The Indian Islam - Deen i Ilahi

[ranjeet]

Assad is a secular terrorist dictator for instance.
Same in Egypt.
Iran and Iraq are engulfed into fassadi politics.

Conflicts are temporary. Without external influence (read US), peace would have returned long back.

When did this sectarian war started? how you define temporary and how long this temporary phase is supposed to last?

 

[AfrazulMandal]

When did this sectarian war started? how you define temporary and how long this temporary phase is supposed to last?

1. Politics
2. The Islamic bloc can be a superpower. Today's powers have an interest in keeping us divided as a result. And I am including India in this. Once the hegemony of the current powers reduce, peace won't be long.

 

[El Sidd]

Ok but he was against Khilafat movement right?

Yes you can interpret that from evidence at Hand after 90 years

 

[Brahmanic]

I find it fascinating.

1)What is the logic between exclusivity?

2)And how do you exercise the True knowledge ?

3)Does it bring you Peace or Power?

Thank you.

1) its simple. Blood, Faith and Religion.

Blood is your Ethnicity, Tribe and Lineage.

Faith is your Belif in God or Multiple gods

Religion is Teaching Reveled to you by the lord and Rituals of worship of True God.

all 3 things listed above makes us a Distinct Ethnicity, Nation or Ethno-Religious Group who form just 1% to 0.5% of South Asia that is different from all other people.

we are Rig Vedic people who worship the Rig Vedic God(s) with original Fire with rituals written in our Tribal Books (part of Rig veda) written by our ancestors 5000+ years ago.

in short we are Daddy of Hinduism, Jainaism, Buddhism, sikhism and many Religions of East Asia.

2) 5000 years later we are still here worshiping him when almost all other communities of that time got extinct.

3) everything. since i have left Hinduism for original Faith of us gods is showing me his mercy.

 

[El Sidd]

Thank you.

1) its simple. Blood, Faith and Religion.

Blood is your Ethnicity, Tribe and Lineage.

Faith is your Belif in God or Multiple gods

Religion is Teaching Reveled to you by the lord and Rituals of worship of True God.

all 3 things listed above makes us a Distinct Ethnicity, Nation or Ethno-Religious Group who form just 1% to 0.5% of South Asia that is different from all other people.

we are Rig Vedic people who worship the Rig Vedic God(s) with original Fire with rituals written in our Tribal Books (part of Rig veda) written by our ancestors 5000+ years ago.

in short we are Daddy of Hinduism, Jainaism, Buddhism, sikhism and many Religions of East Asia.

2) 5000 years later we are still here worshiping him when almost all other communities of that time got extinct.

3) everything. since i have left Hinduism for original Faith of us gods is showing me his mercy.

So your people laid down the last Status Quo in India?

Nice to meet You. A pleasure indeed.

 

[ranjeet]

Yes. But he did a course correction. Not that I support him entirely. Had we been a united country, we would have been far more powerful and with a comfortable 40 to 45% Muslim population - effectively ruling this country and ensuring stability in the entire SA and SEA.

Yeah countries with 99% Muslim population in ME are having trouble to ensure peace and stability but you guys would have made that happen. No wonder why congress kept you guys illiterate and ignorant for 70 years.

 

[Brahmanic]

So your people laid down the last Status Quo in India?

Nice to meet You. A pleasure indeed.

India ?

Asia.

This is the Result of 6 original Rig Vedic Tribes/Gods chosen people.

pleasure is mine.

 

[El Sidd]

India ?

Asia.

This is the Result of 6 original Rig Vedic Tribes/Gods chosen people.

pleasure is mine.

The red part placed as the birthmark.

Whats the terrain like?

And climate.

Any Rivers? Mountain? Or natural springs?

 

[Brahmanic]

The red part placed as the birthmark.

Whats the terrain like?

And climate.

Any Rivers? Mountain? Or natural springs?

1)

do you really think that "uggaboogas" or "Chaptas" of that region Created this beautiful Religion ? (no disrespect)

the Prophet Buddhas name is Sidhartha "Gautama". Gautama is 4th Original Rig Vedic Tribe out of 6.

Vedic Gods Chosen people = Gautama, Vishwamitra, Angirasa, Vashistha, Bhrigu and Bhradwaja.

Iranic Warriors = yusufzai, Afridi, Bangesh, Panni, kakar, Ghilzai.

"Indo-Iranian".

2)

its flat land of of former Panchala Colony. part of densely populated Indo-Gengatic Region.

3)

no mountain but plenty of Rivers.

Koshi, Ganga, Yamuna etc. koshi is very disliked for changing her stream every other decade and flooding entire Southern Nepal, UP, MP and Bihar.

its 12 33 where i live at night and i am sweating like a wet towel.

 

[El Sidd]

1)

do you really think that "uggaboogas" or "Chaptas" of that region Created this beautiful Religion ? (no disrespect)

the Prophet Buddhas name is Sidhartha "Gautama". Gautama is 4th Original Rig Vedic Tribe out of 6.

Vedic Gods Chosen people = Gautama, Vishwamitra, Angirasa, Vashistha, Bhrigu and Bhradwaja.

Iranic Warriors = yusufzai, Afridi, Bangesh, Panni, kakar, Ghilzai.

"Indo-Iranian".

2)

its flat land of of former Panchala Colony. part of densely populated Indo-Gengatic Region.

3)

no mountain but plenty of Rivers.

Koshi, Ganga, Yamuna etc. koshi is very disliked for changing her stream every other decade and flooding entire Southern Nepal, UP, MP and Bihar.

its 12 33 where i live at night and i am sweating like a wet towel.

