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Pakistan won't hand over Mumbai suspects | The Australian

Pakistan won't hand over Mumbai suspects
By Claire Cozens in Islamabad, Pakistan | December 09, 2008

Article from: Agence France-Presse
PAKISTAN says it will not hand over any suspects in the Mumbai bombings to India, after authorities arrested 15 people in a raid on an Islamic charity linked to a banned militant group.

India has repeatedly said that the hardline Lashkar-e-Taiba organisation was behind last month's carnage in Mumbai, which saw attackers go on a grenade and gun spree in the city that left 172 people dead and more than 300 wounded.

With tensions rising between the nuclear-armed neighbours over the bloodshed, India had demanded that Pakistan hand over militant suspects - but Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said that was out of the question.

"The arrests are being made for our own investigations. Even if allegations are proved against any suspect, he will not be handed over to India," the minister said. "We will proceed against those arrested under Pakistani laws."

India and Pakistan have fought three wars since independence from Britain and nearly came to a fourth in 2001 after an attack on the Indian parliament that was blamed on Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), which means Army of the Pious.

Under international pressure to act, Pakistan on Sunday raided a camp run by a charity, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, that many believe has close links to Lashkar-e-Taiba, and arrested 15 people.

The charity is headed by LeT's founder Hafiz Saeed.

The LeT has been banned by Pakistan, but India accuses Islamabad of not cracking down on the group, which was established to fight Indian rule in Kashmir and has past links to Pakistani intelligence services and al-Qaeda.

Mr Saeed yesterday condemned the arrests, saying the Pakistan Government had shown "weakness by targeting Kashmiri organisations".

Two of the three India-Pakistan wars were fought over disputed Kashmir, which is controlled in part but claimed in whole by both nations, and the United States in particular has urged calm after the bloodshed in Mumbai.

Mr Qureshi said his country did not want war but was prepared to defend itself if necessary.

"We do not want to impose war, but we are fully prepared in case war is imposed on us. We are not oblivious to our responsibilities to defend our homeland. But it is our desire that there should be no war," he said.

Meanwhile, Pakistan authorities are said to be questioning a 16th man, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, who was arrested on Saturday.

Indian media says the lone surviving attacker named him as a key planner behind the Mumbai attacks.

India has said that all 10 of the gunmen who carried out the brazen assault on Mumbai, the country's financial capital, were from Pakistan.

The attackers, some of whom arrived by boat, targeted two luxury hotels, a hospital, a Jewish centre and other sites. They managed to hold off Indian security forces for 60 hours before nine were killed and one was captured.
 
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I know this done just to ease the tension for a while ,thats it .Nothing more.
 
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The initial optimism that Pak will do something constructative now seems less likely. Certainly Maulana Azhar, Tiger Menon and Dawood Ibrahim is not much of a big ask ! For one, they are not nationalist leaders but hardcore terrorists.

Pak has as much to lose as India by keeping these rogues at home !! For one, Islamic terrrorism is now a very big threat in Pak, more so than India. These terrorists are killing fellow muslims that dont follow their narrow version of Islam in Pakistan !

The response from the Pak govt is certainly very dissapointing and will surely hurt the peace process !!
 
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The initial optimism that Pak will do something constructative now seems less likely. Certainly Maulana Azhar, Tiger Menon and Dawood Ibrahim is not much of a big ask ! For one, they are not nationalist leaders but hardcore terrorists.

Pak has as much to lose as India by keeping these rogues at home !! For one, Islamic terrrorism is now a very big threat in Pak, more so than India. These terrorists are killing fellow muslims that dont follow their narrow version of Islam in Pakistan !

The response from the Pak govt is certainly very dissapointing and will surely hurt the peace process !!
Dude they are in jail, what else did you expect to happen here?

We're following our own investigation here. India refused to jointly work with us themselves.
 
