The Alkhalid-1Manufacturing facility..

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

We are quite a long way to go in term of modernized assembly lines
However not sure how common are Robotics in Heavy Tank manufacturing

If we can move towards a similar mindset for Some of the items we make at HIT it would be great

• APC Hamza
• JF17 Body parts / centeral body
  
• Al Khalid Tank's assembly improvements
• Military vehicles
• Military Transport buses , Trucks

I was checking out Russian assembly lines and they also have a similar setup as what we have Engineers puting items together by hand

 

[CriticalThought]

We are quite a long way to go in term of modernized assembly lines
However not sure how common are Robotics in Heavy Tank manufacturing

If we can move towards a similar mindset for Some of the items we make at HIT it would be great

• APC Hamza
• JF17 Body parts / centeral body
  
• Al Khalid Tank's assembly improvements
• Military vehicles
• Military Transport buses , Trucks

I was checking out Russian assembly lines and they also have a similar setup as what we have Engineers puting items together by hand

There are a few factors that determine whether it is feasible to use robotics on an assembly line:

1. Complexity
2. Scale
3. Speed
4. Cost

As an example, the F-35 manufacturing process also involves a lot of manual steps

Remember, the F-35 benefits from a global manufacturing pipeline. There isn't just one factory churning them out.

If HIT is going to use Robotics, then what they are telling us, is they are expecting very large volumes and/or the need to produce very quickly. Again, as a comparison, the total number of F-35 orders expected is MUCH less than 5000 over the next decade or so.

With manual process, the efficiency of HIT stands at 60 tanks per year. Assuming robotics introduces an order of magnitude of efficiency at HIT, let's assume they would ramp up production to 600 tanks per year. That means, in 5 years they would produce 3000 tanks. Given the figure of 3 million dollar per tank, that is $1.8 billion per year. We simply don't have that kind of budget.

The only way in which robotics at HIT would make sense is if somehow they have very low setup costs. That would give the benefit of increased production rate, with little overhead. Maybe they have a budget in the order of $25 - $50 million to setup up the robotic production line?

@Bilal Khan (Quwa)

 

[Imran Khan]

great so from slow production to full scale

 

[Dazzler]

 

[Gryphon]

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The production rate is currently 12 / year. I hope it increases soon.

Pakistan Army can absorb at least one regiment every year.

 

[Dazzler]

The production rate is currently 12 / year. I hope it increases soon.

Pakistan Army can absorb at least one regiment every year.

Can be increased to 60/year if needed.

 

[Mumm-Ra]

Can be increased to 60/year if needed.

Don't we need to ramp up the production now?

 

[Dazzler]

Don't we need to ramp up the production now?

Not needed

 

[Bossman]

We are quite a long way to go in term of modernized assembly lines
However not sure how common are Robotics in Heavy Tank manufacturing

If we can move towards a similar mindset for Some of the items we make at HIT it would be great

• APC Hamza
• JF17 Body parts / centeral body
  
• Al Khalid Tank's assembly improvements
• Military vehicles
• Military Transport buses , Trucks

I was checking out Russian assembly lines and they also have a similar setup as what we have Engineers puting items together by hand

Tanks are not manufactured same as cars. Robots are used and HIT has them. They are used primarily for welding.If you look at Abrams or Leopard assembly lines they are very similar.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Good point I noticed same with Russian Tank Assembly it was fiarly old fashioned Mechanics and Engineers assembling items in Large facility

But 500 Tanks in 25 years is a low productivity figure which leads to many questions

 

[Aamir Hussain]

what is the reason for low production rate when one re-equipping units with older tanks?? Doesn't make sense. Or is it about money?

 

[fitpOsitive]

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Really very nice!!!!

 

[Trango Towers]

If we had private defense industry we should be miles ahead of this ...look at what a small company BECO was able to accomplish in free market free capital world before bhutto ruined it for alll

I beg to differ. India has lots of private enterprises and civilian government establishment and look at the disaster they have on their hands. In Pakistan the military produces what it really needs.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I beg to differ. India has lots of private enterprises and civilian government establishment and look at the disaster they have on their hands. In Pakistan the military produces what it really needs.

Indian private enterprises are new players and are in competition with outdated and rather pathetic indian state factories...

That said, indian companies like TATA are manufacturing trucks for indian army. And collaborating with international groups (mount their guns on tata trucks) for indian army tenders/bids.

The mess you talk about is in the indian state ordinance industies.

In Pak, new defence companies are doing great... look at Shibli,AL Tech,CARE,ID even DSA etc they have come up alot of hi tech systems in use by Pak mil today.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

I beg to differ. India has lots of private enterprises and civilian government establishment and look at the disaster they have on their hands. In Pakistan the military produces what it really needs.

Sure it does, but watch what they will accomplish in the coming decade, they're all new in the area. Right now they're only tieing up with experienced OEMs to raise assembly plants, testing infrastructure, and gain experience in defence management. In the limited time they've been in this space, they're doing quite a bit.

That said, indian companies like TATA are manufacturing trucks for indian army. And collaborating with international groups (mount their guns on tata trucks) for indian army tenders/bids.

They're doing a lot more than producing trucks, and going to do much more than that.