The end of the deal, hopes, delusions and treasons

[ValerioAurelius]

Hello dude,
Your answer is in your Question.
IRGC stand for Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as you can see their responsibility is protecting revolution.
West want to destroy Iran by sanctions in economic war ,so they enter Iran big projects to counter west economic war.
They built Metro, Refinery, highways, ..... while nobody else wanted to build

No one in Europe wants destroy Iran.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Our government is not our military.

I know the division of legislative, executive and jurisdictive is not known in the oriental world, but the division of the branches are important. An italian military staff is not allowed to operate private business. Iranian military staff acts like a big mafia.

Tell me for example why must they own mobilephone companies and banks?

As for your question:

Answer B is right. Airbus is not bound to follow US sanctions. It overrides the americans anctions and sells Airbus to russia for example.



Iran has the highest position in the global money laundring list

https://arabiangcis.org/english/news/why-does-iran-have-the-highest-rank-in-money-laundering-risk/

"According to Iranian officials themselves, bureaucratic corruption in Iran has reached a high level and has become institutionalized and systematic. As a consequence, internal monitoring institutes such the judiciary branch which is corrupt itself cannot monitor and limit extensive economic and managerial corruption in Iran. More significantly, the reason of this managerial and financial corruption is lack of accountability and transparency of bureaucratic system and suppressing media and civil society that are independent of the establishment."

Thats a fact. Tell me why Iran Army needs to operate Luxury hotels, banks and all that? Can you name a hotel in Italy owned by our military? Can you name any bank or hotel operated by any european nations military?

You asnwered your own question amigo. Military can force a business into deals. It creates enormous corruption.

When we were in Iran our translator explicitly warned my boss for the military crooks who would try to push for deals in their favor.

Let explain something . Iran government unlike many other countries have no control over military. For example if tomorrow our government declare war on Italy and order our army to attack Italy it won't happen as our government have no authority over army but for example if Donald Trump have a fight with Italian president over their mistresses then he can order USA army to attack Italy even use nukes against Italy up to two month and then after that two month if he want to continue his war he must get senate approval for declaring war on Italy as for American attacking to a sovereign country up to two month is a normal thing and is not considered an act of aggression and declaration of war.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Let explain something . Iran government unlike many other countries have no control over military. For example if tomorrow our government declare war on Italy and order our army to attack Italy it won't happen as our government have no authority over army but for example if Donald Trump have a fight with Italian president over their mistresses then he can order USA army to attack Italy even use nukes against Italy up to two month and then after that two month if he want to continue his war he must get senate approval for declaring war on Italy as for American attacking to a sovereign country up to two month is a normal thing and is not considered an act of aggression and declaration of war.

So who has authority over your army?

 

[Hack-Hook]

So who has authority over your army?

Its at the hand of supreme leader and at the time of war he will select another person to control the armed force .
For example at the time of iran-Iraq war at first it was bani-safe who was it's red to control armed force but after his treason Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani ordered to control them .
About the police forces usually supreme leader give control over them to interior minister

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Its at the hand of supreme leader and at the time of war he will select another person to control the armed force .
For example at the time of iran-Iraq war at first it was bani-safe who was it's red to control armed force but after his treason Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani ordered to control them .
About the police forces usually supreme leader give control over them to interior minister

Interesting.

So its similar to our Roman Empire. You know we had Senate and Emperor. In case of war a competent person was chosen from the Emperor. The senate had no say in this aspect.

But there was a security protocol. This meant the leader of the army was not allowed to come close to Rome. You can understand why. When you led the military you have more power then the Emperor and could overthrow him or the Senate. It was not allowed for the military to step over the river Rubikon. Caesar did just this. He marched with the Army against Rome to get full control.

Is there a similar safety meassure in your country?

 

[Stryker1982]

Interesting.

So its similar to our Roman Empire. You know we had Senate and Emperor. In case of war a competent person was chosen from the Emperor. The senate had no say in this aspect.

But there was a security protocol. This meant the leader of the army was not allowed to come close to Rome. You can understand why. When you led the military you have more power then the Emperor and could overthrow him or the Senate. It was not allowed for the military to step over the river Rubikon. Caesar did just this. He marched with the Army against Rome to get full control.

