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The Iraqi Armed Forces

No, F16 isn’t for counter insurgency, F16 is for bombing & air-air operations.

Even the Apache and MI 28 are heavy and only to be called in during an offensive/attack mission, escort of ground forces or close air support.

Drones, King air 350 ISR equipped with hellfire missiles.



Iraq bought ~16.000 sniper rifles from Russia in the 4,2 bil deal.

see pic above

T5000 orsis precision

that is what we need a big bomb airplane, just few days ago we found 16 lorry from ISIS, if we had F16 and not the toys we have to day we could bomb them back to jehenem

No bro he means something like this>

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but your MoD funny they don't know where to or they might just don't wana get what's good for the country to day.
I wouldnt even call that a fighting airplane more like an airplane to have lessons with
 
Soon the fleet larger purchases.
The goal is to first build a partullsflotta, then increase the level to be able to have major operations in the Gulf and Sea of Oman. and finally be able to build a fleet with an operation in the Indian Ocean. This requires as 2035 (Armada military planning from 2010 to 2035)

- Unknown number partull b
- 8-12 Corvettes
- 12 Frigates (Read it, but do not think that Iraq can afford the like)
- 6 Destroyers
- Submarines (Sources vary, there are some who say 8 submarines, and others say 16 submarines)
- 2 Amfibieattackfartyg
- Unknown number landstigningsfaryg

The proposed corvettes are:
Type 056 Corvette
Steregushchy Corvette
Gremyashchy Corvette

Type 056 Corvette
The Type 056 corvette is a new Chinese light warship that entered service with the People's Liberation Army Navy in 2012 as a replacement for the Type 037 series of patrol vessels. It has been described as a stealth missile corvette which is also armed with a 76mm main gun.

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Steregushchy Corvette
The Steregushchy is the newest class of corvette in the Russian Navy. It was designed by the Almaz Central Marine Design bureau. The first two were designated Project 2038.0 (or 20380) by the Russian Government; subsequent vessels were built to an improved design, Project 20385.[2] At 2,200 tons it is large for a corvette and is designated as a frigate by NATO. Project 20382 "Tigr" is an export variant that has been ordered by Algeria and probably will Iraqi Navy but this Corvette to.
This type has been further developed into the Gremyashchy class corvette.

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Gremyashchy Corvette
The Gremyashchy class is an advanced development of the Steregushchy class corvette of the Russian Navy. This follow-on project was designed by the Almaz Central Marine Design bureau in Saint Petersburg.

The Gremyashchy-class corvettes differ from their predecessors of the Steregushchy class by greater dimensions and displacement. They have a steel hull and composite superstructure, with a bulbous bow and nine watertight subdivisions. Compared with the Soobrazitelny, Boiky, Sovershenny and Stoiky ships, which are fitted with Redut air defense VLS system of 12 launchers on the bow, these new ships are equipped with a UKSK VLS system comprising 8 launchers for SS-N-27 or SS-N-26 cruise missiles instead. The Redut VLS system with 16 launchers has been replaced on the stern. Another difference is the lack of the aft mast above the helicopter hangar, and single integrated mainmast that no longer includes separate open shelves for artillery and navigation radars.

The proposed Frigates:
FREMM Frigate
F-22P Zulfiquar-class frigate
La Fayette-class frigate
Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate

FREMM Frigate
The FREMM (European multipurpose frigate) (French Frégate européenne multi-mission or Italian Fregata europea multi-missione) is a class of frigate designed by DCNS/Armaris and Fincantieri for the navies of France and Italy. The lead ship of the class, Aquitaine, was commissioned in November 2012 by the French Navy. In France the class is known as the Aquitaine-class, while in Italy they are known as the Bergamini-class. Italy is buying two versions, a general purpose frigate and an anti-submarine variant; France hopes to buy an air-defence variant. To date the only export has been one anti-submarine variant delivered to Morocco in 2014.

