Tejas is superior than JF-17 - Parrikar

[Stephen Cohen]

An excerpt from Mr Parrikar's media interaction

Let 36 Rafale come first: Parrikar | Central Chronicle

I am convinced that our Tejas is superior than JF-17 aircraft being acquired by Pakistan from China,” he said, in an informal chat,

@sarjenprabhu @Hindustani78 @hinduguy @Rain Man @Prajapati

 

[Windjammer]

An excerpt from Mr Parrikar's media interaction

Let 36 Rafale come first: Parrikar | Central Chronicle

I am convinced that our Tejas is superior than JF-17 aircraft being acquired by Pakistan from China,” he said, in an informal chat,

@sarjenprabhu @Hindustani78 @hinduguy @Rain Man @Prajapati

Yes, he is in ideal position to comment on others when it took him some months to understand his own rank and file.
Lol at comparing, when JF-17 is already operational with four front line squadron and Tejas has yet to see light of the day.

 

[Kaniska]

A nice comparison of Tejas with JF-17 in a Chines Website.

India's Tejas and China's Xiaolong fighters compared｜WCT

 

[Abingdonboy]

Lol at comparing, when JF-17 is already operational with four front line squadron and Tejas has yet to see light of the day.

Is this really what you want to boast of? Let's not discuss the merits of either aircraft but the aircraft that came first is inherently better? Does that make the JF-17 superior to the F-35? Just because India has had a difficult time in achieving its lofty goals and has chosen to not take any shortcuts, does that make the LCA an inherently inferior product?

What kind of logic is this?


The bar for the JF-17 is getting lowered every day as the LCA's capabilities grow and many are coming to see the raw potential of this little beast, now just being in service is an accomplishment for the Thunder .

 

[Windjammer]

Is this really what you want to boost of? Let's not discuss the merits of either aircraft but the aircraft that came first is inherently better? Does that make the JF-17 superior to the F-35? Just because India has had a difficult time in achieving its lofty goals and has chosen to not take any shortcuts, does that make the LCA an inherently inferior product?

What kind of logic is this?


The bar for the JF-17 is getting lowered every day as the LCA's capabilities grow and many are coming to see the raw potential of this little beast, now just being in service is an accomplishment for the Thunder .

It's your war lords comparing the two, what better way to please the home crowd by maligning what your neighbour has.
What's new here, fan boys even go as far as saying that Indian Mirages and Fulcrums are better than our latest F-16s, seems the same psyche runs through the IAF, who have to go on national tv and make tall claims...... history tells a different story.

 

[Abingdonboy]

who have to go on national tv and make tall claims...... history tells a different story.

Well this never happened, only on PDF was such a mountain made out of a molehill.

What's new here, fan boys even go as far as saying that Indian Mirages and Fulcrums are better than our latest F-16s, seems the same psyche runs through the IAF,

Provide some quantitative data to refute these claims then. Upgraded Mirages and MiG-29s of the IAF will provide a hell of a challenge for the F-16 no matter if it is Blk.52. The Blk.52 is not this wonder plane you guys need to believe it is.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

It's your war lords comparing the two, what better way to please the home crowd by maligning what your neighbour has.
What's new here, fan boys even go as far as saying that Indian Mirages and Fulcrums are better than our latest F-16s, seems the same psyche runs through the IAF, who have to go on national tv and make tall claims...... history tells a different story.

The Indian Mirages and Fulcrums are INDEED Better than BLOCK 52 F 16

DOnt believe it ; never mind

As far as LCA is concerned ; it is definitely superior to JF 17

The JF 17 is just ahead in terms of numbers having been inducted
NOT in technology

You should ask PAF chief to make a statement that JF 17 is superior
to LCA if you are confident about it

 

[Bratva]

The bar for the JF-17 is getting lowered every day as the LCA's capabilities grow and many are coming to see the raw potential of this little beast, now just being in service is an accomplishment for the Thunder .

How bar of JF-17 is getting lowered vis a vis LCA ? And which capabilities of LCA has surpassed JF-17. I'm dying to hear.

The Indian Mirages and Fulcrums are INDEED Better than BLOCK 52 F 16

DOnt believe it ; never mind

As far as LCA is concerned ; it is definitely superior to JF 17

The JF 17 is just ahead in terms of numbers having been inducted
NOT in technology

You should ask PAF chief to make a statement that JF 17 is superior
to LCA if you are confident about it

How so Mirages and fulcrums are ahead of F-16? Does former have DRFM included in there EW ?

