You don't even believe it yourself, do you, yes, the number is not always a deciding factor when your numbers are close, but not by a far cry, if the number is against you 10 to 1, then it will become a deciding factor. France won't bring US to a war cause it's just a US lapdog, US can bring France in a war like they did in Korea. When US runs away, France will be the first one to run, we all know that. We don't really care about lackey countries like France, Britain and Australia, have our sight only on their master, US, the the we fix US, there'll be no problems anymore. First economically and militarily the result will come with it.
I don't need to believe anything, what I quote is a fact, those battle that was ACTAULLY fought and the outcome is real.
10 to 1 really matter? Maybe, if you throw in the towel when you see 10 enemy ships when you are alone, not CMDR Evans when his destroyer charge 4 Japanese battleship. And that whole battle is a classic naval mismatch. When the whole Taskforce only have 3 Destroyers and 4 Frigate and 6 jeep carrier up against 4 Battleships, 6 Cruisers, 2 Light Cruiser, 8 Destroyers. And Japanese Battleship Yamato Alone weighted all the US Task Force ship combine and pack a gun absolutely outrange any of the US naval warship.
Also not when Admiral Nelson when his 21 SOL fleet was out number by nearly 2 to 1. When he circle around the French/Spainish naval fleet.
Also not when Commander Oliver H Perry when his fleet is outgunned by the British Fleet.
There are numerous example of ship number did not control any battle, virtually any Naval Battle between US and Japan during beginning stage of WW2 where US fought with less ship than Japan after Pearl Harbour.
That is why you people never understand battle. You don't just back off when you are outnumber and outgun, if that force you into it, you will have to fight, and you
WILL fight, there are no buts, ifs or what in it, and a battle is not set until the last bullet fires. This "US Run first then French run" thing is stupid, and only a person never seen battle would say it.
@Daniel808, your welcome and thank you for adding more valuable information
Why have no chance?
As you know, Chinese Navy is much stronger than France Navy. And when did France ever have modern sea battle experience? especially in north sea?
Answer me this, how China can even get to Atlantic without either passing India, Japan, Australia or United States. Do you think India, Australia or United States will allow safe passage and resupply to Chinese fleet when French is in war?
And where can Chinese ship resupply during the battle off French Coast even if the Chinese can get there.?
For those of us who have
ACTUAL battlefield knowledge will know that the loss of power curve would mean if Chinese steam across 11000 mile of oceans, the force reduction rate is at 25% at best, and if every bullet, rounds and missile have to supply from mainland Chinese, you cannot sustain a fight with combine French Navy and Air Force in French home soil.
Even the mighty US navy with twice the amount of Chinese ship and 4 times the support fleet than the PLAN, they can only project 30% (1 in 3 carrier fleet) that far to a non peer enemy. You are talking about Chinese Navy, with less base logistic, and less ship and fighting a near peer enemy.
Do you think China is as weak as Iraq or Afghanistan?
You know if US still think twice to have war with China in SCS, what make you think involving France, British, and Germany will change the equation so drastically then leave no chance for China to win at all?
Do you know during Iraq war,
European (France + British + Germany etc) military force demonstrated weak performance there; it is US military might that play major role in the coalition force; and Iraq is much closer to Europe than SCS.
And now we are talking China with technology and military power far ahead than Iraq or Afghanistan, and has capability to destroy the whole coalition's navy with abundant anti access weapon
No, but do you think French is Iraq and Afghanistan?
US 3rd fleet alone (4 Aircraft Carrier and 2 LPD fleet) will give China enough problem. If you put the Brits, the German, the French, the Canadian in the equation, there are NO CONTEST,
you have to be really stupid to think PLAN can stand the pressure with a combine US, Canadian, French, German, and British Fleet.
And land war is different than a naval war, you are talking about occupation, not a engagement, and why you think European and US have show its weakness in Iraq? When EVERY SINGLE OPBECTIVE is achieved in Iraq? They made a regime change, they leave when Iraq government is in the strong position (that's why they can survive the ISIS onslaught unlike Syria), they killed Saddam Hussein, and they fought for 8 years with only ~4000 casualty, anyone would say this is a successful Military Engagement.
And Iraq is closer than SCS so? French have base closer to SCS than in Iraq.
But if you are talking about the "AMAZING" Chinese missile that hit all and sink all, I am not interested in engaging a make believe discussion in your dream.