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F-22P Zulfiquar-class frigate
The F-22P or Zulfiquar-class frigate is a general purpose frigate being built by Pakistan and China for the Pakistan Navy (PN). The first ship, PNS Zulfiquar, was handed over to the PN on 30 July 2009 and the second, PNS Shamsheer, on 23 January 2010. The third frigate, PNS Saif was commissioned on 15 Sep 2011. The fourth and last frigate of F-22P series, PNS Aslat was inducted on 17 April 2013.

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La Fayette-class frigate
The La Fayette-class units are light multi-mission frigates built by DCNS and operated by French Marine Nationale. Derivatives of the type are in service in Saudi Arabia (Royal Saudi Navy), Singapore (Republic of Singapore Navy) and Taiwan (Republic of China Navy).
These frigates were referred to as "stealth" frigates. Their reduced radar cross section is achieved by a very clean superstructure compared to conventional designs, angled sides and radar absorbent material, a composite material of wood and glass fiber as hard as steel, light, and resistant to fire. Most modern fighting ships built around the world since the introduction of the La Fayette have followed the same principles of stealth.
All information gathered by the onboard sensors is managed by the Information Processing System, the electronic brain of the operation centre of the ship. It is completed by an electronic command aid system.
The La Fayette has space available for the future installation of the Aster 15 air-defence missile, however they will not be installed due to recent cost issues. The ships are designed to accommodate a 10 tonne helicopter in the Panther or NH90 range (though they are also capable of operating the Super Frelon and similar heavy helicopters). These helicopters can carry anti-ship AM39 or AS15 missiles, and can be launched during sea state 5 or 6 due to the Samahé helicopter handling system. France ordered five ships of the La Fayette class in 1988, the last of which entered service in 2002.

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Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate
The Russian Navy has set a requirement for 20-30 such ships. The design of the ship, developed by Severnoye PKB (Northern Design Bureau) FSUE in St. Petersburg, was approved by Naval Command in July 2003. The plan is to fully replace the older Project 956 Sovremenny class destroyers and Project 1135 Burevestnik class frigates in four Russian fleets.
The lead ship, Admiral Gorshkov (actual name Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov), was laid down on 1 February 2006 in Severnaya Verf Shipyard at St. Petersburg. In late October 2008 the Russian deputy prime minister, Sergei Ivanov, announced that the first ship in the class would be ready by 2011. He said the timely construction of combat ships is a priority task of the Russian shipbuilding industry. The lead ship completion date was announced first as 2009, but later as 2010, and then as 2011. Latest report states that the frigate will join the Russian Navy in November 2013.
On 24 June 2009, during the "МВМС-IMDS 2009" International Naval Expo, the Commander in Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky, announced that the production of a second Admiral Gorshkov class frigate would begin at Severnaya Verf shipyard in St. Petersburg by the end of the year. In November 2009 the Severnaya Verf shipyard in St Petersburg announced that it would start the construction of the second ship of the class Admiral Kasatonov on 26 November. The ship was laid down in a ceremony attended by representatives of the Russian Navy, the St. Petersburg administration, and Admiral Igor Kasatonov - the son of the ship's namesake, Vladimir Kasatonov. Admiral Kasatonov is expected to join the fleet in 2014.
The first frigate was floated out of the launch dock on 29 October 2010. The ship was only 40 percent complete and then began to be fitted out. At present, main mechanical equipment and systems providing safe launching has been installed, including a combined diesel and gas turbine (CODAG) powerplant, gear assemblies, drive shafts and screws, and electric power supply facilities. Further works will be performed at the shipyard's fitting quay.
On August 21, 2012, the Severnaya Verf shipyard announched that it had taken out two four-year loans worth RUB 16.23bn (approx. USD 509.88m) from state-owned Sberbank. The money will be used on the construction of the Admiral Gorshkov class.
Between twenty and thirty ships are to be constructed for the Russian Navy. The Northern Wharf Shipyard has thus far announced having received orders for six units.

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The proposed Destroyers:
Project 21956 (For now there is only information about the negotiation of this vessel)

Project 21956
The Project 21956 class of multi-purpose destroyer represents the fourth generation of Russian surface fighting ships developed by the Severnoye Design Bureau for export.