Is there a similar safety meassure in your country?

IRGC is exactly what you're looking for. Like the Praetorian Guards. Only answer to the Supreme leader and not the senate, or in this Iran's case the parliment. Not necessarily elite though.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Interesting.

So its similar to our Roman Empire. You know we had Senate and Emperor. In case of war a competent person was chosen from the Emperor. The senate had no say in this aspect.

But there was a security protocol. This meant the leader of the army was not allowed to come close to Rome. You can understand why. When you led the military you have more power then the Emperor and could overthrow him or the Senate. It was not allowed for the military to step over the river Rubikon. Caesar did just this. He marched with the Army against Rome to get full control.

Is there a similar safety meassure in your country?

well if there is i'm not aware of it. but in each armed branch there is a intelligence branch that i believe finding coupe before they happen is part of their duty .

IRGC is exactly what you're looking for. Like the Praetorian Guards. Only answer to the Supreme leader and not the senate, or in this Iran's case the parliment. Not necessarily elite though.

in Iran none of the armed force answer to Parliament or Assembly of Experts

 

[ValerioAurelius]

well if there is i'm not aware of it. but in each armed branch there is a intelligence branch that i believe finding coupe before they happen is part of their duty .


in Iran none of the armed force answer to Parliament or Assembly of Experts

Which can become a problem. In Rome, the supreme leader was most often killed by the Praetorian Guard. The military did hold extreme power.

 

[yavar]

U.S Tillerson: Trump policy still regime change in Iran تیلرسون: برای تغییر حکومت ایران تلاش می‌کنیم

تیلرسون: برای تغییر حکومت ایران تلاش می‌کنیم
رکس تیلرسون وزیر خارجه آمریکا روز یکشنبه بار دیگر از تلاش برای براندازی جمهوری اسلامی ایران صحبت کرد.
وی که با شبکه سی‌ان‌ان گفت‌وگو می‌کرد، با تکرار ادعاهای همیشگی آمریکا علیه فعالیت‌های منطقه‌ای ایران، گفت: «تلاش ما این است که از صداهای معتدل در ایران حمایت کنیم، از دموکراسی‌خواهی و آزادی‌طلبی آن‌ها حمایت کنیم، به این امید که روزی مردم ایران کنترل حکومت این کشور را بازپس بگیرند و تاریخ غنی این کشور را احیا کرده و عضوی مثمر ثمر در تجارت و اقتصاد منطقه باشند.»
تیلرسون ادامه داد: «این آخر بازی است، اما این بازی‌ای طولانی است و ما این را درک می‌کنیم.»
این در حالی است که تیلرسون امروز در مصاحبه‌ای دیگر با شبکه سی‌بی‌اس، گفت آمریکا در زمان مناسب با ایران وارد تعامل می‌شود.
http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13960723001889

Iran AEOI chief Salehi: stop Additional Protocol if JCPOA nixed صالحی لغو برجام توقف پروتکل الحاقی

رئیس سازمان انرژی اتمی ایران علی‌اکبر صالحی: توقف اجرای پروتکل الحاقی در صورت لغو برجام

صالحی: برجام به هم بخورد اجرای پروتکل الحاقی هم متوقف می‌شود/علاقمندیم توافق کماکان پابرجا باشد/ما را وادار به عکس‌العمل نکنند
http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13960723000768

Iran to stop Additional Protocol if JCPOA nixed: Salehi
The head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) says the Islamic Republic will stop implementing the Non-Proliferation Treaty’s (NPT) Additional Protocol if the nuclear agreement is nixed.
“If the JCPOA collapses, we will suspend the implementation of the Additional Protocol because we are now implementing it voluntarily and it has not been approved by the parliament,” Ali Akbar Salehi said in an interview on Sunday, referring to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action as the nuclear deal is officially called.
He also stressed that Iran is committed to the inspections and meets its obligations only under the JCPOA and not beyond that framework.
Salehi further said that returning Iran’s nuclear program to the level before the JCPOA took “hours” for some activities while it was a matter of days or several months for some other activities and in a particular case one year and a few months.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/10/15/538675/Iran-JCPOA-Ali-Akbar-Salehi-Additional-Protocol

