Taseer should have been more balanced, careful: Sharif

[PoKeMon]

What did that word "balance" mean??
Is it keeping ones mouth shut and let the things happen the way they are??
I think Shareef is quite "balance".

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

The Prophet PBUH lived one life and stood by his principles, i do not know how his life before Hijra is irrelevant to me, maybe to you it is.

Your failure to understand that there is a context is something i am trying to highlight and you have proven my point by simply ignoring the context.

If you discriminate against someone based on religion in a petty dispute and resort to name calling/derogatory remarks etc then you can expect the other party to retaliate the same way.
It does not fall under deliberate and repeated blasphemy of the likes of Salman Rushdie since it is not a conscious act and only happens because of a reaction when provoked.

I am sure Bibi had not been habitually doing this before.
In this case this woman was a coworker and was denied the use of a utensil to drink water, this started the argument which clearly was based on religious bias and discrimination and so took an ugly turn.
Now she says she is sorry (despite being provoked into it) but we want her dead, we do not want to see the context...we love to see death.

Saying that she was not the only Mazloom in Pakistani prisons does not change the fact that her case needed attention due to a history of such cases being mishandled and people being killed.
Even judges are afraid to pass not guilty verdict, one was even killed when he let the accused free!

In the blasphemy cases several accused or guilty citizens were killed in prison or under guard so the governor going to the prison may not be an irrelevant act to please Satan but may indeed have been an attempt to prevent such from happening.
What was in his heart is not something i know but he did not deserve to be killed and certainly not in the name of Islam and our Prophet PBUH.

You are very comfortable about Muslims but i am not, the way Muslims have become they can become 90% of the population of earth and it would still not help Islam since they are not following Islam.

I am not apologetic about Islam, however i will not support ignorant acts of murder in the name of Islam which tarnish the message of Islam and are contrary to the life and teachings of the Prophet PBUH.

We are in a mess because of people like the Killer of Taseer and those who see something Islamic and heroic about his merciless act.
There is no difference between Mumtaz and a murderer as per the law of the land, is Mumtaz being treated as a murderer?
Now do not say that many people die in this country, that does not change the fact that murder is murder.
If people make a hero out of Mumtaz then surely there are many heroes amongst the Al Qaeda/TTP for they too believe us to be worth killing because of what they perceive as treachery against Islam.

Idolize Mumtaz and you would produce many Baitullah Mehsud's as well.

assalam alaikum

Hon Sir, In the earlier post u wrote many line trying to explain and justify asia bibi's act coz she was provoked so it can't come under blasphemy, Can we give the same right to qadri, since ST didnot obey the law, called it a black law and eventhuogh she was proven guilty in the court and the mullah's ( evil mullahs) played with his emotions.

TARIQ

 

[PoKeMon]

assalam alaikum

Hon Sir, In the earlier post u wrote many line trying to explain and justify asia bibi's act coz she was provoked so it can't come under blasphemy, Can we give the same right to qadri, since ST didnot obey the law, called it a black law and eventhuogh she was proven guilty in the court and the mullah's ( evil mullahs) played with his emotions.

TARIQ

Nobody means nobody has a right to kill anyone on the name of religion.
Are you justifying this barbaric act or can't find a difference between provoked insult and provoked murder?
Even this evil act doesn't qualify as a provoked one because Taseer has the full rights to express his views peacefully in Pakistan(I hope so) and if you dont agree to it that doesn't give you right to kill someone.
May be some member here doesn't like you and you may be provoking a lot so should they...................

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Hello

Since this matter also touches with our religion i don't discuss with non muslims

Nobody justify murder on the street and nobody can tell us which laws we make to insure nobody will insult our Prophet (PBUHM) AND WHAT PUNISHMENT HE WILL GET END OF STORY.

TARIQ

 

[PoKeMon]

Hello

Since this matter also touches with our religion i don't discuss with non muslims

Nobody justify murder on the street and nobody can tell us which laws we make to insure nobody will insult our Prophet (PBUHM) AND WHAT PUNISHMENT HE WILL GET END OF STORY.

TARIQ

I dont understand why you guys keep your religion like untouchable as if some non muslim will talk some rubbish about it and it will be doomed.
Believe me it wont but such intolerance of you lead to killing of people(even muslims like Taseer) who dare to speak about it.
One more thing let Prophet decide the punishment to be given to those who insult him not some crazy pseudo flag bearer of Islam

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Some ppl just don't understand

TARIQ

 

[Meengla]

Nobody means nobody has a right to kill anyone on the name of religion.
Are you justifying this barbaric act or can't find a difference between provoked insult and provoked murder?
Even this evil act doesn't qualify as a provoked one because Taseer has the full rights to express his views peacefully in Pakistan(I hope so) and if you dont agree to it that doesn't give you right to kill someone.
May be some member here doesn't like you and you may be provoking a lot so should they...................