The ship is intended to engage major surface combatants and submarines, perform anti-submarine and air defense, as well as fire support for landing operations.
The exterior of the ship is built with stealth technology reducing the ship's radar cross-section (RCS). The Project 21956 also features an integrated combat management system that operates as a network for a higher degree of survivability.

The air defense suite of the Project 21956 includes one AK-130 130mm twin-barrel multi-purpose gun with 5P-10-02E fire control radar and a maximum range of 23 kilometers. Rif-M extended range air defense system with 3Ts-48E control system and six 3S-48E launchers at bow deck. Each launcher has eight 48N6E2 missiles or four 9M96 missiles replacing each 48N6E2 missile. Kashtan-M short-range air defense system with 3R86-ME command module, 3R87-1E combat module and eight 9M311-1 missiles and 30mm rounds.

The anti-ship and anti-submarine weapon systems are located at the aft deck. ASW weapons include: 3Ts-14E launchers with 91RTE2 anti-submarine rockets; and TPU/4 missile-torpedo launchers for 91RE1 anti-submarine rocket or torpedoes of UGST or UETT type. ASuW weapons consist of the Kalibr-NKE weapon systems which comprises the 3R-14N fire control system, 3S-14E launchers and up to 16 3M54TE subsonic cruise missiles, 3M54E supersonic cruise missiles or 91RTE2 rockets carrying an anti-ship torpedo. The 3M54TE/3M54E missiles are intended to engage either surface ships or targets onshore at ranges of 220 kilometers. Nevertheless, the weapon system may include tailored weapon systems according to customer requirements such as BrahMos supersonic missile and/or BrahMos 2 hypersonic missile replacing Club-N missile system.

Submarines proposed: (2 Models of submarines will be bought, one less for the Gulf and a major Indian ocean)
proposed Less submarines
Amur 950 Submarine
Amur 1950 Submarine
Type 214 Submarine

Proposed Lagre submarines
uppdated Kilo submarine
Type 216 Submarine
 
Soon the fleet larger purchases.
The goal is to first build a partullsflotta, then increase the level to be able to have major operations in the Gulf and Sea of Oman. and finally be able to build a fleet with an operation in the Indian Ocean. This requires as 2035 (Armada military planning from 2010 to 2035)

- Unknown number partull b
- 8-12 Corvettes
- 12 Frigates (Read it, but do not think that Iraq can afford the like)
- 6 Destroyers
- Submarines (Sources vary, there are some who say 8 submarines, and others say 16 submarines)
- 2 Amfibieattackfartyg
- Unknown number landstigningsfaryg

The proposed corvettes are:
Type 056 Corvette
Steregushchy Corvette
Gremyashchy Corvette

Type 056 Corvette
The Type 056 corvette is a new Chinese light warship that entered service with the People's Liberation Army Navy in 2012 as a replacement for the Type 037 series of patrol vessels. It has been described as a stealth missile corvette which is also armed with a 76mm main gun.

Chinese%2BType%2B056%2BCorvette%2BUnder%2BConstruction%2Bciws%2Bc8023abc%2B602%2Bhhq9%2B16%2B7%2B10%2B(2).jpg


Steregushchy Corvette
The Steregushchy is the newest class of corvette in the Russian Navy. It was designed by the Almaz Central Marine Design bureau. The first two were designated Project 2038.0 (or 20380) by the Russian Government; subsequent vessels were built to an improved design, Project 20385.[2] At 2,200 tons it is large for a corvette and is designated as a frigate by NATO. Project 20382 "Tigr" is an export variant that has been ordered by Algeria and probably will Iraqi Navy but this Corvette to.
This type has been further developed into the Gremyashchy class corvette.

800px-Corvette_Steregushchiy.jpg


Gremyashchy Corvette
The Gremyashchy class is an advanced development of the Steregushchy class corvette of the Russian Navy. This follow-on project was designed by the Almaz Central Marine Design bureau in Saint Petersburg.

