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Terrorist commander Omar Khattab, of Indian-sponsored terrorist group TTP, has been killed by unknown gunmen

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I am not saying ttp is not terrorist, i can ask the same please show some video proof that ttp is supported by nds and indian raaw, i agree bla, bra supported, funded, trained by indians, as you can watch their statements, they full support indians and indian politicians same,

but on other side ttp is group of al qaeda network, created and heavily funded by saudis..

Under current geopolitical circumstances, possibility of funding by MBS cannot be ruled out.
 
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Another Indian Hindutvaism Terrorist eliminated...
Some people run away from reality like a Sheep escaping from a wolf.

Why don't you confess that TTP is a Saudi supported group? TTP doesn't give a **** about India, RAW has no ideological influence over these savages claiming of being Muslim Warrior while destabilizing Islamic countries such as Pakistan.

Pakistan has provided an evidence based credible dossier that has exposed transactional evidence between Indian RAW and groups like TTP.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. That's how 5th generation have hybrid wars are conducted.

Elementary to understand.
 
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Sahih kaha
"Pakistan mein kutay bhi shahid hotay hain", once told by Hazrat Manhoos "Molvi Diesel"
no it was jamat i islami leader munawwar hasan .
Another Indian Hindutvaism Terrorist eliminated...


Pakistan has provided an evidence based credible dossier that has exposed transactional evidence between Indian RAW and groups like TTP.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. That's how 5th generation have hybrid wars are conducted.

Elementary to understand.

we indians are happy terrorists are eleminating one another .
 
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Inna Lillahi wa Inna Illahi raajion

Why would you pray for a criminal ?

You're a smart chap, hence I feel your question is deliberately leading.

Thank you. Yes, I wanted @Zarvan to provide a nuanced answer.

Ideologies can be controlled if there is no foreign support and intervention. India shuts down its support to TTP and it dies sooner than later

OK.

Apologies, I didnt know your background - who would understand struggle of Kashmiri and Muslims of India better then you.

Thank you.

As for Israel-Palestine issue, from the above 2 option, I would opt no.1 (which is also stand of Pakistan). This way they can have their own country and nobody would've any issue with them.

Good point, and then the issue would be for PLO and Hamas to internally strive for a progressive governance.

However, you and I we both know it will never get materialized, because they have bigger plans and working to achieve those and are in pursue to have greater Israel, which will have land from many neighboring Muslim countries (that means both above options are out of window).

Well, I hope the various international possible influences - Saudia, Iran, Russia and West - agree to end this issue once and for all. It is after all a political misunderstanding. Nothing impossible.

The Indian State does not believe that groups like the TTP can overthrow the Pakistani State - not so distance history is testament to that. The closest the Taliban came was with their control over FATA & Swat and the Pakistani State neutralized them as a consequence.

Understood.

The objective of Hindustan is not a "Taliban state" per se. The objectives of Hindustan are simply to (a) malign and (b) destabilise what they regard to be the "usurped" nation of Pakistan. Even if they come to terms with Pakistan's reality, they would still wish to malign and destabilise it.

Why? Because Pakistan is a threat to Hindustan and always will thwart its attempts to rewrite subcontinental history.

The Indian goal behind supporting such groups is to destabilize Pakistan, further slow down its economic growth and development (which weakens Pakistan militarily as well) and leverage the violence by such groups in the international community to build a case against Pakistan’s possession of nuclear weapons, and even conventional weapons, by highlighting the potential risk of conventional & unconventional weapons falling into the hands of extremists groups.

I understand the stands of you both being Pakistanis. The immediate elements and the strategic elements.

And you will understand my reservations about Pakistani involvement in India-administered Kashmir immediately though Pakistan has done well to jail Hafiz Saeed who was involved in the Bombay attack of 2008.

I just wish India and Pakistan end this unnecessary and avoidable antagonism and large military positioning and work towards common development of South Asia.

And if it helps I am opposed to the diktat of a film and music governing body in Bombay that prohibits Indian artistes and technicians from working with Pakistanis. And quite a few of Indian artistes and technicians find this problematic too.
 
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@Zarvan, what is the ideology of the TTP ? I am not claiming knowledge of RAW but you are basically accusing RAW of providing encouragement of TTP's acts like the shooting of Malala and the Peshawar school attack.

Does RAW desire a Taliban state in Pakistan through the TTP which will go hand in hand with the RSS' desire to establish a Hindu Rashtra in India ? Contradictory, isn't it ?
I dont know about raw's involvement in the APS terror attack, but it's pretty well known that RAW does fund and train some elements of the TTP.