Correct.
Some people are so violent, so hateful, so twisted in their brains that they fail to see a difference between an ALLEGED blasphemy and a murder.

Having said this, I, along with many other Pakistanis, are finding it hard to believe the support for Qadri. Looks like we underestimated the rot within Pakistan. We lived in some comforting thoughts of majority Barelvis being 'moderate' and that, to quote Musharraf, extremists were only 1% of the population. We are all stunned by proven so wrong. This is a paradigm shift for us.

There is NO WAY this could be pinned to what is happening in the Palestine or Kashmir or Darfur. This is payback time for a nation which gleefully watched Pakistani tv plays of the 80s eulogizing the 'Mujahideen' fighting the 'Godless Commies'. Not even the 'poverty' argument has enough weight because a good bit of these radicalized people are educated, well-fed, and some even reside in the Western world (where they believe in their burqah-clad hell-hole majority).

 

[Ahmad]

taseer is himself responsible for his death. the big mouth shudn't had provoked the religious feelings of the majority.

Yes, and let all the religious fanatics to hijack the whole country. He wasnt responsible for his death, the bigoted killer who killed him is responsible.

 

[PoKeMon]

Some ppl just don't understand

TARIQ

Not everybody here is to insult you and your religion.
Have faith in you and your ideology, try to convince other with what you believe and if you are wrong accept it.
The world look at Islam with so negativity because people dont want to discuss it.
How come people like me can understand what lies there if the educated class dont like to talk about it?
Thanks

 

[Ahmad]

We muslims sometimes act like hypocrates. It is OK for us to destroy the idoles that the other people worship, but it is not OK if the others say A WORD about us.

 

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

Not everybody here is to insult you and your religion.
Have faith in you and your ideology, try to convince other with what you believe and if you are wrong accept it.
The world look at Islam with so negativity because people dont want to discuss it.
How come people like me can understand what lies there if the educated class dont like to talk about it?
Thanks

actually it is quite unfortunate that those who know nothing about ISLAM or have a very minor knowledge( neem hakeem khatrae jaaan and neem mullah khatra eiman) are making some irrational remarks.
they want to justify an irrational matter in rational way.
1st and foremost thing, all should respect others religion and no one has right to abuse others religion.
i don,t want to criticise any non-muslim but its my request to them that it is very sensitive issue and should be delt by ISLAMIC SCHOLARS ( not even by us because our knowledge is not upto that level) .
other thing most of us are unaware of ground realities that led to that unfortunate incident.
so better leave it to ISLAMIC SCHOLARS because our knowledge is not so vast to deal this law..

 

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

We muslims sometimes act like hypocrates. It is OK for us to destroy the idoles that the other people worship, but it is not OK if the others say A WORD about us.

1st thing for your kind information why you people forgets killing of muslims and destruction of mosques by others.
how many innocent muslims have been killed in so called war on terror isnot it hypocracy?
proplem is whom media shows hero, we consider hero and whom it says villain we consider vilain. at this moment media is under controle of liberals and west lovers who represent anyone or anything againsit them as villain and extremist.
biggest hypocrate is you yourself who is blaming yourself without knowing complete truth..

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

If anybody wanna know about islam or even discuss islam we don't have any problem as a matter of fact i m in a place where many ppl come in and abuse us call us many names and we still talk with them. But there r somethings that u can't understand them and i don't know ur intentios also, so why i waist my time and urs ?

I got pm's where jews , christians and other have insulted me i never abuse them and u can watch me on this forum i will never insult anybody and if i do just let me know i will opologize but insulting me is not when sombebody talk about our Prophet ( PBUH) IT IS VERY SENSITIVE TO US.
I hope u understand

TARIQ

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

We muslims sometimes act like hypocrates. It is OK for us to destroy the idoles that the other people worship, but it is not OK if the others say A WORD about us.

assalam alaikum

Prophet ( PBUH) destroyed idols.

TARIQ

 

[mjnaushad]

assalam alaikum

Prophet ( PBUH) destroyed idols.

TARIQ

Prophet destroyed idols in Kabaa... Which i see as a msg that at a place where muslim worship (Mosque) there should be no Idols.... I don't see it as destroy the idols where ever you see them....