 

[Stryker1982]

U.S Tillerson: Trump policy still regime change in Iran تیلرسون: برای تغییر حکومت ایران تلاش می‌کنیم

تیلرسون: برای تغییر حکومت ایران تلاش می‌کنیم
رکس تیلرسون وزیر خارجه آمریکا روز یکشنبه بار دیگر از تلاش برای براندازی جمهوری اسلامی ایران صحبت کرد.
وی که با شبکه سی‌ان‌ان گفت‌وگو می‌کرد، با تکرار ادعاهای همیشگی آمریکا علیه فعالیت‌های منطقه‌ای ایران، گفت: «تلاش ما این است که از صداهای معتدل در ایران حمایت کنیم، از دموکراسی‌خواهی و آزادی‌طلبی آن‌ها حمایت کنیم، به این امید که روزی مردم ایران کنترل حکومت این کشور را بازپس بگیرند و تاریخ غنی این کشور را احیا کرده و عضوی مثمر ثمر در تجارت و اقتصاد منطقه باشند.»
تیلرسون ادامه داد: «این آخر بازی است، اما این بازی‌ای طولانی است و ما این را درک می‌کنیم.»
این در حالی است که تیلرسون امروز در مصاحبه‌ای دیگر با شبکه سی‌بی‌اس، گفت آمریکا در زمان مناسب با ایران وارد تعامل می‌شود.
http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13960723001889

Iran AEOI chief Salehi: stop Additional Protocol if JCPOA nixed صالحی لغو برجام توقف پروتکل الحاقی

رئیس سازمان انرژی اتمی ایران علی‌اکبر صالحی: توقف اجرای پروتکل الحاقی در صورت لغو برجام

صالحی: برجام به هم بخورد اجرای پروتکل الحاقی هم متوقف می‌شود/علاقمندیم توافق کماکان پابرجا باشد/ما را وادار به عکس‌العمل نکنند
http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13960723000768

Iran to stop Additional Protocol if JCPOA nixed: Salehi
The head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) says the Islamic Republic will stop implementing the Non-Proliferation Treaty’s (NPT) Additional Protocol if the nuclear agreement is nixed.
“If the JCPOA collapses, we will suspend the implementation of the Additional Protocol because we are now implementing it voluntarily and it has not been approved by the parliament,” Ali Akbar Salehi said in an interview on Sunday, referring to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action as the nuclear deal is officially called.
He also stressed that Iran is committed to the inspections and meets its obligations only under the JCPOA and not beyond that framework.
Salehi further said that returning Iran’s nuclear program to the level before the JCPOA took “hours” for some activities while it was a matter of days or several months for some other activities and in a particular case one year and a few months.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/10/15/538675/Iran-JCPOA-Ali-Akbar-Salehi-Additional-Protocol

With 20% Enrichment quality, should we not be capable of weaponization? Its not as powerful but 500 kg of 20% enriched uranium could be a pretty large bomb.

 

[Hack-Hook]

With 20% Enrichment quality, should we not be capable of weaponization? Its not as powerful but 500 kg of 20% enriched uranium could be a pretty large bomb.

No you can't make a bomb with even 20 tons of 20% uranium as it won't start a chain reaction.

 

[OldTwilight]

Interesting.

So its similar to our Roman Empire. You know we had Senate and Emperor. In case of war a competent person was chosen from the Emperor. The senate had no say in this aspect.

But there was a security protocol. This meant the leader of the army was not allowed to come close to Rome. You can understand why. When you led the military you have more power then the Emperor and could overthrow him or the Senate. It was not allowed for the military to step over the river Rubikon. Caesar did just this. He marched with the Army against Rome to get full control.

Is there a similar safety meassure in your country?

our kings and leaders often were quick to kill any strong and brilliant general we had ... for example Sourena who beat your 40,000 strong army with just 10,000 troops was killed by the king of that time ... lucky for Rome and Byzantine and almost all of our rivals in history ...

