The French Navy Stands Up to China

[Jlaw]

The French are too cowardly to enter China's territorial waters. The Americans do innocent passage within 12 nautical miles because they did not sign UNCLOS and recognize only three nautical miles of territorial water.

PLAN and PLAAF recently conducted military exercises in the South China Sea to rehearse a limited conflict triggered by a freedom of navigation operation.

French military are not known for bravery , ask the Germans how they surrendered without a fight during ww2. And they need to hire foreign soldiers to fight for them. Thieves, rapists, murderers are welcome thus forming the French Legion. All those survivors were given french citizenship.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Chinese are good at giving warnings but on the ground they know their capabilities against a western power.
French would have decimated the chinese without batting a eyelid.
Vietnamese were much weaker but they are brave men. Not so the chinese.

We give the warning to let others to acknowledge they're approaching our water territories in SCS, of course they can ignore but the message is delivered and at least they know that China is not going to give up or sit idle and they could imagine the outcome of trespassing if China Navy decide to act.

Western power nowadays is only US and you westerner is only good on hiding behind US and refer it as western power when bragging, without US western power is just meaningless. I'm pretty sure that your Netherland Navy is powerless than Ethiopia why bragging about western power. China is world second military spending with 228 billions while France is only 57 Billions according to wiki, for now France still holding technological advantage over China because of their technological heritage but China is certainly catching up fast with this budget.

As for Vietnamese, they're only brave when they think there is a powerful nation to back them up, otherwise they certainly will get steam rolled by China while crying for being bullied.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

I think YOU are the one underestimating China.1 on 1 China will beat France. Only nukes or NATO coalition will Save France. dont BS me.

1 v 1 the french will still win. They have better ships, better crews, better technology & have more experience overall.

The chinese navy have only recently acquire blue water capability. While the french have that for decades.

Just saying it what it is.

 

[925boy]

1 v 1 the french will still win. They have better ships, better crews, better technology & have more experience overall.

The chinese navy have only recently acquire blue water capability. While the french have that for decades.

Just saying it what it is.

How will french win when their technology is only slightly better than China's and China can probably field 3-5 sailors/soldiers per french soldier? Does France have money to even fund a war? I doubt they have more money than China to fund a war, because we all know it is hard to win a war against an economically superior country. You sound as if France has a huge military. They have a good military no doubt, and they can threaten with Nukes, but to say they will beat China without external help, i doubt that.

 

[haidian]

1 v 1 the french will still win. They have better ships, better crews, better technology & have more experience overall.

The chinese navy have only recently acquire blue water capability. While the french have that for decades.

Just saying it what it is.

When was the last time France won a war? Korea? Vietnam? or WWII. France as a country with a very small economy and industry base, no resources and manpower, taking on mighty China will be their wet dream. Their only shield is US, without US, France is nothing.

China is the world's biggest industrial nation producing more steel than the rest of world added up, China is also world's biggest shipbuilder, machine builder, car productiion... the list goes on and now China is almost the biggest in producing everything on this planet, what France can use to fight China?


in six years China began construction on three times more destroyers than in the ranks of the entire Royal Navy.
This Is What a Real Naval Buildup Looks Like
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a21086031/china-naval-build-up/

 

[antonius123]

1 v 1 the french will still win. They have better ships, better crews, better technology & have more experience overall.

The chinese navy have only recently acquire blue water capability. While the french have that for decades.

Just saying it what it is.

Are you kidding?

France Navy is nowhere near PLAN. Even China Navy is still more powerful than France Navy + British Navy combined.

France Navy (No. 6th)

Vs

China Navy (No. 2nd)

http://listographic.com/top-10-navies

In term of quality / technology, none of France destroyers from horizon class, cassard-class, aquitaine-class, or georges leygues-class can match Chinese Aegis - Type 052D (AESA Radar, supersonic cruise + z sigsag YJ-12 & YJ-18, 64 VLS).

Chinese Navy is superior than France in term of quality and quantity (by far).

In the 2018 top ten size, France and British Navy power are not in the list.
https://www.businessinsider.sg/biggest-navies-in-the-world-2018-4/?r=US&IR=T

Chinese navy can destroy France navy in short time.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

How will french win when their technology is only slightly better than China's and China can probably field 3-5 sailors/soldiers per french soldier? Does France have money to even fund a war? I doubt they have more money than China to fund a war, because we all know it is hard to win a war against an economically superior country. You sound as if France has a huge military. They have a good military no doubt, and they can threaten with Nukes, but to say they will beat China without external help, i doubt that.

Slightly? Their technology is way more sophisticated than what the PLAN currently have. Their radar & the mmb40 exocet missiles system especially. The chinese radar system & the yingji missile are not even up to par to western standard.

Also not responding to you. Saying the chinese have more ships doesn't mean anything if there were no explanation given to how the PLAN would win.

Given that the french have every advantages beside numerical I still don't think the french would be beaten considering that the PLAN can't reach france.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Are you kidding?

