Tension in Kerala village as school serves pork

[RazPaK]

You do have serious comprehension problems then my friend! Where did I say Kerala Muslims were stupid? All I said was the protesters were stupid,and they are,no matter what their religion is. If posting pics of pork dishes gave you the impression that I am a pork eater,would posting pics of Su-30MKI make you think I am an IAF Pilot?

You are twisting the context. You were posting pictures, as If as though you were advocating the pork dishes. I am a strict Muslim, but I am all about personal freedom. If someone was eating shit in front of me, I wouldn't dictate my views on a person. My job as a Muslim would be to advise why eating the shit is not good for you. You on the other hand, were posting pictures that it is an acceptable practice. I'm all about live and let live, but I'd also try to help and better my community.

Cultural and religious sensitivities also play a part. I wouldn't have a picnic on Holi hindu religious festival and serve cow If I invited Hindus. I also wouldn't burn Jesus posters on Easter and invite Christian friends. That's called a dick move. These people served pork curry during the end of Ramdan, and it might have been considered a dick move by the community.

Common sense plays a role here.

In the past few weeks, there have been threads where Hindus were fasting along side Muslims to show solidarity, and that was a postive thing, but regarding this episode, we'd call serving pork curry a dick move. You may say that Muslims were offered alternative options. Well what If the function was not set after Iftaari?

 

[Makaramarma]

so you don't know nothing about Kerala politics..you can even see some Kerala congress factions like p c thomas in LDF. Apr 16, 2014
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Black Widow said: ↑
These are specially breeded cow/bull for
beef
These cows are not for beef,
Sonia Maino and her associate must
understand the difference.
I have no problem with beef, I have not
problem with Tiger/Lion meat as well.. My
concern is just one, If you want the meat,
cultivate the cattle, rather than killing pet
cattles...
How about cultivating clones for harvesting
organs ? ...... the same logic follows.
abjktu said: ↑
what butthurt?? you like to show your
butts??? show it in Mumbai central...you can
earn money too...
LOL..... you are trying too hard. Poyi kali
padichete waa.....ne iperum oru kute anne.

i am on mobile,some limitations there..

I have no idea what you have just posted, but I suspect it is something irrelevant to the topic. Are you seeking to be my spokes person ?

 

[abjktu]

I have no idea what you have just posted, but I suspect it is something irrelevant to the topic. Are you seeking to be my spokes person ?

i am using mobile,some limitations in copy,paste options..
if you want to see that..
go to 'UPA BEEF 'thread daters Apr 16 2014(manvantaratruti)..

 

[Sandeep Das]

You are twisting the context. You were posting pictures, as If as though you were advocating the pork dishes. I am a strict Muslim, but I am all about personal freedom. If someone was eating shit in front of me, I wouldn't dictate my views on a person. My job as a Muslim would be to advise why eating the shit is not good for you. You on the other hand, were posting pictures that it is an acceptable practice. I'm all about live and let live, but I'd also try to help and better my community.

Cultural and religious sensitivities also play a part. I wouldn't have a picnic on Holi hindu religious festival and serve cow If I invited Hindus. I also wouldn't burn Jesus posters on Easter and invite Christian friends. That's called a dick move. These people served pork curry during the end of Ramdan, and it might have been considered a dick move by the community.

Common sense plays a role here.

In the past few weeks, there have been threads where Hindus were fasting along side Muslims to show solidarity, and that was a postive thing, but regarding this episode, we'd call serving pork curry a dick move. You may say that Muslims were offered alternative options. Well what If the function was not set after Iftaari?

But in this case a Catholic school's catholic management served pork to its catholic teachers. Muslims were not present and no non-faculty seems to have been invited.

Students had a choice to eat and were beforehand informed of pork and then the availability of non-pork options.

Not a d**k move by any measure.

 

[RazPaK]

But in this case a Catholic school's catholic management served pork to its catholic teachers. Muslims were not present and no non-faculty seems to have been invited.

Students had a choice to eat and were beforehand informed of pork and then the availability of non-pork options.

Not a d**k move by any measure.

Details of the incident are lacking. What if the dinner party was not set after Iftari?

 

[abjktu]

I have no idea what you have just posted, but I suspect it is something irrelevant to the topic. Are you seeking to be my spokes person ?

its you who claimed that you are ,malayali and speaks some 7-8 languages including Sanskrit..
please,take your anti malayali stance some where else..

 

[nair]

Here is some 2013 data-

Kerala had 10042 riots

I think i was involved in 1 of those riots, when i had an argument with my apartment security staff and we shouted at each other........ Yes you are absolutely right, Kerala has highest riots in India...... I am ashamed of myself being part of one of such riots......

