The Balance of Air power in Sub-continent considering latest inductions of Platforms / capabilities by PAF
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UAE DESERT VIPERS F-16 BLOCK -60s
PARKED WITH PAF BLOCK -52s
ANATOLIAN EAGLE 2023
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Block 60 aero-braking with a slightly higher AOA than normal, and the result:
The exhaust nozzle literally making contact with the runway. Fine margins indeed.
Delta Canard Powerful Qatari Euro Fighters -
The role of Aggressors suits them
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PAF CREW AT AE 2023 KONYA
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Azerbaijan Su-25 armed with KGK Glide Bomb at AE Konya 2023
Su-25 carrying a pair of Turkish-developed KGK guidance and wing kits for Mk.8X-class Western dumb bombs, suggesting Turkish upgrades have enabled the carriage of Western bombs and given the Su-25 a stand-off capability.
ANATOLIAN EAGLE 2023 ENDS
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TURKIYE'S PRIDE
The TF-X prototype uses General Electric’s F110 engine, but Ankara wants an indigenous powerplant for the platform.
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TF-23 MMU AIR SUPERIORITY FIGHTER JET KAAN FLYING WITH F-16s
A DREAM WHICH MAY TURN INTO REALITY FOR PAF ALSO.
SIZE i.e CAPACITY COMPARISON WITH F-35
The TF-X prototype uses General Electric’s F110 engine, but Ankara wants an indigenous powerplant for the platform.
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TF-23 MMU AIR SUPERIORITY FIGHTER JET KAAN FLYING WITH F-16s
A DREAM WHICH MAY TURN INTO REALITY FOR PAF ALSO.
SIZE i.e CAPACITY COMPARISON WITH F-35
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AKINCI - CAKIR WITH ITAR FREE ENGINE
KTJ-3200 & KTJ-1750 Engines Will Not Be Affected by Export Restrictions!
A design architecture consisting of a 4-stage axial compressor, annular combustion chamber and a single-stage turbine is used in both KTJ-3200 and KTJ-1750 Turbojet Engines.
Aluminum is used on the front (Compressor) of the engines, and special alloys and Nickel Super Alloy materials are used on the rear (Combustion Chamber and Turbine).
Both engines, which stand out with their low fuel consumption and ability to start at different altitude/speed conditions, use solid (one-piece) machined rotors in the compressors, which have low fuel consumption and are thermodynamically very efficient.
Both engines are ITAR Free as they do not contain any materials or products subject to export restrictions.
KTJ-3200 & KTJ-1750 Engines Will Not Be Affected by Export Restrictions!
A design architecture consisting of a 4-stage axial compressor, annular combustion chamber and a single-stage turbine is used in both KTJ-3200 and KTJ-1750 Turbojet Engines.
Aluminum is used on the front (Compressor) of the engines, and special alloys and Nickel Super Alloy materials are used on the rear (Combustion Chamber and Turbine).
Both engines, which stand out with their low fuel consumption and ability to start at different altitude/speed conditions, use solid (one-piece) machined rotors in the compressors, which have low fuel consumption and are thermodynamically very efficient.
Both engines are ITAR Free as they do not contain any materials or products subject to export restrictions.
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Tejas MK2 would go ahead once the GE - 414 engine ToT clearance is received from US.
In addition to Tejas MK-2 & AMCA -
IAF & DRDO's Omni role Combat aircraft or O.R.C.A.
It will weigh around 23 tonnes.
Basically it's an indian version of Rafale 4.5+ Gen Jet is planned for production around 2030 - 32.
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AKBABA - THE VULTURE
THE POTENTIAL MOST EFFECTIVE ANTI DODE FOR AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS
Next Gen. ramjet powered Anti-Radiation Missile named "AKBABA"
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The Russian anti-aircraft radar systems, BUK , TOR , PANTSIR & most famous being S-300 & S-400 - which have made it very challenging for the Ukrainian Air Force to fly over substantial portions of Ukrainian airspace, is also deployed by India.
Turkish Vulture missile will have unique capabilities as Turkiye has the first hand knowledge of employing S-400 Systems and developing anti-dodes for it with integration on UAVs such as Akinci , manned jets such as F-18s and KAAN.
In future - Akbaba missiles can be employed on JF-17C in future or on KAAN if selected for PAF to target & eliminate these systems.
Additionally, the missiles can hit Counter-battery radars, which India employs to attack Pakistani artillery.
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The Anti-radiation or H.A.R.M missile AKBABA , whose name was officially announced last year and whose development work continues by ROKETSAN , will have similar features to the AGM-88 HARM Missile. Information leaked to the Turkish Press claims that the missile will have capabilities that far surpass those of its competitors- can even track its target once radar is turned off.
Example is USAF The F-16C is the only aircraft in the Air Force current inventory to use the AGM-88.
