The General's son- To all members educate yourselves about Israel and Pales

[Masterio92]

 

[Black Widow]

Is he History professor??? Why do I trust him??




Miko Peled : Arundhati Roy of Israel..

 

[PteX]

Absolute rubbish.

"Kind david historically never existed" - Well then, there goes Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
Ignoring the fact that "Palestinians" never, ever, existed as a nation of people but rather as a a bunch of Arab nomad tribes residing in the land of modern Israel under Ottoman rule. Wait, this makes too much sense, so it will be hard to swallow by the likes of him.

 

[Masterio92]

If the existence of King David is the pretext of mass expulsion and ethnic-cleansing then certainly it’s a myth and lie. As a human being I abhor it if this character of King David is ever used as a tool to brutalize, loot and expel people from their land.

 

[Solomon2]

If the existence of King David is the pretext of mass expulsion and ethnic-cleansing then certainly it’s a myth and lie.

Do the majority of Pakistanis think like this, that if a fact clashes with a perception then the fact must be relegated to the realm of myth to preserve the perception?

Indeed, it isn't even such a clash here. Whether King David existed in history should have nothing to do with justifying the mass movements of peoples today.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Did someone say King David (Dawud) never existed?

 

[Masterio92]

Did someone say King David (Dawud) never existed?

Was he existed to the fact that centuries later it causes a huge expulsion?

 

[Masterio92]

Do the majority of Pakistanis think like this, that if a fact clashes with a perception then the fact must be relegated to the realm of myth to preserve the perception?

Indeed, it isn't even such a clash here. Whether King David existed in history should have nothing to do with justifying the mass movements of peoples today.

So you are justifying the mass expulsion of people on basis of King David ever existence on that land? or its me that your writing go above my head?

 

[Solomon2]

So you are justifying the mass expulsion of people on basis of King David ever existence on that land? or its me that your writing go above my head?

By the terms of the Treaty of Sevres and its successor the Mandate of Palestine, "close settlement" of Palestine by Jews was to be encouraged but nevertheless both Jews and Arabs were supposed to respect the civil and property rights of minorities in the lands that came under their political domination, as they were under the Ottomans. This obligation the Israelis kept - Israel is over 20% Arab - but the Arabs did not fulfill it either in their own lands or in Palestine - the Jews were tossed or made to flee, save for a few in Tunisia and Morocco, and entire Arab villages in Palestine participated in attacking Jewish settlements, or fled expecting Arab armies to win the victory for them.

When these Arabs in the Mandate committed or supported collective violence against Jews they forfeited their civil and property rights under the laws and practice of the Ottomans. Neither they nor their descendants have any legal rights to return. If it wasn't for the politics of the vastly larger number of Arabs focusing their anger on the peace-seeking Jews of Israel and the frightened fashionistas of the West seeking to accommodate them the legal case would have dominated the discussion long ago. link

 

[JonAsad]

Blasphemy- -

Blasphemy- -

 

[Masterio92]

By the terms of the Treaty of Sevres and its successor the Mandate of Palestine, "close settlement" of Palestine by Jews was to be encouraged but nevertheless both Jews and Arabs were supposed to respect the civil and property rights of minorities in the lands that came under their political domination, as they were under the Ottomans. This obligation the Israelis kept - Israel is over 20% Arab - but the Arabs did not fulfill it either in their own lands or in Palestine - the Jews were tossed or made to flee, save for a few in Tunisia and Morocco, and entire Arab villages in Palestine participated in attacking Jewish settlements, or fled expecting Arab armies to win the victory for them.

When these Arabs in the Mandate committed or supported collective violence against Jews they forfeited their civil and property rights under the laws and practice of the Ottomans. Neither they nor their descendants have any legal rights to return. If it wasn't for the politics of the vastly larger number of Arabs focusing their anger on the peace-seeking Jews of Israel and the frightened fashionistas of the West seeking to accommodate them the legal case would have dominated the discussion long ago. link

Mr.Miko has debunked and covered what you have written above under " the right of return of Jews" He has said others things too. His version is entirely different than yours. He has raised question for the right of return of Palestinians, which is not acceptable due to double standard.

 

[Masterio92]

Blasphemy- -

Blasphemy- -

lol .. its not blasphemy... God has never send King David to the people to discriminate.. I am sure He was all for noble cause .. not for violence. that was my point.

 

[Solomon2]

Mr.Miko has debunked and covered -

Has he debunked these matters by specific citations that can be fact-checked? Can he cite any laws and treaties superseding what I've indicated?

You probably already know the answers: he can't. There is a difference between what something is named, what it is called, and what it is. People need to keep this in mind.

 

[Solomon2]

I generally don't do videos, but for those of you who do, this prof will help you educate yourself:

Eugene Kontorovich: The Legal Case for Israel

 

[Masterio92]

I generally don't do videos, but for those of you who do, this prof will help you educate yourself:

Eugene Kontorovich: The Legal Case for Israel

We can slap each other with numerous videos and articles but it would hardly end the mess started since 1947. At least we can forward what we perceive as a right and wrong. I wish earlier reconciliation and a complete stoppage of racism, oppression and flouting of international law in that part of the world.