The arrests are being made for our own investigations,handover out of the question:FM

[EagleEyes]

Will you give us then Dawood Ibrahim, Masood Azhar, Hafiz Saeed and others?. If that is the case India wouldn't mind giving any of them, but I think it has to be two ways. The question will be who will blink first.

I also remember the case of Khalistani Hijacker in 1970s or so. He was tried in Paksitan, convicted by Pakistani courts. And guess what, he served his jail term in a Gurudwar. When India asked him to be extradited, pakistan denied that he is present in Pakistan. I sense some similar things going to happen here.

Well, Pakistan has been blinking for a while. I has released hundred of Indian prisoners, while there was no response from the next door. So i dont think Pakistan is very interested in that blinking game anymore.

 

[Flintlock]

These attacks have made a lot of rich, influential people in the world very, very angry.

Remember that Mumbai is home to the Tatas, the Ambanis, the Birlas, the Godrejs. A lot of big names are feeling very unsafe. These guys have connections - and they are going to use them.

 

[Awesome]

Will you give us then Dawood Ibrahim, Masood Azhar, Hafiz Saeed and others?. If that is the case India wouldn't mind giving any of them, but I think it has to be two ways. The question will be who will blink first.

YOU SHOULD give us all the people we asked for or at least try them in India and not let them roam around free. And don't link it to some exchange.

1. Dawood Ibrahim is not in Pakistan. The media of today reached Faridkot and found out that Kazim was in fact from Faridkot. Nobody has been able to prove Dawood is still in Pak?

2. Masood Azhar is wanted for bombings in Pak. When hes caught he'd be in Pak jails. As far as I know since his release he didn't bomb a single place in India. He is suspected to be in collaboration with India. Once hes caught if Indian collaborators are found they too would be asked for.

3. Hafiz Saeed has done nothing wrong. Since LeT was banned he gave up the militant ways. As reports have it, he's no longer the militant chief and runs Jamaat-ud-Dawaa. The Jamaat's official support to LeT is not proven and is only assumed because of Hafiz. That's why even India has stopped asking for him and asked for Lakhvi instead. If you want to argue otherwise, then you'll first have to prove it here in Pak.

I also remember the case of Khalistani Hijacker in 1970s or so. He was tried in Paksitan, convicted by Pakistani courts. And guess what, he served his jail term in a Gurudwar. When India asked him to be extradited, pakistan denied that he is present in Pakistan. I sense some similar things going to happen here.

He served his sentence, then why should he be extradited? He did his time. That is proof that Pak jails even criminals who have committed crimes against India.

 

[daredevil]

Well, Pakistan has been blinking for a while. I has released hundred of Indian prisoners, while there was no response from the next door. So i dont think Pakistan is very interested in that blinking game anymore.

It has released 28 prisoners recently in november. It has agreed to release 150 prisoners once they finish their term.

 

[Awesome]

It has released 28 prisoners recently in november. It has agreed to release 150 prisoners once they finish their term.

No it was observed in one of the independence days when Pak released 100+ And though India had agreed to a similar number it released under 20 people after Pak had already released them.

 

[daredevil]

YOU SHOULD give us all the people we asked for or at least try them in India and not let them roam around free. And don't link it to some exchange.

1. Dawood Ibrahim is not in Pakistan. The media of today reached Faridkot and found out that Kazim was in fact from Faridkot. Nobody has been able to prove Dawood is still in Pak?

2. Masood Azhar is wanted for bombings in Pak. When hes caught he'd be in Pak jails. As far as I know since his release he didn't bomb a single place in India. He is suspected to be in collaboration with India. Once hes caught if Indian collaborators are found they too would be asked for.

3. Hafiz Saeed has done nothing wrong. Since LeT was banned he gave up the militant ways. As reports have it, he's no longer the militant chief and runs Jamaat-ud-Dawaa. The Jamaat's official support to LeT is not proven and is only assumed because of Hafiz. That's why even India has stopped asking for him and asked for Lakhvi instead. If you want to argue otherwise, then you'll first have to prove it here in Pak.

Oh come on, Dawood has had a pakistani passport on a different name. Interpol claims he is in Pakistan.

Masoos Azhar is in Pakistan and India asked for him even before he was wanted in Pakistan, you didn't hand over him then.

Haifz saeed, head of Jamata-Ud-Dawa which is a moniker of LeT. He gives open speeches of cutting India into pieces till it bleeds and dismembers. Lakvi was the operational manager for the attacks, but all the support is coming from Hafiz Saeed.

He served his sentence, then why should he be extradited? He did his time. That is proof that Pak jails even criminals who have committed crimes against India.

Yeah right, he served his sentence in Gurudwara, which is a normal life, not a jail life.

 

[daredevil]

No it was observed in one of the independence days when Pak released 100+ And though India had agreed to a similar number it released under 20 people after Pak had already released them.

Here is the link regarding the released 28 prisoners

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Here is the link for India agreeing to release 150 prisoners

India agrees to release 150 Pakistanis -DAWN - Top Stories; April 16, 2008

 

[third eye]

Pakistan won't hand over Mumbai suspects | The Australian

The suspects can be tried on the moon for all I care. The larger issues are :

1. Didn't Pak know of these ppl or their activities before ?
2. Pak did not seem to mind if its citizens are ' removed' to G'itmo .
3. Why does Pak always act when put under pressure, not before ?

