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The Indian Air Force continues to underperform.

*Bears.

Indeed, it does. Including the previous war in which PAF did not dare to even present itself.

Bro, you are wasting your time, but the Pakistanis never going to understand that.

In many threads I said this,this is a great self condolence for Pakistanis that they won certain air battles in a certain/very limited AO, even those battle not able to change positions tactically leave alone strategically. But still they take pride of that.

You cant stop this, let them take this foolish pride.
 
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According to yourr people, we have responded in kind, by supporting similar acts in your country. Pakistan has had several 26/11s since then, while India has not. You can't have the cake and eat it too - on the one hand accuse India for all your internal strife, and on the other, say that India has not been able to retaliate for the terrorist act by Pakistanis.

Yup, i guess the bodos massacring the north east doesn't count. Job well done!

RIP Indian Logic
 
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Devastation of Pathankot

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These are not testimonies. You should stop seeing Indian channels where you get your history lessons

And how exactly did it help you to capture J&K in 1965?

OH I just took a look at the map....

You guys are ridiculous. Frantically trying to glorify the PAF while totally forgetting the actual outcome of the wars :lol:

Yup, history like in Pathankot, Kalaikunda, Ambala.....since we are talking about airforce, i will not mention Chahmb, Mukerian and few others.

Same goes for this analyst...
 
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The orginal title of the article = Indian Air Force Still Plagued by Poor Procurement Process

Doctored title by the OP = The Indian Air Force continues to underperform.

One can only laugh at the inferiority complex of these Pakistanis ..... :lol:
 
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The orginal title of the article = Indian Air Force Still Plagued by Poor Procurement Process

Doctored title by the OP = The Indian Air Force continues to underperform.

One can only laugh at the inferiority complex of these Pakistanis ..... :lol:
Idiocy has no limits when Indians find excuses to escape from reality, for it would help if they would sometimes utilise the grey matter, but then some are just on a imaginary high horse albeit they spend all day on a Pakistani forum......Just a click of a button would enlighten these gloating idiots that it's all part of the same title.
Indian Air Force Still Plagued by Poor Procurement Process
The Indian Air Force (IAF) continues to underperform.

2008 air alert
After the 2008 Mumbai attacks, PAF was put on high alert. It deployed to all its wartime locations and started combat air patrols. The speed and intensity of the deployment and PAF's readiness took the Indian Army High Command by surprise and later reports suggest was the main factor in the Indian decision of not going for cross border raids inside Pakistan.[44][45]Pakistani press reported issuance of a PAF Standing Order to launch an immediate counterattack in case of an air attack from India, after Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee threatened Pakistani President.[44][45]
 
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Idiocy has no limits when Indians find excuses to escape from reality

The reality that you wanted to create to once again start these nonsense blame games. That's why you didn't used the original titel of the article, which talks about the procurement process and shows your cheap intend.

According to the forum rules:

TROLLING
Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of the forum community. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not convey a friendly attitude.
 
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The reality that you wanted to create to once again start these nonsense blame games. That's why you didn't used the original titel of the article, which talks about the procurement process and shows your cheap intend.

According to the forum rules:
Pause......take a breather......have a glass of cold water......breath........pause .....click on the link......if the said title doesn't appear than i will slowly read the forum rules......thank you.
 
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And when it was really needed in 2001/2008, IAF could do absolutely nothing.

This sentiment by Pakistanis always makes me chuckle, a nation choosing not to engage in violence and aggression that has the potential to escalate into a nuclear weapon exchange leading to the mass slaughtering of millions of innocents is a sign of weakness? Great logic.... I guess you don't know mature leadership when it is demonstrated :coffee:
 
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Pause......take a breather......have a glass of cold water......breath........pause .....click on the link......if the said title doesn't appear than i will slowly read the forum rules......thank you.

It's not your ability to read that I question, but your obvious attitude to troll and you can't hide your intend behind the article!
 