Same question to you. How JF-17 in its current form inferior to LCA ?

 

[Windjammer]

Well this never happened, only on PDF was such a mountain made out of a molehill.

The likes of Ajay Shakla hardly logs on PDF.

Provide some quantitative data to refute these claims then. Upgraded Mirages and MiG-29s of the IAF will provide a hell of a challenge for the F-16 no matter if it is Blk.52. The Blk.52 is not this wonder plane you guys need to believe it is.

I don't need to provide anything, come back when the likes of your Mirage, Fulcrum or Flanker have a single kill to their name.
You guys first need to acquire the confidence to fly your single engine fighters liberally.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

How bar of JF-17 is getting lowered vis a vis LCA ? And which capabilities of LCA has surpassed JF-17. I'm dying to hear.



How so Mirages and fulcrums are ahead of F-16? Does former have DRFM included in there EW ?

Same question to you. How JF-17 in its current form inferior to LCA ?

LCA is Gods (second after su30 or third after the recent rafael deal) gift to aviation...


It's superior to any jets used by PAF .. Solely because it will be used by iaf..

It's only Windy. Why waste time (and wind)?

Sad to see you troll..

 

[Stephen Cohen]

How so Mirages and fulcrums are ahead of F-16? Does former have DRFM included in there EW ?

Same question to you. How JF-17 in its current form inferior to LCA ?

ADVANTAGES

1. Mig-29 upg Have Low RCS Compared to MKI & Odinary Mig-29(Key in BVR
2. UPG have better Jamming Capabilities with Virgilius Family Jammers This very same suite is now on board on Eurofighter EF-2000. In fact, Virgilius was originally developed for the EF-2000's IADS suite. Apart from the SPECTRA, this the only AESA-based airborne internal directional jamming system available for export.
3. Mig-29 upg is Mounted with Samtel Thales DASH HMDS Topsight

Source: Simulation Analysis: IAF MIG-29UPG VS SUKHOI-30MKI BVR & DOGFIGHT

 

[Abingdonboy]

How bar of JF-17 is getting lowered vis a vis LCA ? And which capabilities of LCA has surpassed JF-17. I'm dying to hear.

I was replying to a specific post by @Windjammer who was apparently diminishing the LCA purely on the basis that the Thunder had entered service first- as if this translates into operational capabilities or comparative performance.

I'm not going to turn this into yet another LCA vs Thunder thread but needless to say the LCA surpasses the Thunder in a number of areas- avionics, weapons, construction, onboard systems (IFR probe, OBOGS etc) as well as by inherent design philosophy.

I don't need to provide anything, come back when the likes of your Mirage, Fulcrum or Flanker have a single kill to their name.

And how many kills do YOUR F-16s or Thunders have? Do not give me USAF statistics for they are meaningless. Just because the IAF has never used many of their current inventory in anger does not diminish their capabilities- to say otherwise is sheer stupidity.

You guys first need to acquire the confidence to fly your single engine fighters liberally.

And what does this even mean?

 

[Bratva]

ADVANTAGES

1. Mig-29 upg Have Low RCS Compared to MKI & Odinary Mig-29(Key in BVR
2. UPG have better Jamming Capabilities with Virgilius Family Jammers This very same suite is now on board on Eurofighter EF-2000. In fact, Virgilius was originally developed for the EF-2000's IADS suite. Apart from the SPECTRA, this the only AESA-based airborne internal directional jamming system available for export.
3. Mig-29 upg is Mounted with Samtel Thales DASH HMDS Topsight

Source: Simulation Analysis: IAF MIG-29UPG VS SUKHOI-30MKI BVR & DOGFIGHT

Perhaps you like to share with us the capabilities of DRFM as well ?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Exactly!

I am no aviation or maritime defense expert. But looking at the present state of Indian defense manufacturing capabilities and their struggles, I think India is at a cusp. India has been dogged by no more than a few sticky issues related to critical technologies like engine and others. But once they are sorted out (which, eventually will be), it will take India no time to be a major player in this defense. Because, we have all other things needed, in-house already! Private industry participation, which has already begun as we speak, will only make India a formidable defense supplier with its industrial capacities.

Those laughing at our present struggles with engines and other critical components, while taking shortcuts for their own defense needs, must realize this.

These hard knocks will come back to benefit India many times over in the long term.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Perhaps you like to share with us the capabilities of DRFM as well ?

Or Indra's EW suite etc used on JF...

(Indra supplies systems for jets like F-18)..