The Fight against PKK Terrorism

[Hurshid Celebi]

I am not scared from Russia. I know our power. Even Hitler never tried or attempted to occupy Turkey. He had to pass Ukraine to Caucasia and lost.

 

[Jackal131]

You are still arguing as if Russia started arming the PKK out of nowhere for no reason.

The day the jet was shot down I said watch the south east descend into chaos and that is what happened.

If Russia shot down our jet for nothing but a politicians ego / financial benefits we would also respond militarily.

But it's embarrassing to see some members who often post well thought comments talking nonsense about how much power we have against Russia.

That must be the reason why our politicians ran to NATO the moment they did something and are now desperate to re open public relations with Israel.

Our politicians as are not independent. And until they are we will continue to be used as a tool.

Enough of our soldiers....our friends.... have died because of politicians trying to stay in power and win elections. Now more are dying because the same politicians are making decisions to benefit other nations even though it gets more of our soldiers killed.

You think we are powerful ? A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Erdogan and the akp are a joke internationally. They have zero respect in political and media circles. Our military is only as it's weakest link...the politicians that are more interested in financial gain and self preservation rather than our actual nation. Do you remember the last time the political leadership had more interested in money and their own status ? They sold our country to the very nation's that we were at war with just so they could preserve themselves. Our people embarked on a war of independence against our war time enemies and their local collaborators, the political leadership.

Don't ever forget if we had a tough war to fight the very first to run away is the political leadership that would run to the US or Saudi or some other oil rich Arab nation. All they care of is their own status and bank accounts. not about you or our soldiers.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

to run away is the political leadership

Agreed. But we are not so weak as you think. I wrote you some I won't repeat again.
We have a very strong organization - independent from RTE- which can fierce strike back everywhere.
I don't know how deep you are ? But you can trust in it.
That was the reason that FETÖ clan tried to capture - cosmic archives-.
But there are no archives , it's bequested from one to one.

 

[Jackal131]

Its not that I think we are that weak. It is the fact that our military doctrine, which I was trained in, dictates we are that weak compared to Russia.

You see our own military acknowledges our true strength and adjusts doctrine to that. Our doctrine dictates that conventionally, if we have to fight Russia. We dig in and wait for the alliance of almost 30 states to come to our aid.

I have said it in this forum before, regardless where we fight Russia, even if it is on our border at Syria. Doctrine states that until NATO arrives in full force, we dig in at the borderline and try to hold it, no aggressive actions.

Once NATO arrives in full force we then begin to attack, if that is a viable option.

On our own, our militaries purpose is to try and hold ground not capture it. And I for one do not take any pride in bragging here like some members here and people online, "yeah Russia is strong but it cannot defeat Turkey with NATO support"...that's embarrassing, how can you brag about needing the help of the worlds strongest military and almost 30 other powerful militaries just to defend your land against one enemy.

Like I said our politicians are our weakest link, but in Russia, the politician in charge is taken more seriously than Obama internationally.

Our soldiers who are in ACTIVE COMBAT for decades, will continue to fight with poor equipment, old ammunition and poor training. Any other "powerful" country under such circumstances would have a far superior military force instead of billion dollar palaces and jets and limos for everyone that s*cks a politicians d**k.

At the end of the day, we have no chance against Russia because there is no political will behind our military, limos for parliament members are more important than our soldiers and police driving around in 40-50 year old vehicles. The type of support our politicians gives our military is tiny in comparison to how much support they give each other and to foreign governments / politicians. Just like the end of WW1 when the politicians, with the same mindset, sold out our entire population, our land and spat on the graves of the millions that spilled their blood for it.

Its happening again.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

will continue to fight with poor equipment, old ammunition and poor training

Do you believe in what you are talking. Do you have combat experience with elites ?
Sorry, you are a skilled writer but poor mind.
You never experienced covert tactics.

end of WW1

You mean ATATÜRK ? Bye Feto guy

we will take your Cihan Kansiz and Zek Öz alive in an private jet

Obez , fat aq guys

never made their military service o.co..lari hepsi

 

[madmusti]

Don't quote an unconfirmed post in donanimhaber forum pls.
Engine failure ? It's not an Formula 1 or old M-113 gasoline engine, never happened

Did you know that i must "show ignored content" to answer an ........ like you are ?!

