The Drums of War? Pentagon Provokes New Crisis With China

[indushek]

I hope when the war breaks out, China will first NUKE India for good so that countries that owe India will not have to pay back too and Kashmir can win her independence at the same time.

Sickest post i have ever read.

 

[mike05]

Sickest post i have ever read.

Agreed, I'm sure many people on all sides won't attest to that statement.

 

[Aeon]

On the contrary, I think a war with China would benefit US immensely! Remember that they have bought cheap chinese goods and still haven't paid them back the 1 trillion dollars they owe to China. To thwart China's progress while at the same time reneging on their debt obligations will be a very good reason for the US to go to war with China.

One of the most sickest posts I ever read.

 

[Frankenstein]

One of the most sickest posts I ever read.

What can you expect from sick minded people, such people think from there toes

 

[chauism]

Is it true that after Mao refused an appeal from an NVA delegation to commit Chinese troops to North Viet Nam to match that of US troops, Mao also issued something called 'Six-Point Directive on the Struggle against U.S. Ships and Aircraft in the South China Sea (1965)' where IF American warplanes violated Chinese airspace, the PLAAF was NOT allowed to intercept?

Actually The Six-Point Directive was issued by CCP Central Military Committee, not by Mao himself in Jan 11th, 1965, because it does not want engage in a war with US on the premise that US will not attack North Vietnam. However after US aircraft flew into China's airspace over Hainan Island between April 8 to April 9th the same year, Mao lifted the order not to attack US aircraft in April 9th by the request of Head of PLA General Staff Headquarters Yang Chengwu. It is quite possible that further US escalation of the war in Vietnam in the intervening monthes also caused Mao to abandoned the restriction against engaging US aircraft.
Then Starting in 1965, China sent anti-aircraft units and engineering battalions to North Vietnam to repair the damage caused by American bombing, rebuild roads and railroads, and to perform other engineering works. This freed North Vietnamese army units for combat in the South. Between 1965 and 1970, over 320,000 Chinese soldiers served in North Vietnam. The peak was in 1967, when 170,000 were stationed there. However China's involvement was not as commited as it did in Korean War. It also withdrew its troops early starting in 1968 and completed its withdrawal in 1970 because of the upcoming conflict with Soviet Union.

 

[Cheetah786]

On the contrary, I think a war with China would benefit US immensely! Remember that they have bought cheap chinese goods and still haven't paid them back the 1 trillion dollars they owe to China. To thwart China's progress while at the same time reneging on their debt obligations will be a very good reason for the US to go to war with China.

From your statement i can understand you are clueless about how world finance works.Its amazing how some Indian members will say any thing for Americans and stand behind their statement even at the expense of coming across as idiots.

 

[amit27]

stupid thread war between china and usa will never happen unless china instigates it.

 

[footmarks]

Even the specter of war and conflict will cause chaos in the financial world. Going to war with China would be like burning your own apartment down to spite your roommate (and taking half the world with it)

This is just some Indian that want to see others destroy the prosperity that they themselves cannot have.

This is not true. Waris not a video game that we would want to play. Whoever will be involved in a war, esp if it is US & China, everybody on this earth will suffer. Its not in anybody's interest to have a war between US & China. I wish it never happens.

Though if it were a videogame (where no real casualities are involved) i would love to see US and China go to war, eventually turning into WW-III with all countries taking sides.

 

[chauism]

This is not true. Waris not a video game that we would want to play. Whoever will be involved in a war, esp if it is US & China, everybody on this earth will suffer. Its not in anybody's interest to have a war between US & China. I wish it never happens.

Though if it were a videogame (where no real casualities are involved) i would love to see US and China go to war, eventually turning into WW-III with all countries taking sides.

There are, They are called C&C Generals and Battlefield 2

In C&C Genenals' campaign mode, US and China are actually fighting alone side of each other as allies though.

 

[footmarks]

There are, They are called C&C Generals and Battlefield 2

In C&C Genenals' campaign mode, US and China are actually fighting alone side of each other as allies though.

As allies!! against whom? The creators of that Video game are better visionaries than many of us here, I must say.

