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The Changing Face of Britain : Islamophobia

REALLY. Normally Neo-Nazi political movements have both Christian extremism and white supremacist motive.
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Yes,REALLY.Stop grasping at straws just so islamic extremism could have a buddy on the world stage.
 
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Britian should kick all the wahhabi scum from their land I don't know why these civilized countries let these apes in
 
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We have two options: integrate or get out. I'm not talking about your average EDL scum. Many non racist Brits think that there are way too many immigrants in UK, more then their country can handle specially healthcare, housing and jobs. The other problem is certain Muslim communities refuse to integrate. We have people living in UK for last 15-20 years yet can't even put a sentence of English together and talk about Sharia law in England. And then we have British born people like Anjem choudhry who needs to be jailed for inciting hatred or kicked out of UK.

This is a problem, but the Islamophobia and trumped up Immigration politics is also an issue. We can do our part as Muslims to integrate, to start heaving ourselves and getting rid of idiots within our ranks. But the current climate in Britain does the opposite of helping and not all of the response can be justified.

Yes,REALLY.Stop grasping at straws just so islamic extremism could have a buddy on the world stage.

There are some uncanny similarities between right wing nuts in Europe, right wing nuts in the US, and Muslim extremists.
Uncanny. In fact, their views on Islam and Muslims are almost identical too.

Britian should kick all the wahhabi scum from their land I don't know why these civilized countries let these apes in

Easier said than done. Extremists ideologies, overly conservative people will never be punished for being so under British law, only when they endanger others and break the law themselves are they liable to be punished. Even so, how does one kick out people born in the country, raised and living there?

It would go against everything Brits stand for, defeating the very purpose of preserving what's good about Britain.
It's sort of situation where in order to save British values of equality, secularism, and civil liberties, you go ahead and you turn on those values by discriminating and denying their rights and civil liberties to a certain group, it completely defeats the purpose of having those things in the first place and willing to protect them.
 
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This shows mass immigration doesn't work for any country.

Good luck to Europe in the next coming decades. This gives new meaning to the phrase "the enemy within"
 
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This shows mass immigration doesn't work for any country.

Good luck to Europe in the next coming decades. This gives new meaning to the phrase "the enemy within"

Are we still in the dark ages? Wake up, we're living in a new world. If these flags weren't showing, I'd find it difficult to tell where most members are and where they're from. Globalisation, information age, communication of the levels of which has never been witnessed before in the history of humanity. Not only is the absolute level immense, the rate of acceleration is also immense. The developed world is pretty much all the same, same paganistic consumer culture, languages can be different, some old customs kept to.

But only folks who can't get with the times are the problem when it comes to immigration, and also the problem when it comes paranoia about immigration.
 
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Are we still in the dark ages? Wake up, we're living in a new world. If these flags weren't showing, I'd find it difficult to tell where most members are and where they're from. Globalisation, information age, communication of the levels of which has never been witnessed before in the history of humanity. Not only is the absolute level immense, the rate of acceleration is also immense. The developed world is pretty much all the same, same paganistic consumer culture, languages can be different, some old customs kept to.

But only folks who can't get with the times are the problem when it comes to immigration, and also the problem when it comes paranoia about immigration.

Of course we are not living in the dark ages. I call it what it is. There are enough evidence around the web you can find that mass immigration does not have useful purposes for the host country.
 
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Well the whole world is moving towards far right. So nothing surprising. In London there are more immigrants than natives so it's natural for them to feel threatened like the Muslim who say 'Islam khatre mein hai'. Btw there is no danger to Islam in Pakistan compared to what natives face in Britain. It's true that in 2050 there will be more immigrants and their children in Britain than natives. I know I will be labelled hindutwawadi after this but what I have written is fact and for this only Britain is responsible, they have brought this upon themselves. No one to blame. Crook like anjem chaudhary roaming and threatening natives.

Well the Brits will now know that a Payback is a Bi*ch
 
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Of course we are not living in the dark ages. I call it what it is. There are enough evidence around the web you can find that mass immigration does not have useful purposes for the host country.

Oh really? You know how much immigrants contributed to Britain as one example. Please do some research you'll find the results not your liking. Unchecked immigration is not a good policy. But here, the immigration started after world war II, where those in charge were practically asking for people to come over here and work. And they did, often doing thankless jobs.

Even today, immigrants in the UK make a net contribution to public finances, ie they pay more in taxes than they get back from the system (perhaps not all of them or some individuals, but the overall trend suggests this), they are also more productive, they tend to be younger and not settled, so they end up being more productive. They also increase the efficiency of certain markets where they are present, the negative effect is that they can often be exploited and also bring down wage prices relative to inflation for certain industries. Another aspect people conveniently ignore is the masses of immigrants in the higher education system, thousands of international EU, non-EU students paying in tens of thousands a year into our universities, also having these bright young minds around is what keeps British universities still on the world map. A lot of the others tend to be highly skilled workers, and people who do jobs here that locals cannot or are unwilling to do.