France Navy is nowhere near PLAN. Even China Navy is still more powerful than France Navy + British Navy combined.

France Navy (No. 6th)

Vs

China Navy (No. 2nd)

http://listographic.com/top-10-navies

In term of quality / technology, none of France destroyers from horizon class, cassard-class, aquitaine-class, or georges leygues-class can match Chinese Aegis - Type 052D (AESA Radar, supersonic cruise + z sigsag YJ-12 & YJ-18, 64 VLS).

Chinese Navy is superior than France in term of quality and quantity (by far).

In the 2018 top ten size, France and British Navy power are not in the list.
https://www.businessinsider.sg/biggest-navies-in-the-world-2018-4/?r=US&IR=T

Chinese navy can destroy France navy in short time.

I don't know if you're making fun of China but as new blue navy China still have to learn from England and France, we should not let our ego blind us as during the Sino-Japanese naval battle that a lot of Chinese naval officiers thought Japanese navy was a piece of cake and end up for being get owned.

If China want to be a top player in Naval power, it need to have a wisdom and get inspiration of our Female volleyball team to be able to work as team, training for excellency and receive resource their need to deal with tough adversary.

 

[Viet]

The French navy has the right to sail through international waters and to guarantee the freedom of navigation,the Chinese and their BS claims can only bark as loud as they want.

Don’t hesitate to bring Force de Frappe to the South China Sea. End game. If the Chinese clowns control the sea lanes, imposing blockade, we all will die of starvation because we can’t sell our products to France

 

[rott]

French military are not known for bravery , ask the Germans how they surrendered without a fight during ww2. And they need to hire foreign soldiers to fight for them. Thieves, rapists, murderers are welcome thus forming the French Legion. All those survivors were given french citizenship.

Not to forget they can't play football without the blacks.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Don’t hesitate to bring Force de Frappe to the South China Sea. End game. If the Chinese clowns control the sea lanes, imposing blockade, we all will die of starvation because we can’t sell our products to France

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Why we would impose blockade when China-France trade is far exceed of China-Vietnam, you just spew none sense, try to earn other's pity by pretending as China will starve Vietnam is not gonna help you but make you like a pathetic crying baby. If China wants to starve Vietnam we really have other way: by stop Song Hong river, you then can kiss and say good bye to you agriculture in Nord Vietnam.

 

[Vergennes]

French military are not known for bravery , ask the Germans how they surrendered without a fight during ww2. And they need to hire foreign soldiers to fight for them. Thieves, rapists, murderers are welcome thus forming the French Legion. All those survivors were given french citizenship.

French soldiers do not have to show any proof of their bravery all over the centuries and in the hundreds of operations the French army has conducted over the recent decades. This is a fact known by all the most powerful armies on this planet.

Talk about bravery,let's talk about those Chinese peacekeepers who recently abandoned their posts and failed to protect civilians during an outbreak of fighting in South Sudan,even abandonning weapons and ammos behind them.

Don’t hesitate to bring Force de Frappe to the South China Sea. End game. If the Chinese clowns control the sea lanes, imposing blockade, we all will die of starvation because we can’t sell our products to France

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The Chinese super warriors over here can only bark as in no way China is going to attack a nuclear armed nation as France and a NATO member. Only in their wet dreams.

 

[rott]

French soldiers do not have to show any proof of their bravery all over the centuries and in the hundreds of operations the French army has conducted over the recent decades. This is a fact known by all the most powerful armies on this planet.

Talk about bravery,let's talk about those Chinese peacekeepers who recently abandoned their posts and failed to protect civilians during an outbreak of fighting in South Sudan,even abandonning weapons and ammos behind them.




The Chinese super warriors over here can only bark as in no way China is going to attack a nuclear armed nation as France and a NATO member. Only in their wet dreams.

Okay let's forget about it and move on. You dont want to get on the bad side of the Chinese members here and these Viets are flame baiting you in here. That's all the Viets are good at.

 

[925boy]

Slightly? Their technology is way more sophisticated than what the PLAN currently have. Their radar & the mmb40 exocet missiles system especially. The chinese radar system & the yingji missile are not even up to par to western standard.

Also not responding to you. Saying the chinese have more ships doesn't mean anything if there were no explanation given to how the PLAN would win.

Given that the french have every advantages beside numerical I still don't think the french would be beaten considering that the PLAN can't reach france.

You cant show me any world military power rankings that ranks France higher than China. I can also conclude 2 things from your arguments on this:
1) You think technology wins wars(yea yea, if that was True US would have won Afghan war a long time ago)
2) You dont accept the world order and power structure has changed. IT HAS.

thank you @antonius123 for the professional comparison. lol

 

[rott]

You cant show me any world military power rankings that ranks France higher than China. I can also conclude 2 things from your arguments on this:
1) You think technology wins wars(yea yea, if that was True US would have won Afghan war a long time ago)
2) You dont accept the world order and power structure has changed. IT HAS.

thank you @antonius123 for the professional comparison. lol

Let it go, bro. These Viets here trying to stir the pot.