The Greatest Islamic Empire - Ones that brought Islam to Pakistan Genghis K

[500]

I'm confused about the realtion of the Mongol empire and the Mughal empire,they were too different almost in any aspects.

Almost no relation. Mughals had some Mongol blood, but culturte and language they were Turkic. Later they had great Indian influence.

Its like calling Richard the Lion Heart a "viking", since his ancestors were viking invaders.

 

[northeast]

Chengiz khan killed many muslims (more than chinese),and insult islam very bad in the war.

 

[Tamizhan]

Amazing logics: you support mass murderer of Muslims because one of his grandgrandgrandsons adopted Islam.

Welcome to the club.

Still we Indians are confused why Pakistanis idolize and glorify mass murderers, invaders like Abdali, Ghaznavi etc who murdered more people in modern day Pakistan (the ancestors of modern day Pakistanis) than in India.

Almost no relation. Mughals had some Mongol blood, but culturte and language they were Turkic. Later they had great Indian influence.
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They were Turko-Mongols. Babar was a descendent of Genghis from his maternal side. But after Babur all the others were highly Persianized.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

We Pakistanis should understand that, yes, Genghis had some very bad traits within him (and God is the judge of that), but also consider positive facts about him.

- He never allowed idols or worship of himself.

- He was tolerant of all religions.

- He adopted Islam as the state religion of the Mongol empire.

- If not for him, we would be a semi-Buddhist semi-Hindu semi-Islam nation.

I think u r dreaming...
He never adopted Islam as state religion,... Hell he hated Islam...
He sent his brother Hulagu to destroy the Islamic caliphate in baghdad, who successfully finished the job...
If genghis khan hadnt died at that time, hulagu would have killed all islam empire and its people...
So know about the topic more...
A name of KHAN doesnt make anybody muslim... even christians and hindus have khan surnames... Heard of oliver kahn n dominique strauss khan?
And last, He didnt have anything to do with pakistan being a islamic nation....
Its cos of rulers of the east, under the sword and sufi saints, pakistan had become islamic majority country..
And ur semi-hindu, semi buddhist theory is flawed...
Even during independence Sind and karachi and lahore had many hindu and sikh population, they nearly made up to 30pc of population...
But now 2 % /...

Everyone respect the stronger ones,only indians like weaklings.

Turks were dogs of mongols in that time,in jochi ulus,only thousands of real mongols ruler class,other soldiers were all turks.

It proves from ur post, that u love ur foreign invaders, who ransacked peking in the opium war

 

[roshangjha]

Everyone respect the stronger ones,only indians like weaklings.

Turks were dogs of mongols in that time,in jochi ulus,only thousands of real mongols ruler class,other soldiers were all turks.

Well, the weaklings converted under pressure from invaders and are now calling themselves the torch-bearers of the religion of their invaders.

The strong ones on the other hand stuck with their religion despite being persecuted, raped, and murdured for conversion. They are now the residents of a proud Powerful country known as INDIA.

 

[FullMetalJacket]

Well, the weaklings converted under pressure from invaders and are now calling themselves the torch-bearers of the religion of their invaders.

The strong ones on the other hand stuck with their religion despite being persecuted, raped, and murdured for conversion. They are now the residents of a proud Powerful country known as INDIA.

Couldn't have said it better myself

 

[kalu_miah]

Khan and Jewish Kahn is not the same:
Kahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Khan (title) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[roshangjha]

We Pakistanis should understand that, yes, Genghis had some very bad traits within him (and God is the judge of that), but also consider positive facts about him.

- He never allowed idols or worship of himself.

- He was tolerant of all religions.

- He adopted Islam as the state religion of the Mongol empire.

- If not for him, we would be a semi-Buddhist semi-Hindu semi-Islam nation.

Though this is not true, how would being a semi-Buddhist, semi-Hindu, semi-Islam nations (actually you would have been Hindu majority if not for the sword rulers and sufi saints) harmed you? And how is this a POSITIVE trait of Genghis khan?

 

[kalu_miah]

Almost no relation. Mughals had some Mongol blood, but culturte and language they were Turkic. Later they had great Indian influence.

Its like calling Richard the Lion Heart a "viking", since his ancestors were viking invaders.

By the same token we could say current Jewish people had almost no relation to their ancestors in Kingdom of Israel, no?

 

[Tractor]

Everyone respect the stronger ones,only indians like weaklings.

Turks were dogs of mongols in that time,in jochi ulus,only thousands of real mongols ruler class,other soldiers were all turks.

I doubt it is real that everyone as you said respect the stronger ones by whom they were humiliated.
Turks were turks and mongols were mongols,they were all warriors with bravery fought on behalf of themselves respectively on different battlegrounds.

 

[kalu_miah]

A book that describes how Chingis Khan influenced the making of the Muslim world:
Amazon.com: Chinggis Khan (Makers Of The Muslim World) (9781851685028): Michal Biran: Books

Chinggis Khan's descendants and their genetics:
“Descendant of Genghis Khan” sequenced | Gene Expression | Discover Magazine
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan | Gene Expression | Discover Magazine

Legacy of Chinggis Khan in law:
The Legacy of Genghis Khan in Law and Politics

 

[Juice]

Everyone respect the stronger ones,only indians like weaklings.

Turks were dogs of mongols in that time,in jochi ulus,only thousands of real mongols ruler class,other soldiers were all turks.

Not Asian myself, but I would postulate that far from liking weaklings, those in the sub-continent who didn't bow down and convert before invaders aren't the weaklings...

 

[Tractor]

How to identify Genghis Khan's descendants,by floating eyelids?

 

[northeast]

I doubt it is real that everyone as you said respect the stronger ones by whom they were humiliated.
Turks were turks and mongols were mongols,they were all warriors with bravery fought on behalf of themselves respectively on different battlegrounds.

I didn't say that we should respect who humiliate us.
I said that we respect who are strong.
And turks were the dogs of mongols in that time,why deny it?

 

[500]

By the same token we could say current Jewish people had almost no relation to their ancestors in Kingdom of Israel, no?

Thats not true. Jews are both genetically and culturaly related:

The Jews (black triangles): Ashkenazim (Ash), (Rom) ,North African Jews (Naf), Near Eastern Jews (Nea), Kurdish Jews (Kur), Yemenite Jews (Yem), Ethiopian Jews (EtJ)

The non-Jewish Middle Eastern (black squares): Palestinians (Pal), Syrians (Syr), Lebanese (Leb), Israeli Druze (Dru), Saudi Arabians (Sar).

The remaining (white circles): Russians (Rus), British (Bri), Germans (Ger), Austrians (Aus), Italians (Ita), Spanish (Spa), Greeks (Gre), Tunisians (Tun), Egyptians (Egy), Ethiopians (Eth), Gambians (Gam), Biaka (Bia), Bagandans (Bag), San (San), Zulu (Zul), Turks (Tur), Lemba (Lem).

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