Now, the last argument against immigration is the social impact. This is perhaps the weakest argument, History is a witness to the fact that not all social change is bad, and people often find themselves on the wrong side of history. Receding culture as a result of the presence of immigrants is as weak as an argument as enrichment of culture due to the presence of immigrants. Sure, having foreign folk around will change your area, the culture they will bring with them, but this does not have to be a bad thing. I'm a Londoner, and no-one seems to mind the diverse culture. Right wing parties like UKIP historically fail where immigration is higher, in London they failed. London's immigrant population and non-white population is HUGE, yet the White British vote within London completely rejected parties pushing on immigration only, such as UKIP. Places where immigration is 2% barely, out in the country, suburbia is where UKIP gets most of it's seats from. So this argument is a lame one.

Going back to my point about a changing world I am 99% sure that people who wan't to cap immigration are not only on the wrong side of history with regards to social change, they are also going be damaging many aspects of their own country in the long run, starting with the economy.

Well the Brits will now know that a Payback is a Bi*ch

What payback? What kind of backward idea would force people to pay for the wrongs of generations gone by?
Should we still punish Germans for Nazi Germany? The Japanese for the crimes of Imperial Japan? How about White Americans for the Native American genocide? Italy for the rimes of Roman Empire? In fact, you can apply this logic to any oppressor in history.

Before you know it, everyone deserves some payback. Brits are great people, and I don't see why people ITT are seeing this as some sort of pay back, as if that's even a good thing.
 
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Oh really? You know how much immigrants contributed to Britain as one example. Please do some research you'll find the results not your liking. Unchecked immigration is not a good policy. But here, the immigration started after world war II, where those in charge were practically asking for people to come over here and work. And they did, often doing thankless jobs.

Even today, immigrants in the UK make a net contribution to public finances, ie they pay more in taxes than they get back from the system (perhaps not all of them or some individuals, but the overall trend suggests this), they are also more productive, they tend to be younger and not settled, so they end up being more productive. They also increase the efficiency of certain markets where they are present, the negative effect is that they can often be exploited and also bring down wage prices relative to inflation for certain industries. Another aspect people conveniently ignore is the masses of immigrants in the higher education system, thousands of international EU, non-EU students paying in tens of thousands a year into our universities, also having these bright young minds around is what keeps British universities still on the world map. A lot of the others tend to be highly skilled workers, and people who do jobs here that locals cannot or are unwilling to do.

Now, the last argument against immigration is the social impact. This is perhaps the weakest argument, History is a witness to the fact that not all social change is bad, and people often find themselves on the wrong side of history. Receding culture as a result of the presence of immigrants is as weak as an argument as enrichment of culture due to the presence of immigrants. Sure, having foreign folk around will change your area, the culture they will bring with them, but this does not have to be a bad thing. I'm a Londoner, and no-one seems to mind the diverse culture. Right wing parties like UKIP historically fail where immigration is higher, in London they failed. London's immigrant population and non-white population is HUGE, yet the White British vote within London completely rejected parties pushing on immigration only, such as UKIP. Places where immigration is 2% barely, out in the country, suburbia is where UKIP gets most of it's seats from. So this argument is a lame one.

Going back to my point about a changing world I am 99% sure that people who wan't to cap immigration are not only on the wrong side of history with regards to social change, they are also going be damaging many aspects of their own country in the long run, starting with the economy.



What payback? What kind of backward idea would force people to pay for the wrongs of generations gone by?
Should we still punish Germans for Nazi Germany? The Japanese for the crimes of Imperial Japan? How about White Americans for the Native American genocide? Italy for the rimes of Roman Empire? In fact, you can apply this logic to any oppressor in history.

Before you know it, everyone deserves some payback. Brits are great people, and I don't see why people ITT are seeing this as some sort of pay back, as if that's even a good thing.

Calm down man that was a joke
more I have many Brit friends both on this forum & in real life
On a more serious note
Brits should start from deporting people like anjum chai dry if they want to stop the spread of Islamphobia & rise of the far right
 
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Calm down man that was a joke
more I have many Brit friends both on this forum & in real life
On a more serious note
Brits should start from deporting people like anjum chai dry if they want to stop the spread of Islamphobia & rise of the far right

I'd like to send this guy to another star system if possible, but he's British it just isn't possible to deport him. We should have him behind bars and far from other inmates so he can't radicalise them.

Despicable SOB he is.
 
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I'd like to send this guy to another star system if possible, but he's British it just isn't possible to deport him. We should have him behind bars and far from other inmates so he can't radicalise them.

Despicable SOB he is.

I think the Brit intelligence should secretly assassinate him
 
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Cant blame entire Brits.But west previous short term interests is now haunting them.It was the west that created this Frankeinstein monster and divide and rule policy.Those by products of that wrecked policies undegone a lot of mutation and now staring the so called developed society.

Can we asassinate Owaisis in here ?
I dont think so.Same goes to that Anjem retard.
I think the Brit intelligence should secretly assassinate him
 
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