 

[chauism]

As allies!! against whom? The creators of that Video game are better visionaries than many of us here, I must say.

Against Global Libration Army, a fictional terrorist organization.

 

[gambit]

Actually The Six-Point Directive was issued by CCP Central Military Committee, not by Mao himself in Jan 11th, 1965, because it does not want engage in a war with US on the premise that US will not attack North Vietnam. However after US aircraft flew into China's airspace over Hainan Island between April 8 to April 9th the same year, Mao lifted the order not to attack US aircraft in April 9th by the request of Head of PLA General Staff Headquarters Yang Chengwu. It is quite possible that further US escalation of the war in Vietnam in the intervening monthes also caused Mao to abandoned the restriction against engaging US aircraft.
Then Starting in 1965, China sent anti-aircraft units and engineering battalions to North Vietnam to repair the damage caused by American bombing, rebuild roads and railroads, and to perform other engineering works. This freed North Vietnamese army units for combat in the South. Between 1965 and 1970, over 320,000 Chinese soldiers served in North Vietnam. The peak was in 1967, when 170,000 were stationed there. However China's involvement was not as commited as it did in Korean War. It also withdrew its troops early starting in 1968 and completed its withdrawal in 1970 because of the upcoming conflict with Soviet Union.

Very good. You might want to give that history and research lesson to your friend who believe that China 'defeated' the US in the Vietnam War...

 

[chauism]

Very good. You might want to give that history and research lesson to your friend who believe that China 'defeated' the US in the Vietnam War...

I don't think he was saying that China defeated US in Vietnam.

Nethertheless China's effort and contribution to Viet Minh in the Vietnam War should not be neglected. Even before the involvement of China's troop, China provided material and technical support to the Vietnamese communists worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Chinese-supplied rice allowed North Vietnam to pull military-age men from the paddies and imposed a universal draft beginning in 1960. In the summer of 1962, Mao Zedong agreed to supply Hanoi with 90,000 rifles and guns free of charge. So without the help of China, Viet Minh will not be able to successfully fight the US during the war. Ending the Vietnam war also one of the very important topic in the meeting between Nixon, Henry Kissinger and Mao in 1972 summit.

 

[CardSharp]

Actually The Six-Point Directive was issued by CCP Central Military Committee, not by Mao himself in Jan 11th, 1965, because it does not want engage in a war with US on the premise that US will not attack North Vietnam. However after US aircraft flew into China's airspace over Hainan Island between April 8 to April 9th the same year, Mao lifted the order not to attack US aircraft in April 9th by the request of Head of PLA General Staff Headquarters Yang Chengwu. It is quite possible that further US escalation of the war in Vietnam in the intervening monthes also caused Mao to abandoned the restriction against engaging US aircraft.
Then Starting in 1965, China sent anti-aircraft units and engineering battalions to North Vietnam to repair the damage caused by American bombing, rebuild roads and railroads, and to perform other engineering works. This freed North Vietnamese army units for combat in the South. Between 1965 and 1970, over 320,000 Chinese soldiers served in North Vietnam. The peak was in 1967, when 170,000 were stationed there. However China's involvement was not as commited as it did in Korean War. It also withdrew its troops early starting in 1968 and completed its withdrawal in 1970 because of the upcoming conflict with Soviet Union.

Wow I was just about to write the same thing. Did you also read this article ?

Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge - by Bob Seals
Military History Online - Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge

 

[CardSharp]

Very good. You might want to give that history and research lesson to your friend who believe that China 'defeated' the US in the Vietnam War...

(Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge by Bob Seals)

Well the article I quoted is written by an american with pretty good credentials.

"Bob Seals is a retired Army Special Forces officer with service in the 1st and 3rd Special Forces Group, 1st Special Warfare Training Group, SF Command, Security Assistance Training Management Organization, and Special Operations Command-Korea. He is working as an Operations Analyst for General Dynamics Information Technology at the Army Special Operations Digital Training Center, US Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, Fort Bragg, NC."


You will find every piece of information chauism quoted is included in this article. Who has the blinders on now?