Put simply, anti-radiation missiles (of this sort) home in on the radar air defense systems use to detect and engage incoming aircraft, making these missiles a valuable weapon in the initial days of a conflict when America’s warfare doctrine calls for establishing air superiority.
As radar arrays come online to detect incoming aircraft, those aircraft can fire high-speed anti-radiation missiles (HARM) like the AARGM to follow the radio waves back to their source and destroy it.
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The big innovation in the HARM was in its intelligent (radar) video processor based seeker, which was designed to recognise the characteristic Pulse Repetition Frequencies (PRF) of threat radars, in a manner similar to that performed by an RWR.
This would allow the missile to select a specific radar operating in any given band. Indeed, the HARM offered higher sensitivity and frequency coverage than many earlier RWRs in US service, and aircraft carrying the HARM often used it to supplement the RWR.
HARM : High-speed anti-radiation missile, is an air-to-surface tactical missile designed to seek and destroy enemy radar-equipped air defense systems.
The proportional guidance system that hones in on enemy radar emissions has a fixed antenna and seeker head in the missile nose. A smokeless, solid-propellant, dual-thrust rocket motor propels the missile.
SEAD : Mission planned for the neutralization of enemy radar and air defense systems as Priority targets in first phase. This allows Multi role jets to freely use A2G Weapons and Air Superiority sorties without potential missile threats from ground.
[Below : Wreckage Of Russian Tor SAM system after meeting AGM88 HARM anti radiation missile]
The AKBABA Missile, which will undertake the task of suppressing enemy air defense systems, is expected to be capable of attacking fixed or mobile targets such as ships on land or sea.
AKBABA anti-radiation missile needs only 4.2 seconds of active radar emission to identify and track its target. Even if radar is turned off Akbaba has ability to trace the route of the radar emission. Radar can then also be visually confirmed by data-link to central command.
Anti-radiation missiles are very difficult to detect and destroy with the Passive detection & supersonic speeds they can reach. Element of surprise for enemy AD as soon as their radars start emitting signals.
Since the AKBABA Missile project, like many other projects of Turkish Military, is carried out in secrecy with very less details , its actual features such as weight and range have not been disclosed yet.
However, the missile, which is expected to have a passive RF head and an AESA radar, is also among a few features that are claimed to be able to reach supersonic speeds and have Ramjet propulsion.
The anti-radiation missile AKBABA, produced by Roketsan, will be developed to be used in SEAD missions to suppress enemy air defense,
And the 151st Tunç Fleet, the fleet responsible for SEAD missions in Turkey, will use the locally produced AKBABA missile for this mission.
In addition, the AKBABA missile is planned to be integrated into the National Combat Aircraft KAAN, due to its versatile aircraft, and to be used in national unmanned warplanes, which are under development.
Four basic operating modes.
The Pre-Brief, Pre-Emptive or Position-Known (PB/PE/POS) mode is a Lock On After Launch (LOAL) mode, and is used for standoff maximum range attacks on emitters of a known type and location, within several degrees of the missile boresight. This is the basic mode used by dedicated defence suppression (SEAD) aircraft.
In PB/PE/POS mode, the aircraft's Emitter Locating System (ELS) determines the identity and position of the target, which are downloaded to the missile. The launch aircraft will then toss the missile to impart the best possible range. The missile flies on inertial guidance until it acquires the target, and then homes to impact. The PB/PE/POS mode is essentially offensive and most commonly used when taking down an IADS.
A sub-mode of the PB/PE/POS mode is Equations-Of-Motion (EOM) mode which allows more precise selection of emitters at maximum range, in a high density environment. The EOM mode is more specific than PB mode in terms of target selection, and can engage off axis if required, but requires more precise target position information than the baseline PB mode. The target position data can be provided by an onboard receiver or datalinked from an external source .
The Target Of Opportunity (TOO) mode, also termed the HARM as Sensor (HAS) or Direct Attack (DA) mode is a lock-on-before-launch (LOBL) mode in which the missile receiver is used before launch to acquire the target. This mode allows off axis attacks on emitters within the field of view of the seeker. It is typically used as an offensive mode by non-dedicated strike aircraft to suppress emitters.
Anticipated Features
THE POTENTIAL MOST EFFECTIVE ANTI DODE FOR AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS
Next Gen. ramjet powered Anti-Radiation Missile named "AKBABA"
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The Russian anti-aircraft radar systems, BUK , TOR , PANTSIR & most famous being S-300 & S-400 - which have made it very challenging for the Ukrainian Air Force to fly over substantial portions of Ukrainian airspace, is also deployed by India.
Turkish Vulture missile will have unique capabilities as Turkiye has the first hand knowledge of employing S-400 Systems and developing anti-dodes for it with integration on UAVs such as Akinci , manned jets such as F-18s and KAAN.