The Gremyashchy-class corvettes differ from their predecessors of the Steregushchy class by greater dimensions and displacement. They have a steel hull and composite superstructure, with a bulbous bow and nine watertight subdivisions. Compared with the Soobrazitelny, Boiky, Sovershenny and Stoiky ships, which are fitted with Redut air defense VLS system of 12 launchers on the bow, these new ships are equipped with a UKSK VLS system comprising 8 launchers for SS-N-27 or SS-N-26 cruise missiles instead. The Redut VLS system with 16 launchers has been replaced on the stern. Another difference is the lack of the aft mast above the helicopter hangar, and single integrated mainmast that no longer includes separate open shelves for artillery and navigation radars.

The proposed Frigates:
FREMM Frigate
F-22P Zulfiquar-class frigate
La Fayette-class frigate
Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate

FREMM Frigate
The FREMM (European multipurpose frigate) (French Frégate européenne multi-mission or Italian Fregata europea multi-missione) is a class of frigate designed by DCNS/Armaris and Fincantieri for the navies of France and Italy. The lead ship of the class, Aquitaine, was commissioned in November 2012 by the French Navy. In France the class is known as the Aquitaine-class, while in Italy they are known as the Bergamini-class. Italy is buying two versions, a general purpose frigate and an anti-submarine variant; France hopes to buy an air-defence variant. To date the only export has been one anti-submarine variant delivered to Morocco in 2014.

800px-Nave_Bergamini_3.JPG


F-22P Zulfiquar-class frigate
The F-22P or Zulfiquar-class frigate is a general purpose frigate being built by Pakistan and China for the Pakistan Navy (PN). The first ship, PNS Zulfiquar, was handed over to the PN on 30 July 2009 and the second, PNS Shamsheer, on 23 January 2010. The third frigate, PNS Saif was commissioned on 15 Sep 2011. The fourth and last frigate of F-22P series, PNS Aslat was inducted on 17 April 2013.

800px-F-22P_PNS_Zulfiquar.JPG


La Fayette-class frigate
The La Fayette-class units are light multi-mission frigates built by DCNS and operated by French Marine Nationale. Derivatives of the type are in service in Saudi Arabia (Royal Saudi Navy), Singapore (Republic of Singapore Navy) and Taiwan (Republic of China Navy).
These frigates were referred to as "stealth" frigates. Their reduced radar cross section is achieved by a very clean superstructure compared to conventional designs, angled sides and radar absorbent material, a composite material of wood and glass fiber as hard as steel, light, and resistant to fire. Most modern fighting ships built around the world since the introduction of the La Fayette have followed the same principles of stealth.
All information gathered by the onboard sensors is managed by the Information Processing System, the electronic brain of the operation centre of the ship. It is completed by an electronic command aid system.
The La Fayette has space available for the future installation of the Aster 15 air-defence missile, however they will not be installed due to recent cost issues. The ships are designed to accommodate a 10 tonne helicopter in the Panther or NH90 range (though they are also capable of operating the Super Frelon and similar heavy helicopters). These helicopters can carry anti-ship AM39 or AS15 missiles, and can be launched during sea state 5 or 6 due to the Samahé helicopter handling system. France ordered five ships of the La Fayette class in 1988, the last of which entered service in 2002.