Captivating to say the least.

I wanted to ask because of nature. I still havent pin pointed the region though. Google places panchala everywhere.

Furthermore if i may ask

Did God reveal himself or People seeked god. The Original 6 elders of the tribes

 

[Brahmanic]

Captivating to say the least.

I wanted to ask because of nature. I still havent pin pointed the region though. Google places panchala everywhere.

Furthermore if i may ask

Did God reveal himself or People seeked god. The Original 6 elders of the tribes

Your English is Very Good i must say. Maybe holding regular conversation with you can improve my feeble vocabulary.

Tricky question. In Rig vedas my tribal book we (Vishwamitras) ask supreme Vedic God Indra (The Sun) and 32 other Gods(The Rays) to accept our fire sacrifice and come to our ceremony so that we can honor them.

But Iconography is prohibited in Rig Vedic religion as we can only worship Gods via Fire(Agni God, the ray and "brahmin god" - The god who accets sacrifice of Earthly Hotras and distribute among other 32 gods in indraloka)

Even though there is dualism like early zoroastrianism over 60 to 75% hymns of Rig veda are Denoted to Indra (The sky gkd not hindu god) and Agni.

There is a sloka in mandala 3 of rig veda (my clans book) thay says that

"Lord Indra is the creator who created the Mortal and immortal world, he created RTA(laws),he controls all wordly dimensions.

All other Deities are Part of Indra only, let us invoke Indra via Agni(Fire), meditate upon him and pray to him that he accept our sacrifice, bless this ceremony and shower us with all things a mortal desires."

I forgot the nuber of sloka vut i think it must be hymn 62 of book 3.

Book 3 is Tribal book of Vishwamitras.

 

[El Sidd]

Tricky question. In Rig vedas my tribal book we (Vishwamitras) ask supreme Vedic God Indra (The Sun) and 32 other Gods(The Rays) to accept our fire sacrifice and come to our ceremony so that we can honor them.

But Iconography is prohibited in Rig Vedic religion as we can only worship Gods via Fire(Agni God, the ray and "brahmin god" - The god who accets sacrifice of Earthly Hotras and distribute among other 32 gods in indraloka)

Do the rhyms speak of a Time? Like can we deduce When did the above mentioned event happened?

I understand its very hard to place the Time as humans understand it now. But any hint of periods?

I Met a wise Wanderer from Egypt who had a similar understanding of the Akhenaten "enlightenment" through the Sun God with 32 rays shining bringing knowledge "energy" from God

 

[Brahmanic]

Do the rhyms speak of a Time? Like can we deduce When did the above mentioned event happened?

I un

Sometimes.

In Mandala/Book 3 Vishwamitras asks Ravi and Bias Revers to Make the Way in the Name of Indra for the Bharatha King sudas who wanted to conquer India.

He also asks to bless the Horse of king sudas as a royal priest so that he can win the battle against Dayus.

Vishwamitras were Royal priestly clans of Bharata-Kuru Kshatriya Nation. Who were first to land into India and conquer north west after crossing the Ravi.


There is also a hymn in Book no 7 of Vasistha tribe.(our arch enemies but blood brothers)

Whole Hymn deals with detail of battle of 10 Aryan tribes. (google it)

But generally all hynns are prayers to gods.

 

[El Sidd]

Sometimes.

In Mandala/Book 3 Vishwamitras asks Ravi and Bias Revers to Make the Way in the Name of Indra for the Bharatha King sudas who wanted to conquer India.

He also asks to bless the Horse of king sudas as a royal priest so that he can win the battle against Dayus.

Vishwamitras were Royal priestly clans of Bharata-Kuru Kshatriya Nation. Who were first to land into India and conquer north west after crossing the Ravi.


There is also a hymn in Book no 7 of Vasistha tribe.(our arch enemies but blood brothers)

Whole Hymn deals with detail of battle of 10 Aryan tribes. (google it)

But generally all hynns are prayers to gods.

Please See complete post. I had a misplaced touch

Sometimes.

In Mandala/Book 3 Vishwamitras asks Ravi and Bias Revers to Make the Way in the Name of Indra for the Bharatha King sudas who wanted to conquer India.

He also asks to bless the Horse of king sudas as a royal priest so that he can win the battle against Dayus.

Vishwamitras were Royal priestly clans of Bharata-Kuru Kshatriya Nation. Who were first to land into India and conquer north west after crossing the Ravi.


There is also a hymn in Book no 7 of Vasistha tribe.(our arch enemies but blood brothers)

Whole Hymn deals with detail of battle of 10 Aryan tribes. (google it)

But generally all hynns are prayers to gods.

This Theme is similar to the judiasm tribal ideology and also the Persian King Cyrus and his horses.

You have certainly knowledge Wise being

 

[HariPrasad]

Islam is perfect.

Din e Ilahi is an adulterated product. It did not stand the test of time. And perhaps that was why the Mughal empire began to decline steadily henceforth. When even the kings become corrupt (Akbar in this case), what chance would ordinary Muslims have?


By any ideology. Especially now. In a couple of centuries Muslims will be the most powerful social and communal group in the world. There is no need for us to compromise on the ideals we hold dear.


Come on.

Think rationally.

Hinduism has no incentive.

Hindus are unable to build a temple in what they claim to be their own country. For centuries. What is the point of staying in a community that is divided so much, that is so weak? If it can't protect its own God/s, what chance do the people have?

These people have understood that their Gods are...lets say...not Gods. And hence they accepted Islam.

You see, God do not need protection because if god need protection than he is not God. Those who think that they can protect god are not protected by God and are killed worse than dogs world wide.