Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[#hydra#]

Now answer me as a neutral person

You already got the offer go for it if money & logistical nightmare is not matter,otherwise j-10( I believe Chinese claim on its capability,there civilian stuff are bad one but no one will make shit for there own armed forces) or by using Russian offer make a good bargain with US and fetch some more f16.

 

[knight11]

Care to explain.

We know A to Z about su30 MKI

What does A to Z means does India have all the aerodynamic variables and parameters and flight characteristic data, does India have all the metallurgical composition knowledge used in MKI, Does India is manufacturing even its tyres, Does India have the source code of Bars, Fly by wire, fire control, navigation system.

and up to some extent on Chinese su30 but not on the su 35

What are you smoking Su30Mkk is different than MKI the previous don't have TVC so different flight characteristic
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we are almost completely blind on su 35,even its RCS, AL 41's heat signature,ecms etc.

Yes you are completely blind on Su 35 and what is rcs its very popular among jignostics like you, remember no OEM or the manufacturer mentioned any rcs of any aircraft, AL41 heat signature ?? Now do you know what does that means and how it is detected by the way.

Now to blast some bubble do you know that Su 30MKI don't have MAWS and no internal jammer

Feel free to ask more if you didn't understand what I wrote

 

[Secret Service]

Who will pay for it ??

we are not talking about money here... availability is the main issue

 

[Khanivore]

"The Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov referred to Pakistan as Russia's closest partner"

After all that was said on this forum by Indian members, what does this mean now?

 

[knight11]

What plane suits paf best in your opinion?

That depends on the PAF needs and I am excluding any political/military/economical problems aside than say if they want Air Superiority fighter Plane to counter IAF MKI that best will be F-15E or the Eurofighter 2000 Tranche 4, if wants multirole fighter thatn SAAB Gripen NG, Rafale F4, if wanted 5th Gen than F-35 is the best option (leave speculated baloons of J31, TFX), for PN airforce than F-18.

 

[Blue Marlin]

That depends on the PAF needs and I am excluding any political/military/economical problems aside than say if they want Air Superiority fighter Plane to counter IAF MKI that best will be F-15E or the Eurofighter 2000 Tranche 4, if wants multirole fighter thatn SAAB Gripen NG, Rafale F4, if wanted 5th Gen than F-35 is the best option (leave speculated baloons of J31, TFX), for PN airforce than F-18.

eft trance 4! dont you mean the tranche 3

 

[knight11]

eft trance 4! dont you mean the tranche 3

He He thanx buddy it was typing error and how is the life going

 

[Kakaspai]

That depends on the PAF needs and I am excluding any political/military/economical problems aside than say if they want Air Superiority fighter Plane to counter IAF MKI that best will be F-15E or the Eurofighter 2000 Tranche 4, if wants multirole fighter thatn SAAB Gripen NG, Rafale F4, if wanted 5th Gen than F-35 is the best option (leave speculated baloons of J31, TFX), for PN airforce than F-18.

Since paf thinks that JFT block 3 would be equal to gripen ng so its out.India is close to signing the deal for Rafael so its out too.f18 for PN its too expensive.we are left with f15 and eurofighter.

 

[09ee97]

are u sure about 75 if it is than it gonna be bhale bhale for paf


A nation with $ 19 billion in her savings account, for national security purposes, can spend $ 2 billion tomorrow and get stuff on cash. The only thing like I've said many times is, Pakistan is being smart about it. She doesn't want to tick off the WB and the IMF (both of which have a lot of Indian influence).

How about no? 2 billion dollars = 200 billion rupees. Spend this much on people, education, health and infrastructure and you will see a change. Not everybody wants modern air crafts, nukes and wars. Several of us want to live a peaceful life.

 

[Kakaspai]

How about no? 2 billion dollars = 200 billion rupees. Spend this much on people, education, health and infrastructure and you will see a change. Not everybody wants modern air crafts, nukes and wars. Several of us want to live a peaceful life.

Some people will say boring life.JK peace

 

[knight11]

Since paf thinks that JFT block 3 would be equal to gripen ng so its out.India is close to signing the deal for Rafael so its out too.f18 for PN its too expensive.we are left with f15 and eurofighter.

Can you provide me any link where Paf thinks that JFT block 3 is equal to gripen Ng. What is JFT block 3 by the way??

 

[09ee97]

Since paf thinks that JFT block 3 would be equal to gripen ng so its out.India is close to signing the deal for Rafael so its out too.f18 for PN its too expensive.we are left with f15 and eurofighter.

The block number is a funny thing. It was supposed to have AESA radar already in block 2 but i guess it will still take a 3-4 years. You can name blocks however you want but that wont change their technical capabilities.

 

[Kakaspai]

The block number is a funny thing. It was supposed to have AESA radar already in block 2 but i guess it will still take a 3-4 years. You can name blocks however you want but that wont change their technical capabilities.

Yup the current block 2 is what block 1 should have been but anyways.during the paris air show Air chief confirmed the aesa radar for block 3

 

[knight11]

The block number is a funny thing. It was supposed to have AESA radar already in block 2 but i guess it will still take a 3-4 years. You can name blocks however you want but that wont change their technical capabilities.

In block 2 I think OBOGS, air refuiling pod and software updates for MMR was implemented. Correct me if I am wrong. Any news of which Aesa Radar Paf is interested.

 

[09ee97]

Yup the current block 2 is what block 1 should have been but anyways.during the paris air show Air chief confirmed the aesa radar for block 3

I would still take it with a pinch of salt. There is a contrasting difference between what PAF says and what it actually does. The past is a clear example of that.

The most important upgrade for me was AESA but no, lets just add useless shit and see if it can beat gripen or whatever it is capable to beat.