Currently Our army has no good general and IRIGC great and strong Generals ( Like Suleimani ) are in Quds branch which operate outside of Iran .... so there is almost no coup threat for our current leader ....

 

[yavar]

No you can't make a bomb with even 20 tons of 20% uranium as it won't start a chain reaction.

sorry to say this in such way but you dreaming on

 

[ValerioAurelius]

our kings and leaders often were quick to kill any strong and brilliant general we had ... for example Sourena who beat your 40,000 strong army with just 10,000 troops was killed by the king of that time ... lucky for Rome and Byzantine and almost all of our rivals in history ...

Currently Our army has no good general and IRIGC great and strong Generals ( Like Suleimani ) are in Quds branch which operate outside of Iran .... so there is almost no coup threat for our current leader ....

sorry to say this in such way but you dreaming on

He does not dream, he is right. Even with 1000 tons of 20% enriched uranium you dont get a chain reaction running. You have only 20% reactive uranium isotopes. When they start to break apart, their neutrons get absorbed by the 80% normal uranium isotopes. So the reaction stops.

 

[VEVAK]

our kings and leaders often were quick to kill any strong and brilliant general we had ... for example Sourena who beat your 40,000 strong army with just 10,000 troops was killed by the king of that time ... lucky for Rome and Byzantine and almost all of our rivals in history ...

Currently Our army has no good general and IRIGC great and strong Generals ( Like Suleimani ) are in Quds branch which operate outside of Iran .... so there is almost no coup threat for our current leader ....

Your talking nonsense! Iran's Military both the Artesh and IRGC are both together and behind this government! They are all one each with a different responsibility!

It's like claiming that the U.S. army is going to over throw Trump and U.S. maries is going to stop them due to their ideological differences and because they have a famous general called mad dog Mattis! It's absurd!

And there are smart, strong and prominent names in Iran's Artesh!
I would consider General Sulaimani as a great leader for the Qods force because that's where his strengths are as a smart general when it comes to asymmetric expeditionary forces BUT I wouldn't consider General Suleimani as a strong General when it comes to R&D and the development of Iran's Defense industry!
People like Kouchaki, Sayyari, Tehrani Moghadam, Shamkhani & various others are far more responsible & were far more influential when it came to the development of Iran's Defense industry! And if all Iran had was a bunch of ill equipped expeditionary forces then we would have been invaded by now!

IRAN has a republic! Anyone that doesn't like Iran's current policies can choose to join the government and change it from within and within the confines of the law backed by popular vote of the majority! As long as Iran has such a government there will NEVER be a revolution NEVER!

Hell even Iran's supreme leader gets elected by elected representatives of the people! And yes it's a life time job but the supreme leader only sets limits and boundaries and gives council almost always upon request he doesn't implement policy!
The absolute ONLY way there would be a revolution in Iran is if after the supreme leader passes his son goes crazy and tries to take power & that's the absolute ONLY way because there is NO support for such a move among Iranians and it would go against Iran's constitution and Iranian officials, politicians, military leaders & the supreme leaders children are all smart enough to know this!

IRGC Navy acts as Iran's Cost Guard
Iran's Navy acts as Iran's blue water Navy
IRGC Aerospace forces is mainly a Missile and UAV force
IRIAF is mainly a conventional Air Force with fighters,....
Artesh Army Air units "Hava nirous" is mainly a helo and troop & equipment transport force
Artesh ground units are mainly built with equipment and tactics to defend Iranian territory against an invading conventional military
IRGC ground unites are better built to be expeditionary forces (Qods Force ) and or fight in enemy territory with the training and ability to command large Basij forces for defense & to fight at home and abroad against enemies both foreign and domestic using conventional and asymmetric tactics!
IRGC Pasdarand is also for internal security and crowd control (If Artesh doesn't do crowd control it's because they are not equipped and trained to do so)
Iran Air Defense is mainly for Air Defense

So they are all one each with different responsibilities & the fact that Iran has two main branches prevents a Military Coup from ever happening!