Tarek Fatah - India without SINDH, SINDHU is not INDIA

[MultaniGuy]

awww!! Look at you, so desperate. LMAO have you managed to counter me? Last time you were mocking your own posts, pic of 'Adi Sankara'. You lost the moment you quote me the first time to talk stupidity. Now buzz off Django boy. A mleccha is never superior, in history, brahmins used to bath twice if they happened to touch a mleccha by accident. That practice is not followed anymore, thanks to the reformers. It was worse for women, if a mleccha touched a woman even if she's a shudra, she'll be ostracised. When you feel superior, think again, how you were considered by Aryavartis.


Pakistan as a country never existed until 1947. There wasn't an attempt to unify Pakistan because there's nothing important about Pakistan it was neither a rich region nor geographically stronger. Any kingdom that ruled there was under constant threat of invasion from outside forces it only acted as a buffer between the Indian subcontinent and the outside world. Attempts to unify India did happen a lot of time, Mauryans, Kanishkans, Shatavahanas, Gupta, none of them had made an attempt to make an empire centered around Pakistan. FF to Mughals or Sultanates, all of them attempted to unify India, not Pakistan.

Listen, buddy, India did not exist as a country before 1947 either.

India was a bunch of Kingdoms. Stop spewing nonsense here.

 

[Ahmad Sajjad Paracha]

awww!! Look at you, so desperate. LMAO have you managed to counter me? Last time you were mocking your own posts, pic of 'Adi Sankara'. [emoji38] You lost the moment you quote me the first time to talk stupidity. Now buzz off Django boy. A mleccha is never superior, in history, brahmins used to bath twice if they happened to touch a mleccha by accident. That practice is not followed anymore, thanks to the reformers. It was worse for women, if a mleccha touched a woman even if she's a shudra, she'll be ostracised. When you feel superior, think again, how you were considered by Aryavartis.


Pakistan as a country never existed until 1947. There wasn't an attempt to unify Pakistan because there's nothing important about Pakistan it was neither a rich region nor geographically stronger. Any kingdom that ruled there was under constant threat of invasion from outside forces it only acted as a buffer between the Indian subcontinent and the outside world. Attempts to unify India did happen a lot of time, Mauryans, Kanishkans, Shatavahanas, Gupta, none of them had made an attempt to make an empire centered around Pakistan. FF to Mughals or Sultanates, all of them attempted to unify India, not Pakistan.

None of the kings named by you attempted to unify india neither did india exist at that time they simply wanted to conquer as much land as they could for their personal gain/benefit espacially muslims dynasties they already had the area of present pakistan so inorder to gain more teritories they conqured all the land nothing was done for united india. United india is nothing but a myth made by your congress leaders like nehru

 

[LASER1]

None of the kings named by you attempted to unify india neither did india exist at that time they simply wanted to conquer as much land as they could for their personal gain/benefit espacially muslims dynasties they already had the area of present pakistan so inorder to gain more teritories they conqured all the land nothing was done for united india. United india is nothing but a myth made by your congress leaders like nehru

Keep believing that. It's like all those rulers were having fun when they conquered lands. That's the purpose of every country dude, to be stronger. What Nehru did was nothing different from those Kings, although he wasn't a king, he still used Military to conquer some regions. Like Goa, Hyderabad etc...

 

[Ahmad Sajjad Paracha]

Keep believing that. It's like all those rulers were having fun when they conquered lands. That's the purpose of every country dude, to be stronger. What Nehru did was nothing different from those Kings, although he wasn't a king, he still used Military to conquer some regions. Like Goa, Hyderabad etc...

Well i think it's u who should keep believing in some mythical united india like ur leaders. Whether it was a fun for rulers or not but still they fought wars to extend their empires and u don't need to tell me about the forceful mergance of princely states of junagardh, hyderabad and others into india i know about that.

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[Indus Pakistan]

That's was your ONLY point of differentiation my learned friend.

There were many and they still exist in Pakistan and India. But that was the only one in 1947 that provided the political energy to undo the common denominator that the British had foisted on us in 1849 - namely being made a British colony.

And as you know they even lumped Burmo-Mongolians into the giant slave ship called the British Raj.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

And as you know they even lumped Burmo-Mongolians into the giant slave ship called the British Raj.