In future - Akbaba missiles can be employed on JF-17C in future or on KAAN if selected for PAF to target & eliminate these systems.
Additionally, the missiles can hit Counter-battery radars, which India employs to attack Pakistani artillery.
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The Anti-radiation or H.A.R.M missile AKBABA , whose name was officially announced last year and whose development work continues by ROKETSAN , will have similar features to the AGM-88 HARM Missile. Information leaked to the Turkish Press claims that the missile will have capabilities that far surpass those of its competitors- can even track its target once radar is turned off.
Example is USAF The F-16C is the only aircraft in the Air Force current inventory to use the AGM-88.
Put simply, anti-radiation missiles (of this sort) home in on the radar air defense systems use to detect and engage incoming aircraft, making these missiles a valuable weapon in the initial days of a conflict when America’s warfare doctrine calls for establishing air superiority.
As radar arrays come online to detect incoming aircraft, those aircraft can fire high-speed anti-radiation missiles (HARM) like the AARGM to follow the radio waves back to their source and destroy it.
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The big innovation in the HARM was in its intelligent (radar) video processor based seeker, which was designed to recognise the characteristic Pulse Repetition Frequencies (PRF) of threat radars, in a manner similar to that performed by an RWR.
This would allow the missile to select a specific radar operating in any given band. Indeed, the HARM offered higher sensitivity and frequency coverage than many earlier RWRs in US service, and aircraft carrying the HARM often used it to supplement the RWR.
HARM : High-speed anti-radiation missile, is an air-to-surface tactical missile designed to seek and destroy enemy radar-equipped air defense systems.
The proportional guidance system that hones in on enemy radar emissions has a fixed antenna and seeker head in the missile nose. A smokeless, solid-propellant, dual-thrust rocket motor propels the missile.
SEAD : Mission planned for the neutralization of enemy radar and air defense systems as Priority targets in first phase. This allows Multi role jets to freely use A2G Weapons and Air Superiority sorties without potential missile threats from ground.
[Below : Wreckage Of Russian Tor SAM system after meeting AGM88 HARM anti radiation missile]
The AKBABA Missile, which will undertake the task of suppressing enemy air defense systems, is expected to be capable of attacking fixed or mobile targets such as ships on land or sea.
AKBABA anti-radiation missile needs only 4.2 seconds of active radar emission to identify and track its target. Even if radar is turned off Akbaba has ability to trace the route of the radar emission. Radar can then also be visually confirmed by data-link to central command.
Anti-radiation missiles are very difficult to detect and destroy with the Passive detection & supersonic speeds they can reach. Element of surprise for enemy AD as soon as their radars start emitting signals.
Since the AKBABA Missile project, like many other projects of Turkish Military, is carried out in secrecy with very less details , its actual features such as weight and range have not been disclosed yet.
However, the missile, which is expected to have a passive RF head and an AESA radar, is also among a few features that are claimed to be able to reach supersonic speeds and have Ramjet propulsion.
The anti-radiation missile AKBABA, produced by Roketsan, will be developed to be used in SEAD missions to suppress enemy air defense,
And the 151st Tunç Fleet, the fleet responsible for SEAD missions in Turkey, will use the locally produced AKBABA missile for this mission.
In addition, the AKBABA missile is planned to be integrated into the National Combat Aircraft KAAN, due to its versatile aircraft, and to be used in national unmanned warplanes, which are under development.
Four basic operating modes.
The Pre-Brief, Pre-Emptive or Position-Known (PB/PE/POS) mode is a Lock On After Launch (LOAL) mode, and is used for standoff maximum range attacks on emitters of a known type and location, within several degrees of the missile boresight. This is the basic mode used by dedicated defence suppression (SEAD) aircraft.
In PB/PE/POS mode, the aircraft's Emitter Locating System (ELS) determines the identity and position of the target, which are downloaded to the missile. The launch aircraft will then toss the missile to impart the best possible range. The missile flies on inertial guidance until it acquires the target, and then homes to impact. The PB/PE/POS mode is essentially offensive and most commonly used when taking down an IADS.
A sub-mode of the PB/PE/POS mode is Equations-Of-Motion (EOM) mode which allows more precise selection of emitters at maximum range, in a high density environment. The EOM mode is more specific than PB mode in terms of target selection, and can engage off axis if required, but requires more precise target position information than the baseline PB mode. The target position data can be provided by an onboard receiver or datalinked from an external source .
The Target Of Opportunity (TOO) mode, also termed the HARM as Sensor (HAS) or Direct Attack (DA) mode is a lock-on-before-launch (LOBL) mode in which the missile receiver is used before launch to acquire the target. This mode allows off axis attacks on emitters within the field of view of the seeker. It is typically used as an offensive mode by non-dedicated strike aircraft to suppress emitters.
