Texas synagogue hostages freed, British gunman dead

[MultaniGuy]

Not true. Since the establishment of the Jewish State of Israel, Jews form a clear majority over non Jews in the region. Although this may change because of higher population growth among Palestinians / Israeli Arabs
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Yet Palestinian Arab / Israeli Arab population growth is higher than Jews in the region:View attachment 809179

I am talking before the creation of Israel.


In Ottoman Palestine, was Israel there? Did Jews form a majority in Ottoman Palestine?

Before spreading misinformation, get your facts right.

Personally I do not care about the Palestine-Israeli conflict, because the Muslim Arabs are also indifferent to the Kashmir dispute.

 

[Norwegian]

Our is a very loose term and it isn’t about Jewish people as much as semites. Most of Israeli inhabitants are descendants of European converts or settlers from other nations where Jewish populations both persecuted and not have settled in. In fact, my own Israeli friends lament the settlers as being more virulent and belligerent than the original founders or otherwise. One guy was laughing that his grandfather and father both fought the arabs and yet hold little or no ill will compared to some 28 year old fat guy born and raised in California who is a “settler”

Yeah there is plenty of room for all Jews inside Israel proper. There is no need for any settler project in the disputed occupied territories. It's best for both sides to end the conflict and establish final permanent borders

I am talking before the creation of Israel.


In Ottoman Palestine, was Israel there? Did Jews form a majority in Ottoman Palestine.

Nope. Jewish State of Israel was established by Jewish immigrants / refugees that came from all over the world. Conflict with local Arab population was bound to happen sooner or later. But that it would remain a perpetual state of conflict was never imagined by the nation's Zionist founders. There is not a single side to be blamed. Both Israelis and Palestinians refuse to agree on final permanent borders for their states. Israelis refuse to up give illegal settlements in occupied areas. Palestinians refuse to give up violence to settle their disputes with Israelis. And so on...

 

[MultaniGuy]

Yeah there is plenty of room for all Jews inside Israel proper. There is no need for any settler project in the disputed occupied territories. It's best for both sides to end the conflict and establish final permanent borders

Nope. Jewish State of Israel was established by Jewish immigrants / refugees that came from all over the world. Conflict with local Arab population was bound to happen sooner or later. But that it would remain a perpetual state of conflict was never imagined by the nation's Zionist founders. There is not a single side to be blamed. Both Israelis and Palestinians refuse to agree on final permanent borders for their states. Israelis refuse to up give illegal settlements in occupied areas. Palestinians refuse to give up violence to settle their disputes with Israelis. And so on...

I think the Two state solution is the best solution. The Jews get their homeland according to the United Nations resolution and the Palestinians get their homeland.
There, everyone is happy.

 

[Norwegian]

I think the Two state solution is the best solution. The Jews get their homeland according to the United Nations resolution and the Palestinians get their homeland.
There, everyone is happy.

Both sides agree on two state solution since the signing of the Oslo Peace Accords in 1993. Issue rather is implementation. Both sides have huge disagreements on the final settlement agreement. Both sides refuse to come up with final permanent borders for their respective states. Both sides extremely disagree on the status of Jerusalem, refugees, right of return, integration of their economies and so on...

Oslo Accords - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Then there is extreme right wing / left wing divide on the issue in Israeli politics itself.

@Beny Karachun is a right winger who strongly opposes leftist pro Palestinian politics in Israel. He calls them "infiltrators" even when majority of Israeli voters are right wingers. Strange isn't it?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

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Texas synagogue hostages freed, British gunman dead

After 11-hour standoff, three remaining hostages, including Congregation Beth Israel's Rabbi Charlie Cytron-Walker, were released.

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@Beny Karachun @sammuel @Trango Towers @Titanium100 @Areesh @Zarvan @KAL-EL @dani191 @El Sidd

Are you Indian? Often gloating over negative news about Pakistan.

 

[CrazyZ]

Incident was completely unjustified, but its a stretch to call this terrorism. The hostage taker had known mental health problems and no innocent person was killed. Crazy people push and kill people in the NYC subway every other week.....no one calls that terrorism.

Biggest issue I see is how did a mentally unstable guy from the UK acquired guns so easily in the USA.

 

[GHALIB]

Maybe but if not than its extremely bizarre that Israel PM is monitoring a domestic situation of America, if there is a situation in Israel regarding Christian or Muslim, every Muslim country should monitor ? I understand concerns, I mean right way is to call President or local authorities using the right channels but this is a bit weird to me. Well, lets hope no one is harmed and the man is apprehended soon. Last thing we as Muslims in US wants another crazy dude killing innocent civilians for the alleged wrongs of US govt/establishment/CIA/FBI etc .

I was thinking about moving to Dallas, and this is happening close to Dallas, Allah Khair kare.

This is their policy is to monitor safety of every jew .

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

My dear you haven't been tested or lost a loved one so it's easy for you to give such statements.

That is not true. You assumed it, adding more excuse for terrorism.

 

[K_Bin_W]

The only reason Israel exists is because USA supports it.

If US cuts the umbilical cord I give it 48hrs MAX even with its shinny little nukes.

 

[aryadravida]

Incident was completely unjustified, but its a stretch to call this terrorism. The hostage taker had known mental health problems and no innocent person was killed. Crazy people push and kill people in the NYC subway every other week.....no one calls that terrorism.

