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The Middle East needs a stronger Erdogan

Is NOT deep state and an uncooperative opposition responsible for the instability in Muslim lands?


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The Middle East needs a stronger Erdogan

A referendum win for Turkey’s president would dismay his critics but be good for the region

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Roger Boyes

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Should we worry more about Turkey’s swaggering sultan, Recep Tayyip Erdogan? If he wins a constitutional referendum on Sunday, his critics say, he will abuse the powers of an executive presidency, further cracking down on the press and subverting institutions. And if he loses, the president will indefinitely extend the state of emergency that was imposed after last summer’s failed putsch. “The military coup was foiled,” says Can Dündar, sacked editor of the newspaper Cumhuriyet, “but a civilian coup suspended freedoms.”

Not a happy choice this weekend, it seems, for the Turks. Yet a stronger Erdogan, acting within constitutional restraints, is what Turkey and the wider Middle East needs at the moment. A Yes vote, one that formalises the authority of a directly elected executive presidency, could give him the psychological reassurance to loosen up at home and become an important stabilising force in Syria.

Erdogan will never be the kind of democrat that the European Union or Turkish metropolitan liberals want him to be. He could, however, turn into a kind of Lee Kuan Yew, the autocrat credited with transforming Singapore from a Third World into a First World country within a generation. He too tried to modernise, create a growth economy while facing off external enemies — communists, Indonesia — in a tricky neighbourhood.

The Turkish leader certainly started off as a moderniser; a popular mayor of Istanbul in the 1990s, he led a young Justice and Development party to a landslide victory in 2002. In short order, he accepted a UN unification plan for Cyprus, endearing him to the EU; brought in minority rights for the Kurds; subordinated the army to civilian control; and gave a voice to Turks who were simultaneously socially conservative Muslims and intrepid entrepreneurs. Inward investment boomed.

That was Erdogan I.0 and he was still seen to be the initiator of a successful model when the Arab Spring overturned Middle East regimes in 2011. His AKP party seemed briefly at least to offer a possible model for the emerging democracies of the region.

Two problems created Erdogan 2.0, the man that the EU loves to hate. The first was his sense that the much-feared deep state — the web of army officers, intelligence people, clubbable judges — was out to get him. The army had thrown out four governments in four decades, threatened many more and whispered to its friends in Nato governments that Erdogan was a rabid Islamist. If Erdogan fell into fits of paranoia, it was partly down to the sense of enemies within.

That explains the purge after last July’s coup attempt: jails burst at the seams with supporters of the exiled preacher Fethullah Gülen, who was supposedly behind the bungled power grab. Tens of thousands have lost jobs, businessmen suspected of disloyalty have had their assets seized, critical teachers have been forced out of education, newspapers shut.

Second, the Syrian war started to destabilise Turkey. In part it was personal. Erdogan was upset by old email intercepts from Asma Assad to her husband Bashar, moaning about the boorishness of their summer house guest Erdogan and his apparently shopaholic wife. Erdogan also has fierce political arguments against Assad staying in power. His massacres stoked anger across the Sunni world; Gulf states were piling in to pay jihadists to fight the regime and Erdogan was being marginalised. Refugees poured over the border. Islamic State set up cells. And the atomisation of Syria prompted a surge of activity by Syrian Kurd groups, in contact with the banned PKK inside Turkey.

Hence Erdogan 2.0: an autocrat at bay, trusting no one. If he wins the referendum on Sunday, however, we may see an Erdogan 3.0. Turkish friends howl at my apparent naivety when I make the case for a Yes vote. But consider this: a stronger Turkish leader, no longer looking over his shoulder and in place for what could well be the final years of the Assad regime, is exactly what is needed. As Vladimir Putin’s hold on Damascus weakens, Turkey’s regional authority can only grow. And Turkey remains a Nato member, committed to an outcome in Syria that also serves the interests of the alliance.

A more confident Turkish leader should be able to acknowledge that his domestic critics are not terrorists just because they represent alternative opinions. If he does that, if he holds by his promise to act as a holding station for the refugees heading via Turkey towards Europe, then the West can surely stop treating him as a Putin clone.

If the West wants to rehabilitate Erdogan then it has to sort out the problem of the Kurdish militias which are in effect being used as western (and Russian) ground troops in Syria. If they are in the front line of the force that drives Isis out of Raqqa, they may end up occupying the Sunni town or handing it over to Assad (and the Russians). Neither is a good outcome for Turkey.

We have to let the Syrian Kurds down gently: they are not going to be allowed to carve out an independent Kurdistan.

Sooner rather than later we will all —Europeans, Americans, Russians, the Gulf states and especially the Turks — have to rebuild Syria together with the Syrians, reimagine the Middle East and bury a lot of bodies. We can start next week by not treating Erdogan as the devil incarnate. There’s only one of those, we know where he lives — and it’s not in Ankara.

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My opinion : One of those rare pragmatic articles on Erdogan and turkey written and published by western media. More importantly the points made by the author is true for most Muslim countries. Even when Muslim countries have elected leaders they are inundated with legitimate & justifiable fear of overthrow by a deep state colliding with foreign powers. Morsi in egypt is very good example of how vulnerable and powerless elected representatives in many Muslim lands are. Also opposition in many muslim countries do NOT help either. The moment they loose election they start agitating and street protest with threats of bringing down government. This kind of attitudes and political mindset makes elected Presidents and PM invest more time in consolidating powers, enriching establishment cronies and buying allies rather than on policies and projects required for development. Elected representatives elected by free & fair election must be given a free hand to rule effectively with constructive opposition NOT knee jerk reaction and street rhetoric.