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The initial optimism that Pak will do something constructative now seems less likely. Certainly Maulana Azhar, Tiger Menon and Dawood Ibrahim is not much of a big ask ! For one, they are not nationalist leaders but hardcore terrorists.

Pak has as much to lose as India by keeping these rogues at home !! For one, Islamic terrrorism is now a very big threat in Pak, more so than India. These terrorists are killing fellow muslims that dont follow their narrow version of Islam in Pakistan !

The response from the Pak govt is certainly very dissapointing and will surely hurt the peace process !!
Dude they are in jail, what else did you expect to happen here?

We're following our own investigation here. India refused to jointly work with us themselves.
 
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These guys were rounded up during Musharraf's time as well, but were soon released on some pretext or the other.

Until they are either jailed for life or hanged, their arrest means nothing.
 
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These guys were rounded up during Musharraf's time as well, but were soon released on some pretext or the other.

Until they are either jailed for life or hanged, their arrest means nothing.
Well there were key events during Musharraf's time.

1. The Agra Summit failed and sent Pak-Ind relations south.
2. 9/11 happened
3. India amassed 1million troops to attack Pakistan.
 
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These guys were rounded up during Musharraf's time as well, but were soon released on some pretext or the other.

Until they are either jailed for life or hanged, their arrest means nothing.

It is a joke that these guys will be tried in Pakistan, when they should have been tried in India for they have perpetrated these dastardly acts in India. I sense that it is all going to be a hog wash.
 
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There is no question that these people (if proven guilty to be terrorists) will be tried in Pakistan. This is a democratically elected government, and it wouldn't do anything stupid like Musharraf did. I welcome this policy, and this is the policy that we should stood by.
 
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It is a joke that these guys will be tried in Pakistan, when they should have been tried in India for they have perpetrated these dastardly acts in India. I sense that it is all going to be a hog wash.
Will you give us any on our list handed to you?

There are many people wanted for scores of bombings in Pakistan hiding under India's protection.
 
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Will you give us any on our list handed to you?

There are many people wanted for scores of bombings in Pakistan hiding under India's protection.

Will you give us then Dawood Ibrahim, Masood Azhar, Hafiz Saeed and others?. If that is the case India wouldn't mind giving any of them, but I think it has to be two ways. The question will be who will blink first.

I also remember the case of Khalistani Hijacker in 1970s or so. He was tried in Paksitan, convicted by Pakistani courts. And guess what, he served his jail term in a Gurudwar. When India asked him to be extradited, pakistan denied that he is present in Pakistan. I sense some similar things going to happen here.
 
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It is a joke that these guys will be tried in Pakistan, when they should have been tried in India for they have perpetrated these dastardly acts in India. I sense that it is all going to be a hog wash.

There's always hope....

The hope is that the US will keep the pressure on them, and its up to India to convince them that these guys are a threat to the US of A and the western world in general.

If India can manage to link its own terrorism problems with the global WOT, there's a good chance that our people will get justice. The Mumbai attack made our job easier, since Jews and Americans were targeted.

Earlier the US was not even willing to label these guys as terrorists. Today, that has changed.

Lets wait and watch.
 
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There's always hope....

The hope is that the US will keep the pressure on them, and its up to India to convince them that these guys are a threat to the US of A and the western world in general.

If India can manage to link its own terrorism problems with the global WOT, there's a good chance that our people will get justice. The Mumbai attack made our job easier, since Jews and Americans were targeted.

Earlier the US was not even willing to label these guys as terrorists. Today, that has changed.

Lets wait and watch.

When it comes to handing over suspects to other countries, Pakistan will be doing in a normal way, but when it comes to handing over to India, the equations change completely.

Remember, post 9/11 Pakistan has handed over around 200 suspects to US to be sent to Gitmo, I don't know on what basis that was done. In this case at least, if India submits enough evidence implicating them in the attack, they should be handover to India. Yes, now some one will say India is not US, I know.

Let's wait and watch. I'm not holding my breath though.
 
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