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IAF is Still the BAAP of all South Asian Air forces


combined

as long as they dont have to prove it

This sentiment by Pakistanis always makes me chuckle, a nation choosing not to engage in violence and aggression that has the potential to escalate into a nuclear weapon exchange leading to the mass slaughtering of millions of innocents is a sign of weakness? Great logic.... I guess you don't know mature leadership when it is demonstrated :coffee:

are we talking about the same nation whose people were chest thumping few months back about how Indian are killing Pakistani civilian across the border by heavy shelling
 
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are we talking about the same nation whose people were chest thumping few months back about how Indian are killing Pakistani civilian across the border by heavy shelling
I don't think anyone was celebrating the deaths of civilians. But on the other hand I do think many Indians agreed with the directive from the new GoI to give as good as they got from the Pakistani side who were known to carry out this kind of shelling in order to infiltrate terrorists into India.

You won't agree with me, don't feel the need to reply to me. This is all very off topic.


@Topic, yes the IAF has an issue with its procurements on some fronts (LUH and Rafale) but there are also some notable success (Mi-17 V5, C-17, C-130J-30, ALH,MKI etc). The IAF despite all its issues is STILL the undisputed king of the skies in S.Asia and this will only be compounded as the procurement issues address themselves in the coming years....
 
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Indian Air Force Still Plagued by Poor Procurement Process
The Indian Air Force (IAF) continues to underperform.

“The Indian Air Force’s capabilities are continuing to deteriorate, despite the arrival of a government that seems ready to make big acquisition decisions,” summarizes a recently published Jane’s Defence Weekly briefing on the current state of the Indian Air Force (IAF). Among aviation experts, the IAF has been notorious for its high accident rate in its MIG-21 fleet. For the last few years, it has also been suffering from a shortfall in the number of trained pilots. In addition, the number of combat squadrons has fallen to 34 despite an authorized goal of 42.

The report quotes a previous IHS Jane’s World Air Forces from 2006, which states that the IAF is “a competent, technology-intensive service” yet also, “in a state of flux, and force structure decision-making is complicated by politics, sensitivity to past corruption in procurement projects, conflicting budget priorities, continuing problems with indigenous systems [and] bureaucratic delays in tendering processes.” In 2015, the situation does not seem to have changed too much. According to an internal IAF assessment obtained by IHS Jane’s, the operational availability of the force for the previous three years was on average as low as 60 percent.

The IHS Jane’s report notes that the future capabilities of the IAF are subject to the Modi government’s approach to procurement. “The early signs are that Modi’s MoD will adopt a hybrid policy, encouraging local development but with foreign help.” The success of this partnership approach remains to be been as progress has been slow and mixed, despite the new government’s decision to raise the cap on foreign direct investments, as well the pledge of Indian Finance Minister Arun Jaitley towards a more “pragmatic approach” when dealing with foreign firms and joint-ventures.

Yet, for example, India and France are still at loggerheads over a $20 billion deal for the local in-license production of 126 Rafale fighter jets in Bengaluru. France’s Dassault Aviation argues that it cannot take responsibility for the production of the aircraft since it has no control and oversight over the production facilities. However, the French defense contractor has pledged to help Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd stick to the delivery schedules. The Indian government will in all likelihood have to make a decision before Indian Prime Minister’s Modi’s scheduled visit to Germany and France in April of this year.

The media also reported reported that India will start developing its own fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), the advanced medium combat aircraft (AMCA), this year, and is also eager to purchase Israeli air-to-air missiles. New Delhi also wants to develop its first domestically produced military transport cargo plane. This, however, as Defense News recently reported, has run into various obstacles. It appears that what the former Army Chief V.K. Singh said two years ago still holds true: “The procurement game is a version of snakes and ladders where there is no ladder but only snakes, and if the snakes bite you somewhere, the whole thing comes back to zero.”

Indian Air Force Still Plagued by Poor Procurement Process | The Diplomat

Hey Munshi, another one to add to your list.
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was it your thread about pak obession with india.. but you prove oherwise..
a typical doubel standrads... nice .. hisotry repete itslef .. do it
best of luck
 
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