The enemy and Pakistan Army

[Ticker]

Ticker eventually Pakistan will have to stand down and disband or be disarmed.

You see Bangladesh?

We have our arms around their shoulder in a big brotherly hug.

We will soon have our other arm around our other kid brother.

Nothing like smothering big brotherly love .....

Yeah sure ...... if aunty had balls she would be an uncle.

 

[Rig Vedic]

... no denying the fact that India poses the biggest threat to Pakistan.

Whatever the deployment of forces, the initiation of conflict is always from Pakistan.

 

[vsdoc]

Yeah sure ...... if aunty had balls she would be an uncle.

Anatomically, where there is one ball (1971) there is usually bound to be another (2015?).

 

[Wickerman]

Precepts of Indian military strategy clearly indicate that these forces would be permanently poised against Pakistan, irrespective of the kind of threat that emerges from China.

Pakistan Army is very right in stating that the major military threat emanates from India.

From a military and strategic standpoint, yes.

But do you really face a threat from India? No. The Indian troops are deployed to actually counter Pakistani aggression and we have good reason to do so considering the history between the two nations.

A morose narrative swinging between sarcasm laden pseudo-Victorian English and rhetoricism.

Joe Shearer, you are one of those who attempts to write geopolitical prose without understanding geopolitics.

Please restrict yourself to sarcasm laden pseudo-Victorian English expression highlighting petty social issues - anything beyond that is beyond your comprehension restricted by meager mental resource constraints.

If you read his post what he meant was that Pakistan's existential threats, exist within than outside. That India is the boogeyman out to get Pakistan is actually false propaganda and is the basis of the Pakistani psyche that motivates people such as this person that wrote the article to write whatever he wrote. It is actually not true.

 

[vsdoc]

If you read his post what he meant was that Pakistan's existential threats, exist within than outside. That India is the boogeyman out to get Pakistan is actually false propaganda and is the basis of the Pakistani psyche that motivates people such as this person that wrote the article to write whatever he wrote. It is actually not true.

Then again, it is highly likely that people like Joe are part of the deep state lulling the Pakistanis into a false sense of warm security.

Today more than ever in the past, Pakistan and Pakistanis, want to, need to, believe that India means them no harm.

People like Joe and their believable narratives feed into this need.

 

[Wickerman]

Then again, it is highly likely that people like Joe are part of the deep state lulling the Pakistanis into a false sense of warm security.

Today more than ever in the past, Pakistan and Pakistanis, want to, need to, believe that India means them no harm.

People like Joe and their believable narratives feed into this need.

So you mean India is out to get Pakistan? I dont think so. Of course, India would definitely have some form of counter intelligence measures aimed at Pakistan, but this whole thing started with Pakistan's aggressive posturing AND actions towards India. But India as such does not do anything to destabilize Pakistan, atleast there is no substantial proof that has ever been produced to corroborate that accusation, to my knowledge.

 

[pakdefender]

India has 28 states , 2 nukes per state captial means 56 nukes , thats all its gonna take.

 

[vsdoc]

So you mean India is out to get Pakistan? I dont think so. Of course, India would definitely have some form of counter intelligence measures aimed at Pakistan, but this whole thing started with Pakistan's aggressive posturing AND actions towards India. But India as such does not do anything to destabilize Pakistan, atleast there is no substantial proof that has ever been produced to corroborate that accusation, to my knowledge.

Its a simple equation.

India cannot afford to have a hostile nuclear state on its border.

With two the situation becomes even more untenable.

The noises coming out of China with their once in a decade change of guard sound promising.

Even if they were not, with China we are in a holding pattern.

With Pakistan we will soon need to force the issue.

That is not to say that India is out to get Pakistan.

India is merely out to remove Pakistan from the equation.

Once done, Pakistan can continue to grow and trade with us like Bangladesh does. Or Nepal or Bhutan or Sri Lanka.

Or the Maldives.

 

[Rig Vedic]

India has 28 states , 2 nukes per state captial means 56 nukes , thats all its gonna take.

Will that stop the Taliban from beheading your soldiers at will?

But you digress. The topic of the thread is who is the enemy, and why.

