The curious case of UAE statement

[BATMAN]

Pakistan considers Kashmir as it's INTEGRAL PART. Saying its India's internal matter is extending support to Indian claims, this amounts to a lot more than just mouthing off like a fool.

I have a better idea lets dump all the Iranian puppies on Iran and Arab poodles on GCC. The remainder of us patriotic Pakistani's will have peace at last.

I would rather term it as an old drive, that has been going on at Pakistani social media and ministries... all these efforts to show our GCC friends in bad light is merely to justify the crimes of Iran against Pakistan.
People here had been justifying Iranian bombings and invasions into Pakistan from one decade... you are simply misquoting the statement of UAE ambassador, just to earn some brownies.

 

[EasyNow]

It's time for a little bit of intellectual and moral honesty here.

Face the facts, to the world's richer countries the poorer ones are expendable. The Pakistani qoum well understands that you do not sacrifice eagles to save crows.

Which is why Pakistan helped decimate Palestinians in Black September, when Myanmar started killing Rohingya, Pakistan sold them jets. Then why are you going around the world lamenting today?

When Pakistan itself is being careful to save it's own economy, it's beyond idiotic to criticise outsiders for holding back support. If you love Kashmir valley that much the answer is simple - go to war. Otherwise build your case without pointing fingers at others.

 

[BATMAN]

use pm portal to expel their Ambassador.

nobody is stopping anyone.

people are just talking while Kashmiris are acting

If there was any real situation, there are enough ministers and advisers around Imran Khan who would not waste the opportunity.

 

[Sheepistanis]

No this is not the idea this is the drive that has been going on in Pakistani social media and ministries... all these efforts to show our GCC friends in bad light is merely to justify the crimes of Iran against Pakistan.
People here had been justifying Iranian bombings and invasions into Pakistan... you are simply misquoting the statement of UAE ambassador, just to earn some brownies.

How convenient for you to rant about Iran and its moronic followers in Pakistan as a perfect deflection when the issue at hand is about UAE back stabbing Pakistan. I am not quoting anything, its there, right in the International media along with publications from their own. They should have refuted the claims in the media if they felt that their ambassador was quoted out of context, but that didn't happen.

 

[El Sidd]

If there was any real situation, there are enough ministers and advisers around Imran Khan who would not waste the opportunity.

He is just stubborn. Wants to emulate peaceful muslim conquests.

Let him get humiliated for delaying fate of Pakistans glorious rise.

 

[BATMAN]

If you love Kashmir valley that much the answer is simple - go to war.

Ooops... actually we have recently arrested the biggest proponent of Kashmir solidarity, without any charge.
That was upon request of India, directly and indirectly !
I can see all the dots connecting quite clearly.

 

[SQ8]

Ambassadors sitting a country so their best not to make their daily lives miserable so hence they try to echo the sentiment of their host nation.

 

[BATMAN]

Ambassadors sitting a country so their best not to make their daily lives miserable so hence they try to echo the sentiment of their host nation.

Possibly.. but that hasn't happened yet in the subject matter.

Out of all the shooting in air... no one has been able to quote me the exact words of ambassador that are against Pakistan.

What no one can change is UAE's state policy and people around Imran Khan are trying to challenge that.

 

[Bratva]

Bro, which words did you highlight?

The person you are debating with is not analyzing the statements of UAE officials and being insistent that we take her interpretation.


Let's analyze the statement of Ambassador and Minister

The UAE has taken note of the Indian government’s decision of non-operationalisation of some sections of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir, said Dr Ahmad Al Banna, the UAE ambassador to India.

Dr Al Banna added: “We also took note of the introduction of Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Bill in the Indian Parliament aimed at replacing Article 370 with the creation of Ladakh region and the state of Jammu and Kashmir as India’s two new Union Territories.”


