The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)

[Viet]

So sorry i wasn't trying to impress you nor anyone, just stating FACTS. Do you understand the difference between bragging and facts? You see unlike you i don't talk crap. I remember there are times you brag about Vietnam capable of defeating the PLA and sometimes you would say Vietnam won't stand a chance against China. Make up your goddamn mind how strong is your pathetic Vietnam compared to the PLA. Make a list of your damn Airforce,Army and Navy and compare with the PLA. It looks very very depressing on your side. So i suggest you buzz of and keep your so called supa powa Vietnam to your Vietnam military thread instead of promoting crap here. OH so what happened to the AB destroyers USA was supposed to give to Vietnam for FREE according to your begging? 2-3 years has already passed and i still don't see VN having any destroyers

At least the Indians already know when to STFU now about their Navy. Few years back they were still talking crap about PLAN and how Indian Navy is ahead of us. We are militarizing the islands in SCS, we are expanding it. You see your papa USA doing anything about it? They are even too SCARED to ignite another Korean War and Kim keeps on testing Nukes. Keep on whining as China's military power is growing by the minute as we speak.

Stop empty bragging and show me Chinese military power. The Manchuria awaits you to liberate from Russia!

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Stop empty bragging and show me Chinese military power. The Manchuria awaits you to liberate from Russia!

You never finish high school, do you?

 

[terranMarine]

Stop empty bragging and show me Chinese military power. The Manchuria awaits you to liberate from Russia!

Pretending to be strong when you are NOT is acting like a

This is Vietnam

And it will be flatten by this

 

[Beast]

Stop empty bragging and show me Chinese military power. The Manchuria awaits you to liberate from Russia!

I will report yr trolling @Shotgunner51

 

[Shotgunner51]

Thread locked for checking, please wait.

Edit: Thread now re-open. @Viet @terranMarine both of you please calm down, get back to topic, thanks!

 

[cochine]

The "Rebalance to Asia" policy was declared in 2011 (Obama's speech in Australian parliament and Clinton's article in Foreign Affairs.) China's island development program started in 2013.

According to the law of causality, China's island development program cannot be the cause of the "Pivot."

China signed in to UNCLOS but after China submitted a map to the UN UNCLOS including the nine-dash lines territorial claim in the South China Sea on 7 May 2009.

Its clear evidence for the expansionism of China in SCS

 

[TaiShang]

5th China-Eurasia Expo held in Urumqi
(Xinhua) Updated: 2016-09-24



Performers dance at the Belarus pavilion during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Xinjiang autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]


A visitor watches the making of Hotan carpet during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Xinjiang autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]


An exhibitor (R) drinks wine at Georgia pavilion during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]


An exhibitor (R) shows the craftwork to visitors at Kenya pavilion during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Xinjiang autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]


Visitors try the "dark tea" from China's Hunan Province during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Xinjiang autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]


Visitors watch carpets at Iran pavilion during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Xinjiang autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]


Visitors are seen beside porcelain works from China's Jiangxi province during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Uygur autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]


A visitor knows about vehicles of Foton during the 5th China-Eurasia Expo in Urumqi, capital of Northwest China's Xinjiang autonomous region, Sept 22, 2016. Starting from Sept 20, more than 2,000 Chinese and foreign companies, delegates from 57 countries and regions, and six global organizations are participating in the six-day fair held in the regional capital of Urumqi. [Photo/Xinhua]

 

[TaiShang]

China signed in to UNCLOS but after China submitted a map to the UN UNCLOS including the nine-dash lines territorial claim in the South China Sea on 7 May 2009.

Its clear evidence for the expansionism of China in SCS

UNCLOS has nothing to do with the nine (or 10) dashed line. One is about the management if sea resources. The other is about sovereignty.

 

[TaiShang]

Xi'an holds Int'l Seminar on the Belt and Road Initiative
By Chen Boyuan
China.org.cn, September 26, 2016
More than 300 guests from 35 countries gathered in Xi'an to attend the International Seminar on the Belt and Road Initiative, which opened on Sept. 26. The seminar, whose theme is "Shared Memory, Common Development," seeks to explore cooperation opportunities after this strategic initiative was proposed three years ago.

More than 300 guests from 35 countries gathered in Xi'an to attend the International Seminar on the Belt and Road Initiative, under the theme of "Shared Memory, Common Development," which opened on Sept. 26.[Photo/China.com.cn by Lun Xiaoxuan]

The initiative has been met with a strong response from the international community and particularly from countries along the Belt and Road, arousing enthusiasm and interest in many countries to explore and participate in the initiative.

At the seminar's opening ceremony, Liu Qibao, member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and Head of the Publicity Department of the CPC Central Committee, said that the seminar's theme "embodies our efforts to treasure historical legacy, our wishes for the common prosperity of countries along the routes and acknowledges our responsibility to world peace and development."

China has signed cooperative agreements with more than 30 countries and launched manufacturing and production capacity cooperation with more than 20 countries along the routes, said Liu.