Somebody said India is the enemy because Indian forces are deployed against Pakistan. But it is Pakistan that initiates all conflicts.

To understand what is happening, we need to go deeper into the mind of the Pakistani.

 

[prabhakar]

India has 28 states , 2 nukes per state captial means 56 nukes , thats all its gonna take.

pakistan has 4 states, 3 nukes per state capital means 12 nukes, that's all its gonna take.

 

[vsdoc]

India has 28 states , 2 nukes per state captial means 56 nukes , thats all its gonna take.

You know less than zilch about nukes, yields, delivery, or targeting.

 

[OrionHunter]

This retired brigadier of the PA needs to get his head examined. Just because he's served in the PA, the Pak media bends over backwards to entertain this baloney he's written.

Since 2001, how many Pakistanis have been killed by militants? - 40,000. That's many times more than all the Pakistani troops killed by India since independence!

How many have been killed in sectarian clashes in Pakistan? More than 10,000!

How many have been killed in drone strikes?

The TTP has vowed to take over Pakistan and impose the Sharia. This is one of the main points of their agenda.

The Americans have Balochistan on their radar. Congressman Rohrabacher introduced a resolution in the US House of Representatives with much bipartisan support calling upon Pakistan to recognize the Baloch right to self determination.

And this retired PA brigadier still feels India is the biggest threat to Pakistan? That's nothing but intellectual bankruptcy. With such characters around, does Pakistan really need an enemy?

India has 28 states , 2 nukes per state captial means 56 nukes , thats all its gonna take.

Why don't these self styled 'experts' take their crappy logic somewhere else? That's the problem with people who know zilch about the subject but keep trotting out claptrap! Jeeez! The standard of intelligent discussion here is hitting rock bottom!

But then, this is PDF!

 

[ajtr]

What holds Pakistan back from making peace with us?

Kashmir? Siachen? Sir Creek?

Seriously?

Does anyone honestly believe that were Pakistan agreeable, a combined force of US and Indian and Chinese and possibly Russian boots on the ground could not cleanse them and the area of their Taliban and other scum in under 6 months?

They want to have their cake and eat it too.

Hedging their bets.

Waiting for when the pressure will let up.

So they can go back to their old tricks.

The solution is simple.

Do not relax the pressure.

Leverage internal schisms as force multipliers.

But do not let them break up under any condition.

Slow boil.

Na Nau Man Tel Hoga, Na Radha Nachegi(When there is no will, there is no way)

 

[pakdefender]

This retired brigadier of the PA needs to get his head examined. Just because he's served in the PA, the Pak media bends over backwards to entertain this baloney he's written.

Since 2001, how many Pakistanis have been killed by militants? - 40,000. That's many times more than all the Pakistani troops killed by India since independence!

How many have been killed in sectarian clashes in Pakistan? More than 10,000!

How many have been killed in drone strikes?

The TTP has vowed to take over Pakistan and impose the Sharia. This is one of the main points of their agenda.

The Americans have Balochistan on their radar. Congressman Rohrabacher introduced a resolution in the US House of Representatives with much bipartisan support calling upon Pakistan to recognize the Baloch right to self determination.

And this retired PA brigadier still feels India is the biggest threat to Pakistan? That's nothing but intellectual bankruptcy. With such characters around, does Pakistan really need an enemy?


Why don't these self styled 'experts' take their crappy logic somewhere else? That's the problem with people who know zilch about the subject but keep trotting out claptrap! Jeeez! The standard of intelligent discussion here is hitting rock bottom!

But then, this is PDF!

India is Pakistan’s main enemy, the other enemies see India as the leverage they have against Pakistan , india is the tool they can use against Pakistan.

India got in american underpants in afghanistan to throw stones at Pakistan and also india is destabalizing Balochistan ... india is also active on international forums like UN in undermining Pakistan.

I never trust an indian , I may talk to indians in a polite way but I NEVER trust one , since india is after all Pakistan's main enemy

 

[Ticker]

Anatomically, where there is one ball (1971) there is usually bound to be another (2015?).

Is it a continuation of 1962 that you are talking about, when perhaps you were not present even in liquid form eh?