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you should be ashamed to bring in caste considerations as a factor
Although I don't condone such crude language, caste played a major role throughout KA society, and it still plays a significant role. Now, you can sit here and claim it's BJP's Hindutva, but if you had watched the candidature on Kannada TVs, you would have seen that they have all been discussing this guy, Shetty, and how he's going to be influenced by this group. This guy belongs to the Vokkaliga, he can beat this Shetty because Vokkaligas votes consolidate while Shetty votes are scattered and so forth. But national networks still talk about everything else, I wish people don't have such caste surnames and made it a crime to discuss caste during elections, but alas.
 
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Even that in some circles is seen as a diabolically clever move by the Sangh Parivar to lull its opposition into a sense of security with regard to EVMs, so that there might be a major move during the General Elections in 24.
The BJP is going to hack EVMs in 2024 no doubt about it.

But why is opposition so stupid?

Why don't they start a movement against EVMs
 
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This is one of the remaining neutral or objective journalists, on the subject of the spanking that the BJP has got in the Karnataka elections.

Read on.


@CallSignMaverick
@Halwa Brigade
@jamahir
@Kaniska
@Krptonite
@MilSpec
@Skimming
@SoulSpokesman

@Chute
@Destranator
@Goritoes
@villageidiot
Actually these results were very much expected. Now when bjp will win from all parts of India with overwhelming majority and people will object, bjp will have excuse that people were not saying anything when we lost in Karnataka.

I think plan for general elections are already made, and BJP will defeat everyone, even Shev Sena in maharashtra, and congress in Punjab and Bengal.

Ram Raj sat hai.
 
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Dude why are you telling me about BJP corruption, its like teaching your father how to phuck. I have been calling out BJP corruption long before it was cool to do so, when you bhagtodas were choosing Modi’s 56mm cock. It was me who created threads like this(with no replies) when you bhaktodas were creating threads about shining India, vedic uses of cowpee and Modi Monkey magic.


And now suddenly you and others on this thread seem to have woken up and lecturing me about bjp corruption. What happened? cow pee wear off and replaced with coffee? Or cowpee replaced with camel pee?

Dude...

As I said, I support leaders based on their capabilities.

Between 2004 and 2014, Congress received the opportunity, but it was marred by core corruption. Rahul Gandhi. Rahul's aptitude isn't any greater than that of Pakistan's Bilawal.

Bring in a more skilled leader to fill the position of prime minister once Congress has dumped the Gandhi dynasty. There is a likelihood that they will succeed.

As I stated, if they elect a more capable leader, I will back him.............. since many are here with false flagger and I am not saying you are as of now, i would not like to comment further on this
 
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This is one of the remaining neutral or objective journalists, on the subject of the spanking that the BJP has got in the Karnataka elections.

Read on.


@CallSignMaverick
@Halwa Brigade
@jamahir
@Kaniska
@Krptonite
@MilSpec
@Skimming
@SoulSpokesman

@Chute
@Destranator
@Goritoes
@villageidiot

I found the talk more like an advise to BJP why it lost. Although he is right about women not voting for BJP. This would be especially so in places like Mangalore where Bajrang Dal does moral policing. Though there is also the "Muslim" equivalent - the SDPI - which is the election-participating wing of PFI.

But the talk had no mention at all of Congress' Bharat Jodo Yatra.

They are not Hindutvavadis to begin, their leaders proudly proclaim how its a secular institution with members from various religious backgrounds.

Please explain.

It is well deserved. In other parts of the world people are voting for people of a totally different color/religion etc as long as he/she is the best person for the job and here we have people dumping a party because some people from their shitty subsect were dumped. So a party not only has to worry about finding a candidate of the same religion, language and caste of the populace, but also worry about sects, subsects etc.

Although parties, elections and votes are not democracy but an illusion of democracy you are right about the extremely complicated Indian social system which is not found elsewhere. I find it ridiculous when nationalist Indians crow "In India language and dress change every 100 kilometers". What for ?

Siddaramaiah is so clearly superior to any of the Sanghi leadership that you should be ashamed to bring in caste considerations as a factor, when the Sangh Parivar tried to use it and failed.

Yes, Siddaramaiah is quite a rational and straight-talker quite a few times. He is not only superior to Sanghi leadership but also among the brave ones in the Congress other than Rahul and a few. Where Bhupesh Baghel, the Congressi CM of Chattisgarh had his father jailed because the father said that the Brahmans are foreigners, Siddaramaiah said that he is a Dravidian and the original inhabitant of India and that the Aryans are originally foreigners but became Indian just like Sonia Gandhi was originally from Italy but married Rajiv and became Indian just like many current Indians go to other countries and become citizens there. Multiple points in one statement. Clever.