FS_Surcouf.jpg


Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate
The Russian Navy has set a requirement for 20-30 such ships. The design of the ship, developed by Severnoye PKB (Northern Design Bureau) FSUE in St. Petersburg, was approved by Naval Command in July 2003. The plan is to fully replace the older Project 956 Sovremenny class destroyers and Project 1135 Burevestnik class frigates in four Russian fleets.
The lead ship, Admiral Gorshkov (actual name Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov), was laid down on 1 February 2006 in Severnaya Verf Shipyard at St. Petersburg. In late October 2008 the Russian deputy prime minister, Sergei Ivanov, announced that the first ship in the class would be ready by 2011. He said the timely construction of combat ships is a priority task of the Russian shipbuilding industry. The lead ship completion date was announced first as 2009, but later as 2010, and then as 2011. Latest report states that the frigate will join the Russian Navy in November 2013.
On 24 June 2009, during the "МВМС-IMDS 2009" International Naval Expo, the Commander in Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky, announced that the production of a second Admiral Gorshkov class frigate would begin at Severnaya Verf shipyard in St. Petersburg by the end of the year. In November 2009 the Severnaya Verf shipyard in St Petersburg announced that it would start the construction of the second ship of the class Admiral Kasatonov on 26 November. The ship was laid down in a ceremony attended by representatives of the Russian Navy, the St. Petersburg administration, and Admiral Igor Kasatonov - the son of the ship's namesake, Vladimir Kasatonov. Admiral Kasatonov is expected to join the fleet in 2014.
The first frigate was floated out of the launch dock on 29 October 2010. The ship was only 40 percent complete and then began to be fitted out. At present, main mechanical equipment and systems providing safe launching has been installed, including a combined diesel and gas turbine (CODAG) powerplant, gear assemblies, drive shafts and screws, and electric power supply facilities. Further works will be performed at the shipyard's fitting quay.
On August 21, 2012, the Severnaya Verf shipyard announched that it had taken out two four-year loans worth RUB 16.23bn (approx. USD 509.88m) from state-owned Sberbank. The money will be used on the construction of the Admiral Gorshkov class.
Between twenty and thirty ships are to be constructed for the Russian Navy. The Northern Wharf Shipyard has thus far announced having received orders for six units.

800px-Admiral_Gorshkov_class_Frigate.jpg


The proposed Destroyers:
Project 21956 (For now there is only information about the negotiation of this vessel)

Project 21956
The Project 21956 class of multi-purpose destroyer represents the fourth generation of Russian surface fighting ships developed by the Severnoye Design Bureau for export.

The ship is intended to engage major surface combatants and submarines, perform anti-submarine and air defense, as well as fire support for landing operations.
The exterior of the ship is built with stealth technology reducing the ship's radar cross-section (RCS). The Project 21956 also features an integrated combat management system that operates as a network for a higher degree of survivability.

The air defense suite of the Project 21956 includes one AK-130 130mm twin-barrel multi-purpose gun with 5P-10-02E fire control radar and a maximum range of 23 kilometers. Rif-M extended range air defense system with 3Ts-48E control system and six 3S-48E launchers at bow deck. Each launcher has eight 48N6E2 missiles or four 9M96 missiles replacing each 48N6E2 missile. Kashtan-M short-range air defense system with 3R86-ME command module, 3R87-1E combat module and eight 9M311-1 missiles and 30mm rounds.

The anti-ship and anti-submarine weapon systems are located at the aft deck. ASW weapons include: 3Ts-14E launchers with 91RTE2 anti-submarine rockets; and TPU/4 missile-torpedo launchers for 91RE1 anti-submarine rocket or torpedoes of UGST or UETT type. ASuW weapons consist of the Kalibr-NKE weapon systems which comprises the 3R-14N fire control system, 3S-14E launchers and up to 16 3M54TE subsonic cruise missiles, 3M54E supersonic cruise missiles or 91RTE2 rockets carrying an anti-ship torpedo. The 3M54TE/3M54E missiles are intended to engage either surface ships or targets onshore at ranges of 220 kilometers. Nevertheless, the weapon system may include tailored weapon systems according to customer requirements such as BrahMos supersonic missile and/or BrahMos 2 hypersonic missile replacing Club-N missile system.

Submarines proposed: (2 Models of submarines will be bought, one less for the Gulf and a major Indian ocean)
proposed Less submarines
Amur 950 Submarine
Amur 1950 Submarine
Type 214 Submarine

Proposed Lagre submarines
uppdated Kilo submarine
Type 216 Submarine
العفو اخوية انت منين الك هذي المعلومات يعني منو قصدك راح يشتري كل هذي القطع البحرية العراق لو روسيا لو منوا اذا كان قصدك االعراق عندك اي دليل على كلامك هذا؟ انت تعرف هيجي بحرية تحتاج الى كم راس مال والى كم كفاءات العراقيين غاية ما يفكرون فيه هو ك زورق دورية وكم صاروخ ساحلي تجي انت تتكلم عن غواصات كلامك هذا بعيد للاسف.

I wouldnt even call that a fighting airplane more like an airplane to have lessons with
Bro these planes are very good for COIN operations they're light fast and they can deliver precision munitions.
 
