Thats how we treat our national heroes - Abdul Qadeer Khan

[EasyNow]

Are you done with your Propaganda?

Yes

 

[El Sidd]

Yes

Thank You for your worthless contribution

 

[EasyNow]

Thank You for your worthless contribution

Thank you for your valuable policing of the thread

 

[Sheepistanis]

Opinionated conspiracy theories nothing more...
The whole pakistans nuclear program start rising after his arrival from Netherlands,when he risked his life and career stole the tech and came to pakistan to help unthankful and ungrateful people like you. Nuclear program existed before but it,s start thriving after the centrifuge designs he stole from the netherlands get in our hands.Without the centrifuges the whole nuclear program was worthless.There is reason AQ khan is called father of pakistans nuclear bomb.

Please refer to Eating Grass: The Making of the Pakistani Bomb. No body in Pakistan's academia and the startegic community accepts the flawed notion that AQ Khan is the father of Pakistani nukes. For the rest it's pointless bickering.
Centrifuges design was provided by him and that remains a fact, but as pointed out earlier, the entire bomb building process involved efforts from a lot of people including the Nobel Laureate Abdus Salam. AQ Khan on the other hand has always hogged the spotlight and continues to cash in on the concerted efforts of many others. Let alone the fact that he shot himself in the foot, when he sold nuclear secrets for his personal gains.

 

[Sheepistanis]

P1 and P2 is Pakistan 1 and Pakistan 2 Gas Centrifuge system develop by Pakistan and Pakistan invent this technology, this is the basic core of Nuclear development without it Pakistan can't able to produce nuclear bomb.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. According to some specualtions, Pakistani centrifuges were based on dutch designs so the AQ Khan connection is plausible, while some also suggest that they were based on Chinese designs. As AQ Khan himself admitted that he provided designs, the entire process of centrifuge building required many other materials, which weren't easy to acquire.

“China, a staunch ally of Pakistan’s, provided blueprints for the bomb, as well as highly enriched uranium, tritium, scientists and key components for a nuclear weapons production complex, among other crucial tools. ‘Without China’s help, Pakistan’s bomb would not exist’ said Gary Milhollin, a leading expert on the spread of nuclear weapons.”

Long story short, with so many claims floating all around, Pakistan didn't get to build the bomb because AQ Khan brought with him centrifuges designs or what the US intelligence believes regarding assistance from other states. It was a hefty and a complicated procedure which stretched over decades for Pakistan to stand where it is today.

 

[SecularNationalist]

If our heroes didn’t engage in blatant self aggrandizement, corruption and profiteering.. I might be moved.

Dont try to make personal opinion facts

 

[My-Analogous]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. According to some specualtions, Pakistani centrifuges were based on dutch designs so the AQ Khan connection is plausible, while some also suggest that they were based on Chinese designs. As AQ Khan himself admitted that he provided designs, the entire process of centrifuge building required many other materials, which weren't easy to acquire.

“China, a staunch ally of Pakistan’s, provided blueprints for the bomb, as well as highly enriched uranium, tritium, scientists and key components for a nuclear weapons production complex, among other crucial tools. ‘Without China’s help, Pakistan’s bomb would not exist’ said Gary Milhollin, a leading expert on the spread of nuclear weapons.”

Long story short, with so many claims floating all around, Pakistan didn't get to build the bomb because AQ Khan brought with him centrifuges designs or what the US intelligence believes regarding assistance from other states. It was a hefty and a complicated procedure which stretched over decades for Pakistan to stand where it is today.

Pakistani centrifuge (P1 and P2) is first of its kind and world never use that process before, so all their claims are just garbage to get info of Pakistan on that time.

Effective usage of gas centrifuges were discovered by Pakistan which greatly enhances its capability to produce HEU fuels for both its commercial nuclear power plants and weapons. Pioneering research in physical performance of the centrifuges were studied by the Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan in the 1970s–80s, using the meaningful vacuum methods for advancing the role of the centrifuges for the development of nuclear fuel.[3] According to one theoretical physicist involved in the program maintained that the centrifuge program was quite difficult, the most enduring, and challenging project that scientists were tackling and studying.[6][not in citation given] Many of the theorists working with A.Q. Khan were unsure that either gaseous and enriched uranium would be feasible on time.[6] The scientist recalled his memories: "No one in the world has used the [gas] centrifuge method to produce military-grade uranium.... This was not going to work. He [A.Q. Khan] was simply wasting time."[6] Nonetheless and in spite of skepticism, the program was made feasible by Pakistan in the shortest time possible and enrichment by centrifuge has been used in physics experiments and effective physical use, particularly by Abdul Qadeer Khan in Pakistan, and the method was smuggled to at least three different countries by the end of the 20th century.[3][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_centrifuge

Pakistan's atomic bomb program developed the P1 and P2 centrifuges—the first two centrifuges that Pakistan deployed in large numbers. The P1 centrifuge uses an aluminum rotor, and the P2 centrifuge uses a maraging steel rotor, which is stronger, spins faster, and enriches more uranium per machine than the P1.