BJP has not delivered on the promise in Karnataka, so this was coming. I hope they have taken the message and buck up for the upcoming elections.

What promises ?

This abusive caste attack is simply not acceptable.

Absolutely !

I am still Indian and I can still vote if I am in India. I have voted in all the general elections till far. I am abroad for financial reasons but I still have stake (family) in India. BJP at the center is the reality of India for foreseeable future that no Joe can change.

For the sake of this argument, in talking about principles, it doesn't matter that BJP is the reality of India in the near-future. You tell me, about the point @RealDeal raised about a few million Indians dying of COVID needlessly, and to extend this I point to many dying of various needless causes during the criminal, system-enforced Reverse Migration of urban daily wage workers - from hunger and thirst to snake bite to getting crushed under trains to dropping off during the walks to getting hit by goods vehicles while even a NATO-aligned country like Kuwait ensured free food for those who couldn't afford while in India the top Capitalists increased their wealth by a trillion rupees - essentially making money by robbing dead or exhausted bodies.

This is just part of the story of the COVID years in India. Even in USA, where you live, the president would have enough shame to resign, not so much Modi jee.

Like I said nobody cares about Joe. Likes of you can cry on PDF. BJP will be in power for foreseeable future taking India to it's glorious destination. Meanwhile Hindus like Rishi, Vivek Ramaswamy will guide the world and Joe can do nothing about it either.

For you it all is Hindu, Hindu, Hindu. Especially the crooks. What is this Rishi fellow ? A wealthy person who didn't have a working class friend and imposed taxes on the struggling but during his PM campaign got done vids of himself going to pubs and watching football with the commoners and doing cringey laughy high-fives with the commoners. A fakester and a crook who embraces Nazis like Zelensky. What is Rishi Rich going to do for Britain ? Abolish money, monarchy, military and the dual parliament that represents an illusion of democracy ?

And who is this Vivek Ramaswamy fellow ? Anyone apart from Bhakts are fervently in Holy Await for him ?

I didn't get the tag, so I doubt the rest did either...in case you later feel they are ignoring on purpose.

Thank you for tagging me. I too didn't get the tag but happened to see this thread last night but decided to reply in the morning as I was sleepy.

I enjoyed his mysore pak riposte to that BJP goon on air a lot :D

What is this incident ?

A big factor for national elections would be viable opposition candidates. Someone that can rally the opposition to their cause like PM Modi did.

Congress has been unable for the last decade, no other suitable viable exists.

Our choices basically boil down to choosing between the incompetent who hide behind religous bluster or the corrupt who hide behind secularism :unsure:

About your last paragraph, "incompetent" doesn't fully describe BJP. Secondly, who are these corrupt who hide behind secularism ?

ಇಲ್ಲಿ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಹಾಗೆನೇ ಎನೂ ಗೊತ್ತಿಲ್ಲದವ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ತಿಳಿದವರ ಹಾಗೆ ಆಡತಾರೆ,

ಕರ್ನಾಟಕದ ಜನ ಭಾಗ್ಯಕ್ಕೋಸ್ಕರ ವೋಟ್ ಹಾಕಿದ್ರು ಇನ್ ಮೇಲೆ ಯಾವ ದೌರ್ಭಾಗ್ಯ ಕಾದಿದೆಯೋ ಕಾದೇ ನೋಡಬೇಕು

What is the point in showing off your Kannada skills on an English forum ?
 
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Sure, by ripping the country apart, using religion to gain power and rake in money through corrupt practices, and an inability to handle either economics, or foreign policy, or defence.
Itne alarmist bhi na ho, sir. 10 years hone ko aaye.. just business as usual, nothing too perceptibly bad has happened afaics/t.

but aap leftist jo ho, har cheez m "fascism" nazar aata hai :D
 
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Although I don't condone such crude language, caste played a major role throughout KA society, and it still plays a significant role. Now, you can sit here and claim it's BJP's Hindutva, but if you had watched the candidature on Kannada TVs, you would have seen that they have all been discussing this guy, Shetty, and how he's going to be influenced by this group. This guy belongs to the Vokkaliga, he can beat this Shetty because Vokkaligas votes consolidate while Shetty votes are scattered and so forth. But national networks still talk about everything else, I wish people don't have such caste surnames and made it a crime to discuss caste during elections, but alas.
Caste has always been a factor in indian elections. BJP managed to consolidate non-Jatav (SC) and non-Yadav (OBC) votes in UP. Upper caste was always with them.
Every party tries to consolidate votes as per caste.
BJP is trying to overcome this handicap through Hindutva.
 