العفو اخوية انت منين الك هذي المعلومات يعني منو قصدك راح يشتري كل هذي القطع البحرية العراق لو روسيا لو منوا اذا كان قصدك االعراق عندك اي دليل على كلامك هذا؟ انت تعرف هيجي بحرية تحتاج الى كم راس مال والى كم كفاءات العراقيين غاية ما يفكرون فيه هو ك زورق دورية وكم صاروخ ساحلي تجي انت تتكلم عن غواصات كلامك هذا بعيد للاسف.

Bro these planes are very good for COIN operations they're light fast and they can deliver precision munitions.

its not about that, we need fast bomb plane, you can hear this one from miles away but if we had f16 then they wouldnt even know what hit them
 
العفو اخوية انت منين الك هذي المعلومات يعني منو قصدك راح يشتري كل هذي القطع البحرية العراق لو روسيا لو منوا اذا كان قصدك االعراق عندك اي دليل على كلامك هذا؟ انت تعرف هيجي بحرية تحتاج الى كم راس مال والى كم كفاءات العراقيين غاية ما يفكرون فيه هو ك زورق دورية وكم صاروخ ساحلي تجي انت تتكلم عن غواصات كلامك هذا بعيد للاسف.
السلام عليكم
انا اكتب في نهاية كل ارسال ان المعلومات غير اكيده
بغصوص المصدر
iraqimilitaryinsiders
IP system و لكن لاسباب امنية يجب تحدث​
 
its not about that, we need fast bomb plane, you can hear this one from miles away but if we had f16 then they wouldnt even know what hit them

No.

You suggest using heavy to bomb the unseen and little, using a B52 to target a few people in the desert is idiotic, costs a fortune, that aircraft is for mass bombardment and the F16 is good for heavy bombardment, the airplane flies too fast anyway and operational cost is too high for such unimportant missions.
 
Soon the fleet larger purchases.
The goal is to first build a partullsflotta, then increase the level to be able to have major operations in the Gulf and Sea of Oman. and finally be able to build a fleet with an operation in the Indian Ocean. This requires as 2035 (Armada military planning from 2010 to 2035)

Iraq’s navy will only be fast attack craft, maybe corvettes carrying naval helicopters, seamines and anti ship missiles from the air force.
 
No.

You suggest using heavy to bomb the unseen and little, using a B52 to target a few people in the desert is idiotic, costs a fortune, that aircraft is for mass bombardment and the F16 is good for heavy bombardment, the airplane flies too fast anyway and operational cost is too high for such unimportant missions.

what cost? with all the corruption we have its good to see money spend saving peoples life and not fill the pockets of theifs
 
I’m just telling you what each military on earth does, your saying the opposite
@Doritos11 take it easy man our brother @1000and1night has no clue about arms and weapons but I got what he means. anyway it's not a big deal he means fighters like F-16 can do the job while something like that made for regular armies which is not what we face in Iraq.

Bro 1000and1night. we need many of these.

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and these. little choppers they're fast, agile and lethal with their abilty to carry few troopers to where they suppose to be in a hurry look how they use them ahhhh where is our guys in the MoD.

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and too.

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are we any better or dumber?

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also here.

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here is another one armed.

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Now fully armed as bad as the apachey the 200 million $. Don't get me wrong nothing like the apachey but these are the answer to the terrorist fast and capable.

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by the way Korean army have 200 of these. 200 they would cost us 1 billion but we would be able to transport our troops fast to where the terrorist's at this way they cant hit and run like always we can use them for scouting day and night.
 
Didn’t calculate or anything.

But we’re just mentioning random things, DJ on the other forum keeps track on all thats needed for each squadron/brigade.
Now this from wikipedea: Boeing funded the development program itself; it intends to market the aircraft for both military and homeland security roles within the U.S. and internationally.[5] The aircraft is estimated to cost US$2 million.

it says 2 million which is not bad I more than doubled the cost for weapons, trainig and spare parts. Plus this the cost of the AH-6 the recce and armed one but the lifting one with no expensive equipment it should way cheaper than the two million one.
 

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