Do these Burmo-Mongolians share one particular common costume which is worn all over South Asia viz. saree? Google the pics. Why, even Pakistan's lady general's official uniform is saree and even President Ayub Khan's wife wore saree on official visit to USA.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Do these Burmo-Mongolians share one particular common costume which is worn all over South Asia viz. saree? Google the pics. Why, even Pakistan's lady general's official uniform is saree and even President Ayub Khan's wife wore saree on official visit to USA.

That is one cross over and rather limited from India. The strongest current came during 1947 migrants from India. But it was not native to Pakistan. I can mention 10 differant things that Indian's have adopted from the Iranic rim on the west. And you will see saree on every street corner in some UK towns. So it does not prove anything. It's like me using London Mayor Sadiq Khan as the face of British people.

 

[padamchen]

There were many and they still exist in Pakistan and India. But that was the only one in 1947 that provided the political energy to undo the common denominator that the British had foisted on us in 1849 - namely being made a British colony.

And as you know they even lumped Burmo-Mongolians into the giant slave ship called the British Raj.

Correct. But that's what I said, did I not.

It's what got what you have.

Now you need to live with it and build on it. Rather than allow it to tear you apart.

Also, just as you guys are wanting or trying to undo things, so are hard-line elements in my country. Who see your faith as an alien squatter on their land. Imposed on them over the past thousand years.

How far back do you want to go?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Now you need to live with it and build on it. Rather than allow it to tear you apart.

Yeh, I know. We have to do the best with the template we have.

 

[padamchen]

Yeh, I know. We have to do the best with the template we have.

All of India were and remain Hindu. There is no different civilization here.

You guys are two distinct ones. Read the exchange between Leon n Kabira.

THAT is what you are dealing with. Not the issues of Islam.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Indus Pakistan]

All of India were and remain Hindu.

Wrong. You have Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Bhuddist and not a altogether insignificant Christian minority. And on the other scale that you used to divide us in India you have even bigger chasms. Dravidian, Austro-Aborginal, Burmo-Tibetan and Indo-aryan. Frankly ours are insignificant compared to yours. And this ethnic kicking about always will exist. Even in UK we get Scots, English, Welsh crapping each other.

And your are Parsee which is as alien to India as ..... mmmmm well toilets?

 

[LASER1]

Well i think it's u who should keep believing in some mythical united india like ur leaders. Whether it was a fun for rulers or not but still they fought wars to extend their empires and u don't need to tell me about the forceful mergance of princely states of junagardh, hyderabad and others into india i know about that.

haha I guess you got my point. India wasn't a mythical entity, it was very real. Only that, now it's one of the largest piece of land in the history of the subcontinent. It'll remain so in the foreseeable future.
And we did play our sides well both militarily, why so sour about it, these regions weren't going to be yours anyway.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

And if India is about Hinduism you need to launch another 'police operation' to integrate Nepal, Sri Lanka before yu move over to Bali etc.

The concept of India equals Hinduism is as full of holes as Pakistan is homeland of Muslims.

 

[padamchen]

Wrong. You have Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Bhuddist and not a altogether insignificant Christian minority. And on the other scale that you used to divide us in India you have even bigger chasms. Dravidian, Austro-Aborginal, Burmo-Tibetan and Indo-aryan. Frankly ours are insignificant compared to yours. And this ethnic kicking about always will exist. Even in UK we get Scots, English, Welsh crapping each other.

And your are Parsee which is as alien to India as ..... mmmmm well toilets?

Essentially, all the religious denominations you speak about (except ONLY us ... ) are ALL essentially civilizational Hindus.

So is around 65% of Pakistan, and ALL of Nepal and Sri Lanka. And of course Bangladesh.

You and the remainder 35% Pakistani populace are civilizational Zoroastrians. Culturally, politically, and spiritually.

Islam can noore unite you two as it can the Arabs and the Persians.

Cheers, Doc

P.S. notice we thought of the same point in parallel posts. Which is why I enjoy my exchanges with you.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

That is one cross over and rather limited from India. The strongest current came during 1947 migrants from India. But it was not native to Pakistan. I can mention 10 differant things that Indian's have adopted from the Iranic rim on the west. And you will see saree on every street corner in some UK towns. So it does not prove anything. It's like me using London Mayor Sadiq Khan as the face of British people.

It doesn't prove anything. But it's wrong to say that it's a cross-over from India in 1947. Do you realize the significance of the post this lady is holding? She is an army general NOT some model or actress. Why isn't she wearing salwar kameez? Air hostesses wear salwar kameez. Why not army generals?