Anticipated Features
- Weight: 350 - 380 kgs
- Length: 4.1 - 4.3 meters
- Block -1 Effective Range: 100+ kms
- Speed: 2+ Mach
- Guidance System: Passive radar
- Propulsion : Ramjet ?
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INDIAN VERSION OF ANKA - III DEEP STRIKE UNMANNED BOMBER
GHATAK UAV WITH 49KN KAVERI DRY ENGINE
PLANNED FOR 2025 - 2026
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M.Z Siddique, has now been appointed the Director General of DRDO Aeronautical Cluster (DG-Aero) , He will be oversight for ADRDE, ADE , CABS , CEMILAC and GTRE
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Rustom - 2 TAPAS
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Against contract of 15 gunships - HAL completes the delivery of 15 LCH Prachand to Indian Army & Airforce .
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Air Force plans to start RETIRING its Jaguar attack jets from 2027 and all will be retired till 2035. IAF currently operates 80 such aircrafts and they're very important strike platforms. These will be replaced by Made in India 4.0 Gen jets.
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SWIFT RETORT LEARNINGS FOR RAPTOR OF THE EAST
GHATAK UAV WITH 49KN KAVERI DRY ENGINE
PLANNED FOR 2025 - 2026
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M.Z Siddique, has now been appointed the Director General of DRDO Aeronautical Cluster (DG-Aero) , He will be oversight for ADRDE, ADE , CABS , CEMILAC and GTRE
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Rustom - 2 TAPAS
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Against contract of 15 gunships - HAL completes the delivery of 15 LCH Prachand to Indian Army & Airforce .
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Air Force plans to start RETIRING its Jaguar attack jets from 2027 and all will be retired till 2035. IAF currently operates 80 such aircrafts and they're very important strike platforms. These will be replaced by Made in India 4.0 Gen jets.
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SWIFT RETORT LEARNINGS FOR RAPTOR OF THE EAST
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IAF's epic incompetence is like God-gifted for Pak; otherwise, India would have taken the full advantage of Pak's current situation....
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MANNED - UNMANNED TEAMING
AIR POWER CONCPET OF TURKISH MILITARY
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"The 5th Generation Fighter Aircraft National Combat Aircraft KAAN produced by Turkey will break a new ground in the world! Our National Combat Aircraft KAAN will not only command the aircraft ;
But will personally command our Unmanned Combat Aircraft and SİHAs, such as ANKA-III and Kızılelma, which will work together.
All countries will be surprised by this, and now Turkey will show the world that it has produced its own Manned and Unmanned Combat Aircraft, that it flies, and that they work together."
"MMU KAAN will be able to carry 10 tons of ammunition and it is aimed to make its first flight in November this year. In the first stage, it is aimed to deliver 40 KAANs with engines supplied from the USA."
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AIR POWER CONCPET OF TURKISH MILITARY
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"The 5th Generation Fighter Aircraft National Combat Aircraft KAAN produced by Turkey will break a new ground in the world! Our National Combat Aircraft KAAN will not only command the aircraft ;
But will personally command our Unmanned Combat Aircraft and SİHAs, such as ANKA-III and Kızılelma, which will work together.
All countries will be surprised by this, and now Turkey will show the world that it has produced its own Manned and Unmanned Combat Aircraft, that it flies, and that they work together."
"MMU KAAN will be able to carry 10 tons of ammunition and it is aimed to make its first flight in November this year. In the first stage, it is aimed to deliver 40 KAANs with engines supplied from the USA."
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THE F-16 MODERNIZATION PROGRAM PHASE - 2 BY TURKIYE IS "KEENLY WATCHED" BY OTHER F-16 OPERATORS AROUND THE GLOBE
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ANATOLIAN EAGLE 2023 ENDS
Anatolian Eagle 2023 : First Female Fighter Pilot of Pakistan Air Force who qualified for F-16 Fighting Falcons. She flew along side her male counterparts in one of the world's most intense aerial exercise held in Turkiye
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ASELSAN PROJECTS TIME LINES NEXT 7 YEARS
EFFECTING AKINCI , KAAN & OTHER ASSETS OF PAF INTEREST
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As per presentation ASELSAN Deputy General Manager Dr. Mustafa AKKUL shared :
Time lines of important Projects :
EFFECTING AKINCI , KAAN & OTHER ASSETS OF PAF INTEREST
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As per presentation ASELSAN Deputy General Manager Dr. Mustafa AKKUL shared :
Time lines of important Projects :
- HÜRJET AESA Radar, AKBABA and HİSAR-D in 2024
- GÖKHAN DG & KAAN MMU Nasal Radar 2026
- GPR, UAV Early Warning and Aircraft Early Warning Radars integrated into the drone in 2027
- Trench Ballistic Interception in 2028,
- VHF Early Warning Radar in 2029
- ÇAFRAD Phase-2 and GÖKTÜRK-III SAR Radars will also be delivered in 2030
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