(In the first two paragraphs, it is crystal clear, Dr Banna is speaking on behalf of UAE government. Not in his personal capacity. In 3rd paragraph)

He commented that from his understanding the reorganisation of states is not a unique incident in the history of independent India and that it was mainly aimed at reducing regional disparity and improving efficiency. He viewed this latest decision related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir as an internal matter

https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/ind...ia-reacts-to-kashmir-decision-1.1565038437014

In the 3rd paragraph The Ambassodor is still speaking on behalf of UAE government, not in his personal capacity. And interpreting the entire situation as per the understanding of State of UAE



- Dr. Gargash didnot refute Ambassador claim which means he endorsed his view which means it is State of UAE stance

- Dr Gargash forgot that kashmir is a UN recognized disputed territory and India is not willing to talk yet he is offering crappy suggestions

-Dr. Gargash is asking India to talk to Pakistan when he knows India has refused so many offers for talks from Imran Khan

- Dr Gargash is rubbing salt on wounds

Yet We should take someone interpretation as an absolute fact

 

[EasyNow]

I am also quite sure that either the deep state or PMIK want to normalise the LOC as a border. While Pakistan does not lack the ability to hurt India but definitely lacks the will.

 

[El Sidd]

The person you are debating with is not analyzing the statements of UAE officials and being insistent that we take her interpretation.


Let's analyze the statement of Ambassador and Minister

The UAE has taken note of the Indian government’s decision of non-operationalisation of some sections of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir, said Dr Ahmad Al Banna, the UAE ambassador to India.

Dr Al Banna added: “We also took note of the introduction of Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Bill in the Indian Parliament aimed at replacing Article 370 with the creation of Ladakh region and the state of Jammu and Kashmir as India’s two new Union Territories.”


(In the first two paragraphs, it is crystal clear, Dr Banna is speaking on behalf of UAE government. Not in his personal capacity. In 3rd paragraph)

He commented that from his understanding the reorganisation of states is not a unique incident in the history of independent India and that it was mainly aimed at reducing regional disparity and improving efficiency. He viewed this latest decision related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir as an internal matter

https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/ind...ia-reacts-to-kashmir-decision-1.1565038437014

In the 3rd paragraph The Ambassodor is still speaking on behalf of UAE government, not in his personal capacity. And interpreting the entire situation as per the understanding of State of UAE



- Dr. Gargash didnot refute Ambassador claim which means he endorsed his view which means it is State of UAE stance

- Dr Gargash forgot that kashmir is a UN recognized disputed territory and India is not willing to talk yet he is offering crappy suggestions

-Dr. Gargash is asking India to talk to Pakistan when he knows India has refused so many offers for talks from Imran Khan

- Dr Gargash is rubbing salt on wounds

Yet We should take someone interpretation as an absolute fact

Its debatable.

at best you can accuse him of being callous in the statement.

at worst you can use it as propaganda


thats what diplomats are told to do as training. His Statement is being discussed more than the anyone else


what are the Chinese saying to UAE if its taken for Propaganda value

PMIK want to normalise the LOC as a border.

Mans a security risk in that case

 

[BATMAN]

The person you are debating with is not analyzing the statements of UAE officials and being insistent that we take her interpretation.


Let's analyze the statement of Ambassador and Minister

The UAE has taken note of the Indian government’s decision of non-operationalisation of some sections of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir, said Dr Ahmad Al Banna, the UAE ambassador to India.

Dr Al Banna added: “We also took note of the introduction of Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Bill in the Indian Parliament aimed at replacing Article 370 with the creation of Ladakh region and the state of Jammu and Kashmir as India’s two new Union Territories.”


(In the first two paragraphs, it is crystal clear, Dr Banna is speaking on behalf of UAE government. Not in his personal capacity. In 3rd paragraph)

He commented that from his understanding the reorganisation of states is not a unique incident in the history of independent India and that it was mainly aimed at reducing regional disparity and improving efficiency. He viewed this latest decision related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir as an internal matter

https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/ind...ia-reacts-to-kashmir-decision-1.1565038437014

In the 3rd paragraph The Ambassodor is still speaking on behalf of UAE government, not in his personal capacity. And interpreting the entire situation as per the understanding of State of UAE



- Dr. Gargash didnot refute Ambassador claim which means he endorsed his view which means it is State of UAE stance

- Dr Gargash forgot that kashmir is a UN recognized disputed territory and India is not willing to talk yet he is offering crappy suggestions

-Dr. Gargash is asking India to talk to Pakistan when he knows India has refused so many offers for talks from Imran Khan

- Dr Gargash is rubbing salt on wounds

Yet We should take someone interpretation as an absolute fact

You are clearly trying to buildup a case out of the gravy of the news editing, i term it as a case of holding on to clutches.