India doesn't want a TTP ruled Pakistan, India wants a Pakistan that's unstable enough to not threaten Indian expansionism, and quest for regional hegemony.

RAW's goal is to weaken, destabilize, or even break Pakistan, if they can. If they do this, it give India a chance to invade and occupy all of Kashmir. It also gives India more space to deal with china, without having to worry about Pakistan getting involved.

TTP and India share similar interests, and where interests are shared, alliances are made.
 
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India doesn't want a TTP ruled Pakistan, India wants a Pakistan that's unstable enough to not threaten Indian expansionism, and quest for regional hegemony.

That I can understand.

RAW's goal is to weaken, destabilize, or even break Pakistan, if they can. If they do this, it give India a chance to invade and occupy all of Kashmir.

Well, I don't think the Indian establishment and the military even think they have the capability to dislodge Pakistan from Pakistan-administered Kashmir.
 
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Why would you pray for a criminal ?



Thank you. Yes, I wanted @Zarvan to provide a nuanced answer.



OK.



Thank you.



Good point, and then the issue would be for PLO and Hamas to internally strive for a progressive governance.



Well, I hope the various international possible influences - Saudia, Iran, Russia and West - agree to end this issue once and for all. It is after all a political misunderstanding. Nothing impossible.



Understood.





I understand the stands of you both being Pakistanis. The immediate elements and the strategic elements.

And you will understand my reservations about Pakistani involvement in India-administered Kashmir immediately though Pakistan has done well to jail Hafiz Saeed who was involved in the Bombay attack of 2008.

I just wish India and Pakistan end this unnecessary and avoidable antagonism and large military positioning and work towards common development of South Asia.

And if it helps I am opposed to the diktat of a film and music governing body in Bombay that prohibits Indian artistes and technicians from working with Pakistanis. And quite a few of Indian artistes and technicians find this problematic too.
I admire your optimism, however the numbers of those who see a peaceful way out of the quagmire have dwindled. Hindutva has set the subcontinent onto a singular path, at the end of which lie all our destinies.
 
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@Zarvan, what is the ideology of the TTP ? I am not claiming knowledge of RAW but you are basically accusing RAW of providing encouragement of TTP's acts like the shooting of Malala and the Peshawar school attack.

Does RAW desire a Taliban state in Pakistan through the TTP which will go hand in hand with the RSS' desire to establish a Hindu Rashtra in India ? Contradictory, isn't it ?


I am no expert but will try.

Basically what raw aims to achieve by supporting, by providing training, finances, and intelligence and logistical support? The answer is simple, the more the ttp can create chaose in Pakistan, the more india can propagate to the world that Pakistan is not safe, its a terrorist have, the gov has lost control, and the nukes are not safe. They by doing that divert attention from everything else to one singular subject, that Pakistan is evil, and first off all their nukes be taken away, sanctions be placed, businesses would stop investing, cost of everything would go up. And that also provides the likes of india and her allies, to then support their own agendas in Pakistan, by supporting the corrupt elements that are willing to sell themselves for any amount. That's just a small sample size, as I see it.
 
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@Zarvan, what is the ideology of the TTP ? I am not claiming knowledge of RAW but you are basically accusing RAW of providing encouragement of TTP's acts like the shooting of Malala and the Peshawar school attack.

Does RAW desire a Taliban state in Pakistan through the TTP which will go hand in hand with the RSS' desire to establish a Hindu Rashtra in India ? Contradictory, isn't it ?
Do shutup Jamahir. Let them chase their own shadows.
 
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Well, I hope the various international possible influences - Saudia, Iran, Russia and West - agree to end this issue once and for all. It is after all a political misunderstanding. Nothing impossible.

Sorry mate but respectfully I disagree, why? Because Saudia and other Arab counties, Western countries and US all support Isreal. Just look at how far Trump & MBS regime have gone in support of Isreal in recent days, infact those are Isreal's allies.

Therefore, its not a political misunderstanding, Isreal has a blueprint on which they've been working on from years. US, West and now Arab's and supporting them wholeheartedly.

Well, I don't think the Indian establishment and the military even think they have the capability to dislodge Pakistan from Pakistan-administered Kashmir.

Azad Kashmir is just one piece of the puzzle. Destabilize Pakistan, sabotage CPEC (which US also supports), jolt economic growth and put Pakistan on FATF's backlist are part of India's agenda
 
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