Biggest issue I see is how did a mentally unstable guy from the UK acquired guns so easily in the USA.

Who told you he was mentally unstable?his brother? BS....a very easy and convenient way to absolve themselves of this crime...a mentally unstable person cant flow from UK to US and execute a plan this precisely...he identified a synagogue and made plans to hold the jews there as hostages....
he is not mentally retarded...he is a terrorist. No matter how much you try to justify his acts the world will see him as another terrorist.

 

[CrazyZ]

Who told you he was mentally unstable?his brother? BS....a very easy and convenient way to absolve themselves of this crime...a mentally unstable person cant flow from UK to US and execute a plan this precisely...he identified a synagogue and made plans to hold the jews there as hostages....
he is not mentally retarded...he is a terrorist. No matter how much you try to justify his acts the world will see him as another terrorist.

A crazy man pushed and killed a women in the NYC subway the other day.....this guy killed no one. He had ample opportunity to do so and even released some of the hostages. Investigation is still early but that isn't the M.O. of your typical "master terrorist". Actions are of somebody that is unstable. Family statements only reinforce this. Its elementary my dear .

 

[SecularNationalist]

It was never Palestinian. They never identified as such, this nationality didn't exist 100 years ago. They all identification themselves as Jordanians and Egyptians, even their flag was copied from Jordan.

You can't give me a name of even a single Palestinian man that identified himself as Palestinian. Not even one Palestinian poet. Not a Palestinian currency (Don't send me British mandate coins that havs Eretz Israel written on them). The word Palestine is based on the ethnically Greek Philistines which have absolutely nothing to do with the Palestinians. Arabs don't even have the sound P in their language to say Palestine.

Arabs arrived here in the 600s after they did exactly what they accuse us of. They continued to do so ever since. Tried to do the same in the 1900s before Israel's establishment as a state and in 1948 when it was established, in the 1960s they planned a war and in 1967 Egypt started a naval blockade against Israel and Israel told them its an act of war and absolutely wrecked Egypt,but it didn't attack Jordan and Syria, and even asked them to not enter the war. Then the Syrians and Jordanians decided to attack us, before that Jordan told what you call today the Palestinians, that they need to leave their houses and return in a day after Israel is destroyed. Then Israel beat the shit out of them as well.

Winners keep it all, Arabs lost because it's all they're capable of doing against us.

Then they tried to do the same in 1973 and don't kid yourself that they would have stopped at the Sinai and Golan, if they were even capable of getting them. Then they lost again.

Israel tried to deal with the Palestinians, deals that would give them 95 percent of the West Bank, gave away Gaza, Trump's deal which offered so much to the Palestinians just in 2020 etc. All were rejected.

The two state solution was offered many times, seems like the only solution is the "**** all the Palestinians, we had enough" solution.

You pathetic people are just like indians who just live in the past or hypocritically use past to defend all their evil actions. Indians say some 10,000 fucking years ago a temple was here so destroy this mosque and build that temple again. And on the other hand you say we Israelis don't live in the past ,then why you use that thousands years old historical reference to claim Israel as your land??
Some pakistanis have arabian and Persian roots so today we should invade Iran and Arab countries ,kick the natives out and forcefully settle ourselves there just like you did in Palestine?? We don't even talk about a 600 year old history and you people dwell in 300 BC and yet call yourself modern and civilized . On this earth everyone belongs to somewhere at some point in time. Recent present is relevant not the far distant past. You people are simply pathetic.
And all that boasting about how you defeated Arabs bla bla ,all the credit of that goes to your daddy USA. You cannot be even seen on a world map. If it is not for major world powers supporting you for their nefarious agendas in the middle east you will be cease to exist. Your very presence is because of all the oil Arabs have in the middle east,so it suits the west to create and support Israel to keep Arabs in check. Let the oil dry up or the world power balance change your artificial nation will cease to exist.With all the western technology support gone a nation like Yemen can trample you with their feet . Then we will see how good you are in defending the stolen piece of land you are occupying. History is evident getting kicked from place to place is your destiny and history has a knack of repeating itself. From south America,to arabia to Europe this world rejected you from time to time because you people are pure evil who fall outside of humanity circle(by actions).
Just enjoy your temporary stay.
You exist at the price of living in constant fear and insecurity ,by militarizing the whole environment ,by thinking every second a hamas missile can land on you ,or to run towards a bomb shelter or receive a knife attack by a palestini freedom fighter.
Israel was never a nation and never will be. Mark my words .

 

[Enigma SIG]

He was British dammit. Not Pakistani. Need to update thread title.

 

[313ghazi]

Shamima Begum, Moazzam Beg, Majid Nawaz, and so on.

Edit: Moazzam Beg and Majid Nawaz are Pakistani. Shamima Begum is not. However, they were product of the same culture.

2 people in a population of 2 million.

How many terrorists in Pakistan? They took 70,000 victims. I suggest you worry about your own culture.

 

[Basel]

Aafia Siddiqui was a dual national, she studied in the United States and obtained a PhD in neuroscience. Pakistan has nothing to do with her since she was US citizen of Pakistani origin.

That is also one of main points on which US refused to release her to Pakistan as they claim she is US Citizen and should be treated under US law.