"We should note that the outcomes in terms of speed and scale of the Belt and Road Initiative have been better than expected. Now, we have a clearer vision of the prospects of this initiative and are more confident in accomplishing it," he said.

A previous international seminar on the Silk Road Economic Belt was held in Urumqi in 2014.

Xi'an is the birthplace of Chinese civilization and also the starting point of the ancient Silk Road.

This year's seminar will feature panel sessions with members from think tanks, the media and businesses.

 

[cochine]

UNCLOS has nothing to do with the nine (or 10) dashed line. One is about the management if sea resources. The other is about sovereignty.

you can say what you want to say here, claim of China is illegal, so why china denied to join with Philippine to the court for arbitration in Hagge. China would like to use muscle-force to solve this dispute.

so why I said that expansionism of China is a reason for US turn back to Asia with asia pivot.

 

[terranMarine]

you can say what you want to say here, claim of China is illegal, so why china denied to join with Philippine to the court for arbitration in Hagge. China would like to use muscle-force to solve this dispute.

so why I said that expansionism of China is a reason for US turn back to Asia with asia pivot.

First of all it's The Hague, you might look it up before you show off your English skills

Secondly your constant cries of illegal this illegal that won't gain you any support or sympathy from PDF members or any one reading this for the matter. China got support from 60-70 countries after the ruling whereas Philippines can only enjoy a handful of support. From that moment on you guys can forget about claiming the world is supporting the Pinoys or Viets

Thirdly, US pivot to Asia is not a reactionary response to China's island construction you simpleton. It's a grand scheme masking a secretive hidden agenda.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Kazakhstan’s Nurly Zhol and China’s Economic Belt of the Silk Road: Confluence of Goals
By Sanat Kushkumbayev in Opinions on 22 September 2015

Modern Kazakhstan, located in the central part of Eurasia, is a transit link in the system of multilevel interconnections of Asia and Europe. It is known that the internal development and availability of international transport arteries are essential ingredients to the economic and political independence of states. For Kazakhstan and other Central Asian countries since independence, the role of international transport communications has been and remains significant.

The draft economic Belt of the Silk Road (EBSR) and the Nurly Zhol state programme both were announced in the capital of Kazakhstan. It is symbolic that Chinese President Xi Jinping first announced this initiative to the international community in September 2013 in Astana. The concept is based on five principles: political convergence, communication infrastructure, free trade, circulation of capital and the rapprochement of peoples.

Announced by President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev in November 2014, the Nurly Zhol new economic policy largely corresponds with the plans for the development of EBSR. Launched into operation in recent years, sections of the international highway Western China – Western Europe, as well as the Kazakhstan-Turkmenistan-Iran-Persian Gulf railway, can be an organic part of the modern Silk Road routes.​

The Nurly Zhol programme is directed at integrated continuation of the course of reforms in the economy. To this end, Kazakhstan conducted a large-scale programme of modernisation of transport assets, which covers all modes of transport.​

Until 2020, it is planned to implement projects with a total investment of about $40 billion. Until the end of 2015, it is planned to attract $5 billion from four leading international banks for the construction of roads in the Centre – South, Centre – East and Center – West directions. This is how the task set in Nurly Zhol of connecting the capital with major regions on the radiation principle will be implemented.

2015 was especially fruitful for Kazakh-Chinese relations. President of China Xi Jinping at the time of his visit to Astana in May, noted, “Currently, China and Kazakhstan have achieved initial results towards the formation of the belt and the Chinese side appreciates this fact. China intends to promote the convergence of the formation of the economic zone of the Silk Road with the Kazakhstan’s Nurly Zhol programme.

“Both countries should continue to implement large-scale joint projects in the spheres of infrastructure and transport and communication of interconnectedness to promote cooperation in the field of energy and finance, to deepen relations in the humanitarian sphere, to continue to strengthen the partnership for security,”

said Xi Jinping.​

The state visit of the President of Kazakhstan to China in early September gave a new impetus to bilateral cooperation and in particular the further interaction of Kazakhstan’s Nurly Zhol and the Chinese initiative of the Economic Belt of the Silk Road. A joint declaration on a new stage of comprehensive strategic partnership, adopted by the two leaders, secured the long-term perspective.

Kazakhstan’s competitiveness depends not only on the development of transit potential, but also on the level of development of national transport and communications infrastructure. Cooperation with China, having rich experience in this field is attractive for Kazakhstan.