 

[Awesome]

The suspects can be tried on the moon for all I care. The larger issues are :

1. Didn't Pak know of these ppl or their activities before ?
2. Pak did not seem to mind if its citizens are ' removed' to G'itmo .
3. Why does Pak always act when put under pressure, not before ?

1. No. We didn't care.
2. It was wrong, that practice has been stopped. And there is even a possibility of trying Osama Bin Laden within Pakistan if he's caught here.
3. As explained above, Pak has given its reasons, we're just carrying on with our own investigations on the request of the Americans. Indians have refused to cooperate with the investigations and which may also lead to a lesser sentence or may be these guys would even walk unless India hands over the evidence to us.

On the other hand a more straight forward reason why we haven't done this even though they are banned? Because they bomb you, not us. 90% of the terrorists organizations are after Pakistani blood, we're being bombed, left n right. We've had 100 Mumbais in Pakistan till now. We also suspect INDIA to be behind a majority of those incidents. We don't want to add to our list of enemies, not till the T-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan are defeated first.

And this too would end up being a one off incident where we'll take action. TILL we see some reciprocal action taken by the Indians to back off from bombing Pakistan.

 

[Awesome]

Here is the link regarding the released 28 prisoners

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Here is the link for India agreeing to release 150 prisoners

India agrees to release 150 Pakistanis -DAWN - Top Stories; April 16, 2008

Yeah I think its the April incident in which less than 150 were released.

 

[Awesome]

Oh come on, Dawood has had a pakistani passport on a different name. Interpol claims he is in Pakistan.

Yeah ok we're saying hes not there. You're saying hes there, so show us! Nobody with a freakin mobile phone ever captured him sunbathing on clifton beach?

Masoos Azhar is in Pakistan and India asked for him even before he was wanted in Pakistan, you didn't hand over him then.

That was intially, right after the hijacking incident when we made the mistake of not apprehending him immediately. But he's been on the run for the past 5 years and is a wanted man in Pakistan. It's probably the gallows for him once hes caught.

Haifz saeed, head of Jamata-Ud-Dawa which is a moniker of LeT.

Which is an Indian claim that needs to be proven. He did promptly wind up his operation and quit the LeT once ordered by Pakistan.

He gives open speeches of cutting India into pieces till it bleeds and dismembers

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He's had 1st hand experience fighting with the Indians. So he has a bad mouth. Nothing that warrants his arrest. There are many youtube videos where I can post the same from VHP.

Lakvi was the operational manager for the attacks, but all the support is coming from Hafiz Saeed.

Allegedly. Both these claims need to be proven in Pak courts.

Yeah right, he served his sentence in Gurudwara, which is a normal life, not a jail life.

Depends upon what was sentenced. I'm really not aware of a 1970s case, however didn't we just get out of war and you guys assisted in breaking our country into two?

You should be happy they didn't give him a medal.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

It is possible that there will be a backlash in the form of terrorism against Pakistan if this operation really widens in its scope and sees to copletely dismantle the LeT.

And the concern Asim referred to, of having another terrorism front open up domestically, given that the TTP in FATA and Swat is not yet pacified, is not something any decisionmaker would want to do.

I hope that the Indians share evidence, and that this trial is conudcted in the open in Pakistan, so that innocent or guilty, there is no doubt that the arrested people got a fair trial.

Everytime Pakistan acts outside the system, or when the US attempts to get it to act outside the system in contravention of her laws and constitution, it weakens the government and rule of law in Pakistan.

 

[Awesome]

India really should set the precedent here by handing over the Pakistani most wanted. C'mon what are they? Hate mongerers like Bal Thackeray and Mafia leaders like Chota rajan.

 

[Awesome]

It is possible that there will be a backlash in the form of terrorism against Pakistan if this operation really widens in its scope and sees to copletely dismantle the LeT.

And the concern Asim referred to, of having another terrorism front open up domestically, given that the TTP in FATA and Swat is not yet pacified, is not something any decisionmaker would want to do.

I hope that the Indians share evidence, and that this trial is conudcted in the open in Pakistan, so that innocent or guilty, there is no doubt that the arrested people got a fair trial.

Everytime Pakistan acts outside the system, or when the US attempts to get it to act outside the system in contravention of her laws and constitution, it weakens the government and rule of law in Pakistan.

I think we really need to leave the LeT alone and just try to convince them not to attack India. These guys are everywhere in Pak. Kashmiris are integrated into all the provinces of Pakistan especially Punjab. Obviously when operations take place many innocents die as collateral damage and there lies the seeds of opening another front.

We need to work with the LeT and ask them to cut back. Perhaps India can help by granting some concessions to the Hurriyat and/or JKLF in J&K to make it a win-win situation.

 

[Flintlock]

Yes, you guys seem to be most concerned about the sanctity of the constitution only when handling a suspect wanted in India.

There's a reason why the US is acting outside the Pakistani constitution - its the only way to get the job done.

Oh, and its also kinda easy to circumvent it.

It is possible that there will be a backlash in the form of terrorism against Pakistan if this operation really widens in its scope and sees to copletely dismantle the LeT.

And the concern Asim referred to, of having another terrorism front open up domestically, given that the TTP in FATA and Swat is not yet pacified, is not something any decisionmaker would want to do.

I hope that the Indians share evidence, and that this trial is conudcted in the open in Pakistan, so that innocent or guilty, there is no doubt that the arrested people got a fair trial.

Everytime Pakistan acts outside the system, or when the US attempts to get it to act outside the system in contravention of her laws and constitution, it weakens the government and rule of law in Pakistan.