Alleged words of the ambassadors are quoted in one and only reporting agency, with inverted commas which may not change, with all the highlighting effort.
Read again carefully, as follows, nothing more nothing less:

"We are concerned about reports of detentions and urge respect for individual rights and discussion with those in affected communities,"

“We also took note of the introduction of Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Bill in the Indian Parliament aimed at replacing Article 370 with the creation of Ladakh region and the state of Jammu and Kashmir as India’s two new Union Territories.”

“We expect that the changes would improve social justice and security and confidence of the people in the local governance and will encourage further stability and peace,”

"We call on all parties to maintain peace and stability along the Line of Control."

 

[war&peace]

The person you are debating with is not analyzing the statements of UAE officials and being insistent that we take her interpretation.


Let's analyze the statement of Ambassador and Minister

The UAE has taken note of the Indian government’s decision of non-operationalisation of some sections of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir, said Dr Ahmad Al Banna, the UAE ambassador to India.

Dr Al Banna added: “We also took note of the introduction of Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Bill in the Indian Parliament aimed at replacing Article 370 with the creation of Ladakh region and the state of Jammu and Kashmir as India’s two new Union Territories.”


(In the first two paragraphs, it is crystal clear, Dr Banna is speaking on behalf of UAE government. Not in his personal capacity. In 3rd paragraph)

He commented that from his understanding the reorganisation of states is not a unique incident in the history of independent India and that it was mainly aimed at reducing regional disparity and improving efficiency. He viewed this latest decision related to the state of Jammu and Kashmir as an internal matter

https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/ind...ia-reacts-to-kashmir-decision-1.1565038437014

In the 3rd paragraph The Ambassodor is still speaking on behalf of UAE government, not in his personal capacity. And interpreting the entire situation as per the understanding of State of UAE



- Dr. Gargash didnot refute Ambassador claim which means he endorsed his view which means it is State of UAE stance

- Dr Gargash forgot that kashmir is a UN recognized disputed territory and India is not willing to talk yet he is offering crappy suggestions

-Dr. Gargash is asking India to talk to Pakistan when he knows India has refused so many offers for talks from Imran Khan

- Dr Gargash is rubbing salt on wounds

Yet We should take someone interpretation as an absolute fact

Thank you... This is exactly what it is.... I really don't understand why and how someone can try to twist and distort the facts and so much so that he or she starts calling Pakistanis haters because they are not buying his or her interpretation and manipulation..

 

[El Sidd]

Thank you... This is exactly what it is.... I really don't understand why and how someone can try to twist and distort the facts and so much so that he or she starts calling Pakistanis haters because they are not buying his or her interpretation and manipulation..

hahahahaha hahahahahaha

of all the people here. You would say such a thing hahahaha

atleast i can thank the ambassador for his stupid Statement to give me a good laugh at your expense

 

[Bratva]

You are clearly trying to buildup a case out of the gravy of the news editing, i term it as a case of holding on to clutches.

Alleged words of the ambassadors are quoted in one and only reporting agency, with inverted commas which may not change, with all the highlighting effort.
Read again carefully, as follows, nothing more nothing less:

I will ask a simple question. Did State of UAE or Ambassador himself denied his remarks that was attributed to him in which he was speaking on behalf of UAE ?

To add more salth on wounds, Gargash had the audacity to say this specefically

"We expect that the changes would improve social justice and security and confidence of the people in the local governance and will encourage further stability and peace,”"


He is endorsing the India stance of removing Article 370. How is that We are clutching to straws ?

@The Eagle if you want to see official this is the official one:




@Irfan Baloch

My patience does have a limit

When you argue with someone, Don't let your moderation come in the way. Debates should only be censored if they violate Forum rules. You cant let your bias come in the way.If your patience is running out, then don't debate so that you can perform a better moderator job.