its under the radar, regardless if someone else's well being is sacrificed in the process.

 

[Desert Fox]

The only I thing some secular might consider a religious POV is the part about abortion statistics and sex out of wedlock.

Although secular people don't understand that this is reaching children quickly and it's getting extreme. It's only going to develop into a worse habit especially for young children.

I've seen 10 year old girls dressing like celebrities in adult concerts. Little kids are doing drugs, sexuality is getting way too insane. Being a girl nowadays means you need to do your friends sexual favors. I'm not joking, if they haven't already gotten her drunk and done the deed.

Eventually something is going to hit this society, there may be future backlashes.

Yeah, i know quite a lot of guys who boast and brag about how they don't need gf's or that they don't want to get married since they have girls as "friends with benefits" with whom they can hook up at any moment.

A very sick society indeed. Its very tragic because most of these young people have potential and they could be doing something constructive for society rather than getting drunk or high and screwing a different person every other night and then getting pregnant or acquiring a STD and ruining their own future.

You live here? You're 19 years old?

I'm currently residing in Pakistan on a visit and will return very soon. And no, i'm not 19.

 

[Contrarian]

It would be quite easy for me to cut-and-paste dozens and dozens of horrible stories about brutal and dysfunctional incidents in Pakistani society. Five minutes of Googling and you can find more than are worth mentioning. Everything from brutal rapes, (including boys) and murders of religious, ethnic, social minorities, treatment of women, a violent crime rate considerably higher than in the USA, etc., etc., but unlike Desert Fox, I am not a troll and refuse to post stories that are sensationalist, pseudo "facts" and out-right lies, designed to inflame opinion. That is how an adolescent mind posts.

Well said.

These people who post threads like this are the ones who are truly blind to all ills in their society. Yet they are the first to point fingers at another society - which by almost all counts is far better than their own.

Almost each and every Pakistani would love to jump ship and live in the US/West if he/she could. That, I think is the most conclusive proof of which society is fundamentally flawed and which is not.

 

[Desert Fox]

After Weed Legalized in Colorado, Fourth-Graders Bring It to Sell at School

GREELEY, COLO. – Several elementary school students in Colorado were suspended Tuesday after school officials discovered they were selling and trading stolen, loose-leaf marijuana and edible forms of the drug at school.

"Over the past two days, we have had two separate incidents of students bringing marijuana into our school, both in the form of loose-leaf marijuana and an edible form of the drug," Jennifer Sheldon, principal of Montfort Elementary School, wrote in a letter to parents.

On Monday, a fourth-grade student brought loose-leaf marijuana to school and sold it to three other students, reports KUSA-TV.

One of the students who purchased pot brought a marijuana edible to school the following day and gave it to the kid who initially sold him loose-leaf pot, according to school officials.

The drug deal was exposed by yet another student who told a teacher. According to school officials, the students stole it from their grandparents who didn't lock it up.

None of the kids where charged, however the students involved have been suspended.

At the school district's request, the grandparents will not be charged either. Instead, they're hoping this will serve as a warning to any adult who consumes marijuana.

"The word of warning is this stuff is dangerous and we wish they would secure it much like they would a firearm or something that could get in the hands of kids," said John Gates, director of school safety for Greeley School District 6.

Well said.

These people who post threads like this are the ones who are truly blind to all ills in their society. Yet they are the first to point fingers at another society - which by almost all counts is far better than their own.

Almost each and every Pakistani would love to jump ship and live in the US/West if he/she could. That, I think is the most conclusive proof of which society is fundamentally flawed and which is not.

Bharatis never fail to disappoint when it comes to posting nonsensical rants.

Anyhow, this was my response to @Desertfalcon 's post:

Go ahead and fell free to do so. its not like Western media isn't already too concerned with what goes on in Pakistan or any other Muslim country.

And to be quite honest, i won't be offended at all if you did, because wrong is wrong and i won't try to hide it because unlike yourself my ego isn't hurt from accepting the truth.

I have every right to point out the wrong in society whether it be American or Pakistani. At least i am constructively discussing the issues rather than posting complete off topic rants that make absolutely no sense at all (like yours).

 

[Nike]

Still so many Pakistani, Arabs, Libyan, Syrian everyone of you who has been called pious Hajj and ummah want to stay and living in USA and getting parts in this moral decadent society

 

[Dubious]

Hahahaha...funny thread! Esp the part where some people are turning a blind eye and protecting a country that is not even theirs where the people of that land wouldnt blink an eye to agree with most of what OP has stated....

The people may be nice (no doubt)...As for the parents accepting it or not...the fact is there is moral degradation when parents cant stop it and end up accepting it as the norm!

I only go there for visiting not for living!