 

[Sandeep Das]

Details of the incident are lacking. What if the dinner party was not set after Iftari?

We can interpret that the NCC cadets 100 total and 27 muslims were probably doing some field training/activity and when teachers were done with meal consisting of pork and other non-pork options then they invited students over and informed them of menu contents in order to avoid hurting muslims sentiments.
Some muslims student maybe just 1 had a issue with a teacher and informed his/her parents that they served pork. Then the jamaatis came and the rest is all too predictable

 

[gslv mk3]

Then the jamaatis came and the rest is all too predictable

He didn't force feed them.

Arrested for serving pork ? WTF ?

 

[Sandeep Das]

I think i was involved in 1 of those riots, when i had an argument with my apartment security staff and we shouted at each other........ Yes you are absolutely right, Kerala has highest riots in India...... I am ashamed of myself being part of one of such riots......

The report was on crimes in 2013.
The earlier report showed Kerala worse off.

Both conducted during UPA time which you people vote for.

So either open your eyes and mind to facts or live in self denial.

 

[Koovie]

I am a new member so cannot post links.
I uploaded a screen shot of page 222 of the NCRB report which is available online.

You just google NCRB- select crimes in india - select stats- download the pdf - go to page 222.

Since you may not comprehend what i just said i will upload the data for you again.



Where is the proof that police is registering them more carefully than other states?
Where is the proof that people tend to report more crimes in Kerala than other states?

Should rock throwing be made legal as per your argument?

Now I see it. As I said earlier, I first thought this is about religious riots.

However, you cannot conclude as much as you think you could by just looking at the numbers. The states of India do not have an uniform society.

What people in Kerala call a crime, worth to be reported, might not be one in other states. This goes from non violent crimes to violent ones. There are enough cases of parents, for instance, reporting teachers who slapped their children. Something that was considered "normal" a couple of years ago and something which is still normal in other parts of the country.
School principal booked for slapping student
But thats just one example, like the rock throwing example (which is obviously not a justification). Or do you think that people constantly report cases of broken glass in J&K during protests, while the Police there has enough time and energy to record all of them ?

The observation that people with different education levels and living standards have different definitions of some crimes and tend to use the judiciary system more often is something which can be observed throughout the world, and not just Kerala.

 

[Makaramarma]

its you who claimed that you are ,malayali and speaks some 7-8 languages including Sanskrit..
please,take your anti malayali stance some where else..

I know you want to discuss me, but don't you think you should stop obsessing about me and find more meaning full topic to talk about ?

 

[nair]

The report was on crimes in 2013.
The earlier report showed Kerala worse off.

Both conducted during UPA time which you people vote for.

So either open your eyes and mind to facts or live in self denial.

2 questions, to you.

1) where you basically from or where do you live?
2) Ever visited Kerala ? or ever spoken to some one who visited kerala

 

[Sandeep Das]

Now I see it. As I said earlier, I first thought this is about religious riots.

However, you cannot conclude as much as you think you could by just looking at the numbers. The states of India do not have an uniform society.

What people in Kerala call a crime, worth to be reported, might not be one in other states. This goes from non violent crimes to violent ones. There are enough cases of parents, for instance, reporting teachers who slapped their children. Something that was considered "normal" a couple of years ago and something which is still normal in other parts of the country.
But thats just one example, like the rock throwing example (which is obviously not a justification). Or do you think that people constantly report cases of broken glass in J&K during protests, while the Police there has enough time and energy to record all of them ?

The observation that people with different education levels and living standards have different definitions of some crimes and tend to use the judiciary system more often is something which can be observed throughout the world, and not just Kerala.

Can you explain to me why educated people riot so much?

Only other state with more riots is Bihar because it has a larger population.

Kerala per capita riot is more than double of bihar.

Biharis are mostly not educated.
Keralites seem to be educated yet riot more than biharis?

Can you show me proof that Kerala police records riots better than other states?

 

[RazPaK]

We can interpret that the NCC cadets 100 total and 27 muslims were probably doing some field training/activity and when teachers were done with meal consisting of pork and other non-pork options then they invited students over and informed them of menu contents in order to avoid hurting muslims sentiments.
Some muslims student maybe just 1 had a issue with a teacher and informed his/her parents that they served pork. Then the jamaatis came and the rest is all too predictable

I personally don't sense any foul play here, but there might be details lacking from the incident.

If it were me, I would have personally declined the offer for the dinner.

I am no expert on India, South India, especially Kerala, so take my opinion for whatever it's worth.