Terrorist takes Australian cafe customers hostage:

[illusion8]

your first part is correct... throughout the 2011 nato invasion of libya, american airforce planes took loads of taliban into tunisia and libya for the cia regime-change program for libya... usa government and cia are the masters of those like taliban... and the taliban make much money from selling afghani poppy plants ( opium ) to american military commanders... and these south asians in taliban and qaeda were next sent to syria for the regime-change there.

india must take historic and cultural blame for creating most of these groups... the ritualistic, prayer-minded, backward culture of india seventy years ago allowed the creation of tableeghi jamaat, and of the deoband mullah school much earlier.

even bangladeshis rose up against the "jamaat e islami"... but india has continuosly had the deobandis and tableeghi for 67 years... even the afghanis created socialist afghanistan ( before it was regime-changed )... even in pakistan, the army is in war with taliban.

look at egypt... the usa installed the ikhwaani leader, morsi, as the president of egypt in 2011... but in 2013, the egyptians ( majority muslim ) overthrew morsi... arrested him... jailed and hanged many of his ikhwaani colleagues... declared ikhwaan as terrorist group... shut down media agencies controlled by ikhwaan.

why hasn't this happened in india?? culture, perhaps??

The Indian constitution is not based on culture - it's based on principles of democracy. what these groups do is exploit that. they receive thousands of wahaabi preachers and millions of petro dollars - but they aren't doing anything illegal as far as Indian law or constitution goes.

The comical thing here is ISIS isn't a banned organization in India so are the others - boko, AQ, shabaab, taliban, hut etc etc - none are banned because technically they aren't anti India nor have done anything in India. Religious preaching no matter how radical it is directly - cannot be banned unless it's anti state.

your first part is correct... throughout the 2011 nato invasion of libya, american airforce planes took loads of taliban into tunisia and libya for the cia regime-change program for libya... usa government and cia are the masters of those like taliban... and the taliban make much money from selling afghani poppy plants ( opium ) to american military commanders... and these south asians in taliban and qaeda were next sent to syria for the regime-change there.

By masters I meant your wahaabi masters sitting in your holyland and on billions of petro dollars.

 

[Gunsnroses]

Bravo and utmost respect to Australia, love ya Aussies!

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[A.Rafay]

Most likely they are. Arabs aren't present in AUS in large numbers so chances are they're Pakistani.

The terrorist has a middle eastern accent, confirmed by CNN. He is probably an arab.

Sorry to disappoint you he is not a Pakistani.

 

[SipahSalar]

THIS IS NOT ISLAM. Anyone who is taking a neutral stance here and not condemning this a$$holery should not be calling himself a Muslim.

Agree with your post brother. But always refrain from Takfir. That is my advice to you as a brother.

 

[jamahir]

By masters I meant your wahaabi masters sitting in your holyland and on billions of petro dollars.

1. i have no masters... nobody owns me and i don't own anyone.

2. the house of saud ( and saudia ) is itself owned by usa and britain.

The Indian constitution is not based on culture - it's based on principles of democracy. what these groups do is exploit that.

india has a strange understanding of "secularism", which here is allowing the perverted demands of every religious/pseudo-religious group, be it ram sena, be it tableeghi jamaat.

they receive thousands of wahaabi preachers and millions of petro dollars - but they aren't doing anything illegal as far as Indian law or constitution goes.

the money may be gulfi petro-dollars but most preachers are indian... look at "peace tv" founded by zakir naik.

The comical thing here is ISIS isn't a banned organization in India so are the others - boko, AQ, shabaab, taliban, hut etc etc - none are banned because technically they aren't anti India nor have done anything in India. Religious preaching no matter how radical it is directly - cannot be banned unless it's anti state.

technical existence of state is never important... what is important is the ideology the state follows... if the ideology goes against justice and progress, then it is the duty of the citizens to overthrow the state, by revolution... the only acceptable ideology is socialism.

 

[Red Spinifex]

9 p.m. Sydney time. No end in sight to the hostage drama. So far no casualties and 5 hostages managed to escape earlier. We are still getting reports.

 

[Abii]

The terrorist has a middle eastern accent, confirmed by CNN. He is probably an arab.

Sorry to disappoint you he is not a Pakistani.

Arab or Pakistani, it makes no difference to me. And you put a black guy from Tongo and put him in front of a white guy and he'll say he's got a Middle Eastern accent. You think a white guy can distinguish between a Pakistani and a Middle Eastern guy? It's like you trying to distinguish between a mainland Chinese and a guy from Hong Kong (it's only possible if you can differentiate between Cantonese and Mandarin).

 

[illusion8]

the money may be gulfi petro-dollars but most preachers are indian... look at "peace tv" founded by zakir naik.

lol@zakirnaik

look at his followers and the thousands that attend his preaching - most are illiterate and poor.

 

[anonymus]

A probable terrorist strike and hostage situation in Ghent,Belgium.

Armed men enter flat in theBelgian city of Ghent | Newsday 24/7


BBC News - Armed men enter Belgian apartment

 

[Hyperion]

I think the situation is all out of hand now, no matter how much real believers of Islam such as myself, who believe to their cores that it's a religion of peace, will be able to convince others of it. You believe what you see and unfortunately rest of the world sees the version of Islam that ISIS / Wahabis' / Deobandis / Ahl-e-Hadith follow. No one is to be blamed for it other than us, our silence, our inaction, our defeatist attitudes. We have become our own worst nightmares.

 

[illusion8]

technical existence of state is never important... what is important is the ideology the state follows... if the ideology goes against justice and progress, then it is the duty of the citizens to overthrow the state, by revolution... the only acceptable ideology is socialism.

Why exactly did communism fail all around the world?

 

[jamahir]

lol@zakirnaik

look at his followers and the thousands that attend his preaching - most are illiterate and poor.

majority of his followers are "educated" in colleges and involved in "decent" jobs... go to bangalore to see all that.

Why exactly did communism fail all around the world?

only a fool would insult socialism and the idea of a communist humanity...

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[illusion8]

majority of his followers are "educated" in colleges and involved in "decent" jobs... go to bangalore to see all that.



only a fool would insult socialism and the idea of a communist humanity...

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Naah,

Commie sh!t does not work in India, leave it to the effturds who deserve it. We are happy with our system. majority of his followers are from the lowest strata sprinkled with a few here and there's. many are jamaati losers by the look of it.

 

[Turkish_FR]

Why New Zealand ?

 

[Not Sure]

Arab or Pakistani, it makes no difference to me. And you put a black guy from Tongo and put him in front of a white guy and he'll say he's got a Middle Eastern accent. You think a white guy can distinguish between a Pakistani and a Middle Eastern guy? It's like you trying to distinguish between a mainland Chinese and a guy from Hong Kong (it's only possible if you can differentiate between Cantonese and Mandarin).

Most probably a Lebanese, but yes you are right, for them Pakistan/India etc all are Middle East, and all non-western accents are same. And then when we think about how much CNN may have actually heard the man talking (must have gotten the info from escaped hostages), we can easily say that nothing can be said about the accent at this stage.

Oh, by the way, there is a country called Togo, and there's one called Tonga... But I like your style