My Source it´s definitely not a Hardware Forum that has Members of your kind !

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

show ignored content

Then , don't answer it was not tagging.
In my eyes you made the fault of your life, publishing here pictures with real coordinates visible.
Even it was from face...it was faulty and naive

@madmusti

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_113222501/tm.htm

Thanks you it is restricted only to mods

You made the propaganda and the it was ignited ....on whole www

 

[KingWest]

Then , don't answer it was not tagging.
In my eyes you made the fault of your life, publishing here pictures with real coordinates visible.
Even it was from face...it was faulty and naive

What happened? And on reddit someone claims
" Tank isnt hit. Its an engine failure,
Even if my guesses are wrong my sources are coming from officer that is IN Cizre.'

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

guesses are wrong

My info came from Ataveati - Twitter, ex Spec ops Sergeant

 

[Jackal131]

Do you believe in what you are talking. Do you have combat......

I will always be loyal to the army over the politicians, it is the normal people of our nation like you that serve in the army, not the politicians, that is why I trust the army more. As for that Feto f**ker, who is nothing but another American puppet; I also do not care about him, he is the exact same as the politicians, he works with his own interests(by that I mean American) in mind.

You can ask Tolga about the extent of my duty when he comes back from deployment himself. He will tell you a little bit about where i've been and maybe even some of the people Ive worked under. I believe you could ask Deno also, I know him a long time, since he first emerged infact. In fact back when I was still trying to source good equipment for combat out of my own money, he pointed me to Anafarta. Hes a good guy and knows how long I have been around. He was also around when some of my personal pictures surfaced without PERSEC in mind and I had them all removed from the net.

You see I speak form experience, my opinions are made of my own personal experience both on high level assignment and combat. Not of somebody else. If somebody else who you find reliable wants to tell you my background then maybe they will tell you some. After they ask me what is ok to disclose of course. But we know nothing of your background.

Some of your comments alone imply that you are in fact quite young, probably 13-18 years of age and you have a habit of non stop posting news articles that have no actual reliable sources.

Mate if you haven't done your service yet please feel free to contact me and I can give you plenty of advice. Also if you are interested in a career as an NCO let me know.

But please do not associate me with AKP, MHP, CHP, HDP , Feto; they are all the same, cowards who will sell us out if they get scared....it doesnt matter, I have no political association. I have no religion. I am loyal only to our flag and you my brothers.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Moment I am reading @Jackal131

probably 13-18 years of age and you have a habit of non stop posting

ke you that serve in the army,

That's the problem, I was in service in the ...'s at the hottest time and you would never wish to know where and why.
But, I never deny that all you guys are specialists in your own matter and fields. I congratulate you and wish you all the best.
I wrote to you, remember -Caesarea -. You never answered.
That's reason for Turkish-Israeli brotherhood in teams, fvk the AKP

@Jackal131

Let the LEŞ es be in their tombs

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

HDP Vice and terror supporter ordered Kornets AT-14 in Russia for PKK

"HDP Eş Başkanı Selahattin Demirtaş'ın Moskova ziyaretinde, Rus Dışişleri Bakanı Lavrov'dan terör örgütü için AT-14 tanksavar füzesi istediği ortaya çıktı."!

Demirtaş'ın Rusya'dan ne istediği ortaya çıktı! - Güncel Haberler

 

[xenon54 out]

HDP Vice and terror supporter ordered Kornets AT-14 in Russia for PKK

"HDP Eş Başkanı Selahattin Demirtaş'ın Moskova ziyaretinde, Rus Dışişleri Bakanı Lavrov'dan terör örgütü için AT-14 tanksavar füzesi istediği ortaya çıktı."!

Demirtaş'ın Rusya'dan ne istediği ortaya çıktı! - Güncel Haberler

If thats true then its a duty of the goverment to ban this party.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Bu iddiayı Rus askeri uzmanlar da doğrularken, Lavrov'un görüşme sonrasında "Türkiye'de Kürtlerin yürüttüğü özgürlük mücadelesini desteklemeye devam edeceğiz" ifadelerini kullanması bu iddiayı daha da güçlendiriyor.

Demirtaş Rusya'dan tanksavar füze istedi - Takvim
- 03 Ocak 2016

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Interesting solution vs. Missiles

New armored ambulances for SE

Güneydoğu'ya zırhlı ambulans !