Russian and Soviet sources dispute the account of Soviet centrifuge development given by Gernot Zippe. They cite Prof. Max Steenbeck as the actual German scientist in charge of the German part of the Soviet centrifuge effort, which was started by German refugee Fritz Lange in the 1930s. The Soviets credit Steenbeck, Isaac Kikoin and Evgeni Kamenev with originating different valuable aspects of the design. They state Zippe was engaged in building prototypes for the project for two years from 1953. Since the centrifuge project was top secret the Soviets did not challenge any of Zippe's claims at the time.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippe-type_centrifuge

 

[SQ8]

Dont try to make personal opinion facts

Don’t try to manipulate my personal opinions and experiences.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Don’t try to manipulate my personal opinions and experiences.

Unless you are someone close to AQ khan or know the nuclear program better than anyone else here,you are just another brainwashed sheep

 

[SQ8]

Unless you are someone close to AQ khan or know the nuclear program better than anyone else here,you are just another brainwashed sheep

Resorting to name calling will not make me change what I stated.

And Ill state it again.

Abdul Qadeer Khan is a self aggrandizing opportunist who engaged in profiteering with critical and strategic products. He did not engage in it alone nor is he the only one to do so.

As for being close to him, I do have a picture of me sitting in his lap at 8 months old at a civil defense seminar in Islamabad.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Resorting to name calling will not make me change what I stated.

And Ill state it again.

Abdul Qadeer Khan is a self aggrandizing opportunist who engaged in profiteering with critical and strategic products. He did not engage in it alone nor is he the only one to do so.

As for being close to him, I do have a picture of me sitting in his lap at 8 months old at a civil defense seminar in Islamabad.

Seriously what is wrong with people wrong in this thread?? Are they too think to understand that without the centrifuge designs and their manufacturing by AQ khan the whole nuclear bomb project was a sitting duck?
Yes AQ khan himself admit that he is not alone in this nuclear bomb project so whats the point of this blabbering ?
@My-Analogous

 

[MastanKhan]

Literally tears start rolling down my face every time when i watch these interviews.We today exist on world map because of such national heroes and in return that,s what we gave them? A pension of 19000 rupees and a restriction of meeting their close relatives and house arrest? India made abdul kalam a president and we treated him like a criminal.Seriously our leaders suck

Hi,

Dr. A Q Khan will never be what he wants people to believe him to be---. He is a metallurgical engineer and not a nuc scientist---.

He will never be a nuc physicist---.

 

[R Wing]

He played a role in Pakistan's nuclear program but it was very limited in scope. Building a nuclear bomb isn't a one man's job as is incorrectly attributed to his credit in Pakistan. AQ khan and his department worked on Uranium and the PAEC which had already tested a nuclear device in 1983 was working on plutonium. Interestingly, in 1998 it was PAEC which conducted a higher yield weapon test and not AQ Khan's department aka KRL, which intially wasn't even part of the planned tests and AQ had to pull some heavy strings with military circles to get involved.
There are many Pakistani scietists who have contributed a lot more than AQ Khan, but sadly to this day, he is cashing in on myths associated with his name and people are gullible enough to fall for them. If there is anyone who actually derserve's to be called a true hero that would be Dr. Samar Mubarak.

I don't want to get into a debate about how much who contributed --- as the program wouldn't have been possible without contributions from all these heroes. AQ Khan did a lot of very impressive / risky clandestine stuff while he was working at European laboratories that even seasoned spies would think twice about. Dr. Samar Mubarak, AQ Khan and countless others deserve our endless gratitude.

Hi,

Dr. A Q Khan will never be what he wants people to believe him to be---. He is a metallurgical engineer and not a nuc scientist---.

He will never be a nuc physicist---.

Who gives a **** what his degree says given his contributions?

Seriously what is wrong with people wrong in this thread?? Are they too think to understand that without the centrifuge designs and their manufacturing by AQ khan the whole nuclear bomb project was a sitting duck?
Yes AQ khan himself admit that he is not alone in this nuclear bomb project so whats the point of this blabbering ?
@My-Analogous

This is the problem with our country. Instead of gratitude (one should ask what great contributions such people have made toward their country), we like to nitpick shortcomings. Nobody is perfect. His contributions are huge and that's what we honor him for. Is he a perfect human being? No. Are you?

 

[messiach]

El Sidd, you are bang on target.
Munir AK was my teacher, mentor, guide, inspirator, u name it. If uncle Sam hated one man, it was him. He single handedly spearheaded the team. There are many glorious names i can name, the unknowns of history, without them nuclear status was impossible & the imposter AQ khan was never and will never be a part of that list.

Now one understands why you made the thread.
Carry on

 

[denel]

Hi,

Dr. A Q Khan will never be what he wants people to believe him to be---. He is a metallurgical engineer and not a nuc scientist---.

He will never be a nuc physicist---.

200% - that is point others never understand. He was a perfect foil to keep eyes trained on while others did the actual work.

El Sidd, you are bang on target.
Munir AK was my teacher, mentor, guide, inspirator, u name it. If uncle Sam hated one man, it was him. He single handedly spearheaded the team. There are many glorious names i can name, the unknowns of history, without them nuclear status was impossible & the imposter AQ khan was never and will never be a part of that list.

Perfectly put. Munir and others were the actual drivers who never attracted attention and did the actual work.