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A stronger Erdoğan? wait 2 days more.
 
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Middle east needs one man that binds them together and leads them back to honour and dignity with no hatred between.Could be Erdogan or Alike.

Middle east needs leaders who can shut up western (including russain/chinese/whatever) nose-poking and provide environments where society can grow and develop islamically and where Islam's role in society is respected and acknowledged. It can be a monarchy or elected PM/president does NOT matter. Otherwise people will feel oppressed and rebel and foreign powers will take advantage.
 
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I wonder how much money the pro-Muslim Brotherhood Turks and Qataris paid Roger Boyes to publish this nonsensical tripe.

The Middle East doesn't need strongmen. If anything, strongmen are the very reason why the Middle East is a backward shithole in the first place. Baathist Iraq was ruled by a strongman in the form of Saddam Hussein for many decades. Look how that turned out. Iraq is now a failed state on the verge of permanent/irreversible fragmentation (along ethnic and sectarian lines) precisely because of the naive "strongman politics" of Baathism in the 1970s and 80s that literally tore apart Iraqi society and bankrupted the country in spite of its abundant natural resources and great potential. Likewise, Syria, Egypt, Libya, and Yemen have all gone down the shitter over the last 5 or 6 years precisely because of self-destructive, polarizing "strongman politics" that drove each and every one of these countries down the road of perpetual conflict and global irrelevance.

Erdogan is repeating the exact same mistakes that many Middle Eastern leaders have made since the end of World War II. Comparing him to the founder of Singapore is a huge insult to the average IQ level, culture, and meritocratic and business-oriented nature of Singaporeans and other nationalities in the Far East (i.e. East Asia and Southeast Asia). Erdogan isn't meritocratic or a genuine free market capitalist, nor is he as intelligent as the founder of Singapore and other Far Eastern leaders. Erdogan is more or less an Islamist-flavored version of Assad, Gaddafi, Mobarak and Saddam. Jailing more journalists than any other country in the world and arbitrarily detaining innocent people for an indefinite period of time on dubious charges isn't exactly the recipe for successful governance. Becoming another Middle Eastern dictator in order to blend in with your equally pathetic neighbors isn't going to make you or your country any better in the long term. On the contrary, you're simply going to destroy your own country in the same way that other leaders have done to theirs.

Lastly, the best kind of leader is one who isn't an ideologue. If you're an ideologue, you'll never be a pragmatist, in which case you'll end up doing many things that will harm the interests of your country. An Islamist ideologue is no different from an ethnic nationalist. If you want to see what Islamism would do to a country, then look no further than Iran, a country that destroyed its own economy and has experienced a massive brain drain since the 1980s for the sake of maintaining its irrational and self-destructive anti-Western foreign policy and for the sake of preserving its religious Islamic character. Likewise, if you want to see what ethnic nationalism can do to a country, then look no farther than Egypt, a country that had so much potential to become a global player in the 1960s but blew it away by putting pan-Arab nationalism ahead of its own national interests.

Turkey needs a leader who isn't swayed by either religious or ethno-nationalist rhetoric. It also needs a leader who can make the country freer, not less free.

In order for Turkey to survive, it needs to have a robust and dynamic economy. And in order for Turkey to have a good economy, the Turks must support economic freedom. The catch is that economic freedom cannot occur without political freedom, and vice versa. So if Turkey wants to have a good (and, therefore, open) economy, then it must have an open and free political system. You either have both, or you have none.

Right now, it looks like Erdogan is destroying his country, not making it better.
 
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@Kuwaiti Girl

This girl again mixes dictators and elected leaders. 2 days later majority of Turks will vote who is gonna rule them and Erdoğan will win it. BBUUUUURRRNNNNNNN! You and alikes.
Putin also wins elections. It doesn't make him any less autocratic.
 
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Putin also wins elections. It doesn't make him any less autocratic.

Their country their rules. Same goes for us ;) What foreigners think about Erdoğan is really has zero weight. You can call him dictator, autocrat, strongman, sultan etc. He is just elected president of the Republic of Turkey, elected by his own people. PERIOD.
 
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Their country their rules. Same goes for us ;) What foreigners think about Erdoğan is really has zero weight. You can call him dictator, autocrat, strongman, sultan etc. He is just elected president of the Republic of Turkey, elected by his own people. PERIOD.
Let's shut down this forum in that case.
 
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Why? You may be use this place just for whining about Erdoğan and Turkey but this forum has wider range of spectrum for whom have wider interests :D
Well, going by your logic (or lack thereof), there's no point talking about a country that you don't belong to, right?

So, in that case, the whole point of having a forum to discuss regional politics is moot.
 
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Turkey should leave NATO...and show the Muslim world that it can lead the Islamic block...at the moment it is looking out for itself...same goes with Saudi,uae,qatar!!
All these rich countries are living happily...and making poorer countries to fight dirty war in the name of religion!! I think the problem of middle east is middle itself!!
Feel free too disagree!
 
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Middle east needs leaders who can shut up western (including russain/chinese/whatever) nose-poking and provide environments where society can grow and develop islamically and where Islam's role in society is respected and acknowledged. It can be a monarchy or elected PM/president does NOT matter. Otherwise people will feel oppressed and rebel and foreign powers will take advantage.
I agree Luffy but unfortunately Erdogan cant do it alone.he should be supported by the rest of the gulf leaders whom I think dont care about Muslim unity and co operation.
 
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