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I earlier made a thread about the alleged figures of rapes in 1971. For some reason it was moved out of my reach to the Senior section.
There was a post by @Solomon2 which said that the figure of 300,000 killed was a low range estimate. And the source @Solomon2 provided was R.J. Rummel.
However an academic, Christian Gerlach, has said that R.J Rummel's figures are 'sensationalist' and exaggerated. So R J Rummel is not an accurate source.
Christian Gerlach explains that Rummel ‘arrives at exaggerated death figures for most “democides” by so-called bracketing; instead of primary research, he takes the mean of available published estimates, mostly out of works of general character and therefore secondary quality, and from scholarly and journalistic accounts, to determine mortality’: Gerlach, Extremely Violent Societies, p. 468. Other scholars have also found that Rummel’s ‘method of estimation is fundamentally flawed’ (Anton Weiss-Wendt, also citing Tomislav Dulic, in his ‘Problems in Comparative Genocide Scholarship’, in Stone (ed.), The Historiography of Genocide, p. 46).
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Anyways there are also some journalists comments from that time period:
Peter Gill, a western journalist, said: “Sheikh Mujib's wild figure of three million Bengalis killed during those 10 terrible months is at least 20 times too high, if not 50 or 60.”
Source: Peter Gill, Pakistan Holds Together, Daily Telegraph, London, 16 April, 1973.
Reporting from the Noakhali district Abdul Muhaimin, well-known author, Awami League MCA and long time friend of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, had this to say:
“As a Member of the Constituent Assembly I was entrusted with the responsibility of finding out the casualty figure for the whole of Noakhali district. After contacting different Police Stations and Unions the figure I had was less than seven thousand. Even after adding up the number of Razakars killed, the total did not exceed seven and a half thousand. At that time, Bangladesh had 19 districts. All these districts were not equally affected by the war. Noakhali was one among the districts which had seen severe fighting. If the figure obtained from Noakhali was seen as the mean average for the rest of the districts, even then the total killed would not exceed more than one hundred twenty five thousand.”
Source: Yahya Mirza, Interview with Mr Abdul Muhaimin, The Tarokalok, Dhaka, 1 March, 1990 cf. also cf. Jauhuri, ibid: 48-49.
William Drummond of The Guardian said:
“The figure of three million deaths has been carried uncritically in sections of the world press. My judgement, based on numerous trips around Bangladesh and extensive discussion with many people at the village level as well as in the government, is that the three million deaths is an exaggeration so gross as to be absurd.”
On 6 June 1972, William Drummond reported:
"Since the third week of March, when the Inspector General's office in the Bangladesh Home Ministry began its field investigations, there have been about 2,000 complaints from citizens about deaths at the hands of the Pakistan Army have been received."
Later, sources in Bangladesh reported that the draft report showed an overall casualty figure of 56,743. When a copy of this draft report was shown to the Prime Minister, "he lost his temper and threw it on the floor, saying in angry voice
'I have declared three million dead, and your report could not come up with three score thousand! What report you have prepared? Keep your report to yourself. What I have said once, shall prevail."
Source: William Drummond, The Missing Millions, The Guardian, London, 6 June, 1972.
Peter Gill of the Daily Telegraph said
“The Pakistan soldiery in the East during 1971 was suppressing a rebellion, and not in occupation of a foreign country. Sheikh Mujib's wild figure of three million Bengalis killed during those 10 terrible months is at least 20 times too high, if not 50 or 60. And what of all the killing that the Bengalis did whenever they had a chance?”
@WAJsal
One must also take into account the inclusion of combatant casualties. Additionally, scholars like Christian Gerlach ague that the majority of deaths were due to hunger and malnutrition, not due to direct army killings.
There was a post by @Solomon2 which said that the figure of 300,000 killed was a low range estimate. And the source @Solomon2 provided was R.J. Rummel.
However an academic, Christian Gerlach, has said that R.J Rummel's figures are 'sensationalist' and exaggerated. So R J Rummel is not an accurate source.
Christian Gerlach explains that Rummel ‘arrives at exaggerated death figures for most “democides” by so-called bracketing; instead of primary research, he takes the mean of available published estimates, mostly out of works of general character and therefore secondary quality, and from scholarly and journalistic accounts, to determine mortality’: Gerlach, Extremely Violent Societies, p. 468. Other scholars have also found that Rummel’s ‘method of estimation is fundamentally flawed’ (Anton Weiss-Wendt, also citing Tomislav Dulic, in his ‘Problems in Comparative Genocide Scholarship’, in Stone (ed.), The Historiography of Genocide, p. 46).
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Anyways there are also some journalists comments from that time period:
Peter Gill, a western journalist, said: “Sheikh Mujib's wild figure of three million Bengalis killed during those 10 terrible months is at least 20 times too high, if not 50 or 60.”
Source: Peter Gill, Pakistan Holds Together, Daily Telegraph, London, 16 April, 1973.
Reporting from the Noakhali district Abdul Muhaimin, well-known author, Awami League MCA and long time friend of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, had this to say:
“As a Member of the Constituent Assembly I was entrusted with the responsibility of finding out the casualty figure for the whole of Noakhali district. After contacting different Police Stations and Unions the figure I had was less than seven thousand. Even after adding up the number of Razakars killed, the total did not exceed seven and a half thousand. At that time, Bangladesh had 19 districts. All these districts were not equally affected by the war. Noakhali was one among the districts which had seen severe fighting. If the figure obtained from Noakhali was seen as the mean average for the rest of the districts, even then the total killed would not exceed more than one hundred twenty five thousand.”
Source: Yahya Mirza, Interview with Mr Abdul Muhaimin, The Tarokalok, Dhaka, 1 March, 1990 cf. also cf. Jauhuri, ibid: 48-49.
William Drummond of The Guardian said:
“The figure of three million deaths has been carried uncritically in sections of the world press. My judgement, based on numerous trips around Bangladesh and extensive discussion with many people at the village level as well as in the government, is that the three million deaths is an exaggeration so gross as to be absurd.”
On 6 June 1972, William Drummond reported:
"Since the third week of March, when the Inspector General's office in the Bangladesh Home Ministry began its field investigations, there have been about 2,000 complaints from citizens about deaths at the hands of the Pakistan Army have been received."
Later, sources in Bangladesh reported that the draft report showed an overall casualty figure of 56,743. When a copy of this draft report was shown to the Prime Minister, "he lost his temper and threw it on the floor, saying in angry voice
'I have declared three million dead, and your report could not come up with three score thousand! What report you have prepared? Keep your report to yourself. What I have said once, shall prevail."
Source: William Drummond, The Missing Millions, The Guardian, London, 6 June, 1972.
Peter Gill of the Daily Telegraph said
“The Pakistan soldiery in the East during 1971 was suppressing a rebellion, and not in occupation of a foreign country. Sheikh Mujib's wild figure of three million Bengalis killed during those 10 terrible months is at least 20 times too high, if not 50 or 60. And what of all the killing that the Bengalis did whenever they had a chance?”
@WAJsal
One must also take into account the inclusion of combatant casualties. Additionally, scholars like Christian Gerlach ague that the majority of deaths were due to hunger and malnutrition, not due to direct army killings.
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