The Indian Islam - Deen i Ilahi

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

There is Islam and than everything else. Delusions of pharisees and false prophets will guide one astray. An Arab may die as diehard nationalist secular and in ajam one retains their faith. No one can be misguided lest it be the will of Almighty.

 

[El Sidd]

There is Islam and than everything else. Delusions of pharisees and false prophets will guide one astray. An Arab may die as diehard nationalist secular and in ajam one retains their faith. No one can be misguided lest it be the will of Almighty.

Dafuqs that suppose to mean

 

[Hamza913]

What do you mean?



Thanks for your guidence sir. I will not react.





Let me tell you a real beautiful story understanding of religions of by Indians. Grand pa of one my teacher Mr. Subramanian (i use to go for tution to him for my management accounting study). His grand pa had a friend who was a Christian priest. One day both were discussing GITA. Mr. Subramaniam said that the priest was not understanding Gita properly. On this issue, both indulged into a deep argument. Mr Subramaniam said that The priest is not understanding only Gita but he is not understanding bible as well. That hurt the ego of Christian priest. He asked Mr Subramaniam to prove it. Mr Subramaniam accepted the chellenge and both decided to give some exam conducted by Christian society (Something like that to check their knowledge. Both Gave the exam. The christian priest got second rank and Mr Subramaniam got some rank bellow 10. The priest accepted the defeat. He gave this certificate to my teacher when he was taking his last breath. Morale: Indian are always philosophers and has a great spiritual and religious knowledge and they do not need to study it.

I mean we will not allow Islam to be corrupted by any dharmic ideology.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Islam is perfect.

Din e Ilahi is an adulterated product. It did not stand the test of time. And perhaps that was why the Mughal empire began to decline steadily henceforth. When even the kings become corrupt (Akbar in this case), what chance would ordinary Muslims have?

I mean we will not allow Islam to be corrupted by any dharmic ideology.

By any ideology. Especially now. In a couple of centuries Muslims will be the most powerful social and communal group in the world. There is no need for us to compromise on the ideals we hold dear.

This is a soil where all ideology has flourished and given full freedom to evolve and expand. Here many ideologies are refined and evolved in much better form and shape. Islam got refined a lot under the influence of vedanta. Had this continued, Islam would have been spreading peace and brotherhood and we would not have been seeing what we see in the name of Islam today. This is the power of this soil which turn anything into gold to which it touches.

Come on.

Think rationally.

Hinduism has no incentive.

Hindus are unable to build a temple in what they claim to be their own country. For centuries. What is the point of staying in a community that is divided so much, that is so weak? If it can't protect its own God/s, what chance do the people have?

These people have understood that their Gods are...lets say...not Gods. And hence they accepted Islam.

 

[Brahmanic]

No such thing as Indian Islam as Islam is from Arabia.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

No such thing as Indian Islam as Islam is from Arabia.

True.

But it is for the whole universe.

 

[El Sidd]

No such thing as Indian Islam as Islam is from Arabia.

But is islam not an integral part of india as azad protested

 

[SecularNationalist]

Din e illahi may be offensive to present age hardcore muslims,hindus etc but it shows how secular india was prior to british invasion of the subcontinent.
All religious hatred and divisions based on religion started after 1857 and it continues even today.

 

[El Sidd]

Din e illahi may be offensive to present age hardcore muslims,hindus etc but it shows how secular india was prior to british invasion of the subcontinent.
All religious hatred and divisions based on religion started after 1857 and it continues even today.

Easy for you to say because the muslims were ruling India

 

[Brahmanic]

But is islam not an integral part of india as azad protested

True that. but not part of Indian civilization or Indo-Aryan civilization that we six Rig Vedic People/Tribes created.

 

[El Sidd]

True that. but not part of Indian civilization or Indo-Aryan civilization that we six Rig Vedic People/Tribes created.

Interesting.

Do you find the ideology of Islam as foreign or has it assimilated itself in the fabric of the society.

 

[ranjeet]

We have his birthday celebrated as National Education day in schools ... he is behind establishing the IITs in India one of the best Education minister we ever had ... I can rate him in league of Sir Syed (AMU) , Rabindernath tagore
(Shantiniketan) .... Univrsity grant commission started by him is still supervising the higher education in India(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Grants_Commission_(India))

He was awarded by the highest civilian award by Indian govt.

Azad was a religious bigot and a ummah lover ... excerpt from one of his speeches.

"If even a grain of the soul of Islam is alive among its followers, then I should say that if a thorn gets stuck in a Turk's sole in the battlefield of war, then I swear by the God of Islam, no Muslim of India can be a Muslim until he feels that prick in his heart instead of sole because the Millat-e-Islam (the global Muslim community) is a single body."

 

[El Sidd]

Azad was a religious bigot and a ummah lover ... excerpt from one of his speeches.

"If even a grain of the soul of Islam is alive among its followers, then I should say that if a thorn gets stuck in a Turk's sole in the battlefield of war, then I swear by the God of Islam, no Muslim of India can be a Muslim until he feels that prick in his heart instead of sole because the Millat-e-Islam (the global Muslim community) is a single body."

Can you please province Date of the recorded Event?

 

[ranjeet]

Can you please province Date of the recorded Event?

Here is the link.

"Excerpts from Maulana Azad's 1914 speech used in this article are translated from Urdu book Khutbat-e-Azad (Speeches of Azad), published in 2010 by Maktaba-e-Jamal, Lahore. The book is available in India."

https://www.firstpost.com/india/glo...bul-kalam-azad-my-defence-lawyer-2981062.html

This is a soil where all ideology has flourished and given full freedom to evolve and expand. Here many ideologies are refined and evolved in much better form and shape. Islam got refined a lot under the influence of vedanta. Had this continued, Islam would have been spreading peace and brotherhood and we would not have been seeing what we see in the name of Islam today. This is the power of this soil which turn anything into gold to which it touches.

Nope, don't agree with it at all. Ganga Jamuni tehzib overload in the post there.

Morale: Indian are always philosophers and has a great spiritual and religious knowledge and they do not need to study it.

You think inquistion was done through debates?

 

[Brahmanic]

Interesting.

Do you find the ideology of Islam as foreign or has it assimilated itself in the fabric of the society.

as a member of Gods Chosen of Vedic Aryans people i find Islam is as foreign as Jewish Religion is.