• The planned construction of the Big Almaty Ring Road near Almaty will exceed 100 km and will be built funded by Chinese investment.
• Infrastructure facilities such as the Almaty – Ust-Kamenogorsk road, the road to the border with China to the Alashankou station and several others will be implemented through the investment from China.
• The loan agreement between JSC Astana LRT and the State Development Bank of China was signed.
• Light rail transit will be built in the capital of Kazakhstan and the creation of a system of high-speed BRT buses will be subsidised.
• Chinese partners are planning to invest $600 million over five years in the development of the logistics and the creation of industrial special economic zone at Khorgos-Eastern Eate.
• The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank is the driver of these and other projects with capital of $100 billion along with the Silk Road Fund with $40 billion.
• For the purpose of industrial development in Kazakhstan, the Bank of China is ready to allocate $5 billion through the Baiterek holding.
• Moreover, investments are expected in Kazakhstan from the Silk Road Funds and also the largest investment corporation, CITIC Group.
• In addition, the Samruk Kazyna Sovereign Wealth Fund has signed with Chinese companies agreements in the spheres of transport, energy, nuclear, metallurgical and chemicals totaling $5.1 billion.
• Kazakhstan welcomes Chinese investment in non-primary sectors of the economy. In the framework of the signed new contracts, joint ventures will be created in the manufacturing and agriculture sectors (cement, glass, food industry) on the territory of Kazakhstan. These ventures involve dozens of companies and billions of dollars in contracts.
• With regard to the implementation of projects with partners from China, Kazakhstan has formed a volume of 100 container trains from the port of Lianyungang to Central Asia. This new volume has never been on the railroad. EBSR has become an open platform for economic cooperation between the Eurasian Economic Union and the Asia-Pacific region.

With a gradual shift of the global economic centre towards the Asia-Pacific region, relations between Europe and East Asia will take a leading role. The dynamic development of these ties is currently channeled through ASEM (Asia-Europe Meeting) institution with regular meetings of leaders of Asia-Pacific countries and the EU. Kazakhstan’s accession to the World Trade Organisation and the introduction of international standards for the movement of goods across borders should have a significant impact on the development of transport infrastructure of the region.

The author is deputy director of the Kazakhstan Institute of Strategic Studies under the President of Kazakhstan.

http://astanatimes.com/2015/09/kaza...ic-belt-of-the-silk-road-confluence-of-goals/

 

[cochine]

First of all it's The Hague, you might look it up before you show off your English skills

Secondly your constant cries of illegal this illegal that won't gain you any support or sympathy from PDF members or any one reading this for the matter. China got support from 60-70 countries after the ruling whereas Philippines can only enjoy a handful of support. From that moment on you guys can forget about claiming the world is supporting the Pinoys or Viets

Thirdly, US pivot to Asia is not a reactionary response to China's island construction you simpleton. It's a grand scheme masking a secretive hidden agenda.

Its my Vietenglish. You can understand or not, I don't care.

There is 60 to 70 country ? your number is not correct, can you show list the name of such countries here ?.

USA asia pivot is not secret aganda. Its clear that Uncle Sam doesn't let China to be master who could dominated in East and South East Asia, geopolictially.

 

[Pinoy]

26 September 2016

By AFP

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte said Monday he would seek closer economic ties with China and Russia, as the local currency and stock market extended declines following Western criticism of his deadly war on crime.

The peso hit a seven-year low to the dollar on Monday and foreign investors pulled out from local shares for a 23rd straight day, which analysts said was due to growing uncertainty over Duterte's handling of what has been one of Asia's best-performing economies in recent years.

"I will open trade alliances with Russia and China so all you other investors, just go. No problem," Duterte said in a speech at the presidential palace.

Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte has attracted widespread criticism from Western governments and rights groups for a bloody crime crackdown ©Noel Celis (AFP/File)

Duterte has attracted widespread criticism from Western governments and rights groups for a bloody crime crackdown has that claimed more than 3,300 lives since he took office on June 30.

International credit rating agency Standard and Poor's warned last week Duterte's war on crime was threatening the Philippines' economy and endangering its democratic institutions.

It also said his unpredictable foreign policy and national security statements were other downsides that meant a credit upgrade for the Philippines was unlikely in the next two years.

Duterte has responded with abusive comments agains his critics over his war on crime, such as branding US President Barack Obama a "son of a whore" and UN chief Ban Ki-moon a "fool".

The Philippines, a former American colony, had up until Duterte been one of the United States' most loyal and enduring allies in Asia. The two nations are bound by a mutual defence treaty.

Duterte has repeatedly signalled he is looking to distance the Philippines from the United States, but his comments on Monday were his most explicit that he was planning to pivot towards US rivals China and Russia.

Duterte said he had already privately spoken with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, although it was impossible to immediately verify when the conversations had taken place.

On Monday the Philippine stock market fell 1.18 percent to close at 7,632.46 points.

"Global funds sold Philippine stocks for a 23rd straight day amid nervousness about the fallout from Duterte’s anti-drug war and his outbursts against the US and the United Nations," Bloomberg reported.

The local currency also fell 0.5 percent on Monday to 48.25 to the dollar, touching its lowest level since 2009.

"(The peso's decline is) mainly due to politics, with the Philippine president’s ongoing war on drug dealers and his intent to seem to alienate all of their major trading partners," Jeffrey Halley, a market strategist at Oanda Asia Pacific Pte in Singapore told Bloomberg.

The Filipino peso hit a seven-year low to the dollar on Monday and foreign investors pulled out from local shares for a 23rd straight day ©Jay Directo (AFP/File)

 

[艹艹艹]

It is said that the Americans want him to step down.