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Like Modi has Monkey Baat Raul needs to start Cow ki Baat to reach out to wider audience.
Its not as straightforward, one man does not rule alone, the dispensation behind them does.

There is no alternative to BJP, Congress seems unable to take its head out of the sand that is the Ghandi family. They had a decade to figure BJP and its tactics and they still cant counter them on a national stage. What a disappointment.

About your last paragraph, "incompetent" doesn't fully describe BJP. Secondly, who are these corrupt who hide behind secularism ?
That would be the Grand old party. My formative years were spent listening to common wealth, 2g, coal scams. For a naive idiot who wanted to be proud of being Indian for what it was worth, these scams left a deep distaste for the party.
 
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ಇಲ್ಲಿ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಹಾಗೆನೇ ಎನೂ ಗೊತ್ತಿಲ್ಲದವ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ತಿಳಿದವರ ಹಾಗೆ ಆಡತಾರೆ,

ಕರ್ನಾಟಕದ ಜನ ಭಾಗ್ಯಕ್ಕೋಸ್ಕರ ವೋಟ್ ಹಾಕಿದ್ರು ಇನ್ ಮೇಲೆ ಯಾವ ದೌರ್ಭಾಗ್ಯ ಕಾದಿದೆಯೋ ಕಾದೇ ನೋಡಬೇಕು
Why misfortune? People have been very happy under Congress rule, at least, happier than under BJP rule.

Like Modi has Monkey Baat Raul needs to start Cow ki Baat to reach out to wider audience.
No UP Elections up for some time - Cow ki Baat would be a waste of time. Only the Central Ministry might be listening.

Like Modi has Monkey Baat Raul needs to start Cow ki Baat to reach out to wider audience.
No UP Elections up for some time - Cow ki Baat would be a waste of time. Only the Central Ministry might be listening.
I have been calling out BJP corruption long before it was cool to do so, when you bhagtodas were choosing Modi’s 56mm cock. It was me who created threads like this(with no replies) when you bhaktodas were creating threads about shining India, vedic uses of cowpee and Modi Monkey magic.
Astonishing.

All the way from the 4th of March, this year?

Although I don't condone such crude language, caste played a major role throughout KA society, and it still plays a significant role. Now, you can sit here and claim it's BJP's Hindutva, but if you had watched the candidature on Kannada TVs, you would have seen that they have all been discussing this guy, Shetty, and how he's going to be influenced by this group. This guy belongs to the Vokkaliga, he can beat this Shetty because Vokkaligas votes consolidate while Shetty votes are scattered and so forth. But national networks still talk about everything else, I wish people don't have such caste surnames and made it a crime to discuss caste during elections, but alas.
You still haven't justified that crude language. Discussions on caste arithmetic don't warrant such language. What is the excuse?

Actually these results were very much expected. Now when bjp will win from all parts of India with overwhelming majority and people will object, bjp will have excuse that people were not saying anything when we lost in Karnataka.
That is what the cynical have been saying about EVMs.

Congratulations on having passed the qualifying tests and interviews.

I think plan for general elections are already made, and BJP will defeat everyone, even Shev Sena in maharashtra, and congress in Punjab and Bengal.
Congratulations again.

Have they sent you the ceremonial underwear?
 
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Itne alarmist bhi na ho, sir. 10 years hone ko aaye.. just business as usual, nothing too perceptibly bad has happened afaics/t.

but aap leftist jo ho, har cheez m "fascism" nazar aata hai :D
I am not a leftist.

Detecting fascism in these undereducated and religious-bigotry filled idiots does not require an acquisition of leftist ideology. The Anglo-Americans who took stands against the Nazis and the original Fascists were not leftist either.

I quite get that having nothing to defend your scumbags with, you have to try and throw mud, and hope it sticks. It won't. I have been on the forum long enough for people to know my views.
 
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That would be the Grand old party.

Let us not use that silly Americanism at least as it portrays legitimacy in party-based political system, that too one which had majority support at one point or is money-rich. Let us acknowledge that however the factionism the Indian leftists are far more grander in their vision for India and humanity than any other election-participating group in India or that not. :)

My formative years were spent listening to common wealth, 2g, coal scams. For a naive idiot who wanted to be proud of being Indian for what it was worth, these scams left a deep distaste for the party.

That was the past. BJP's moral corruption, including monetary, outdoes anything the world has shown. :)

Does Rahul not bring cheer to you ? His various simple statements and questions and his participation in the Yatra which was mostly hidden from the Indian public by Godi Media ?
 
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What are you then?

Please tell us.
A liberal, equidistant from Congress, the various communist parties (three at last count), and the Sangh Parivar.

Now that you have this, will you stop your dishonest posts on PDF?
 
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