Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[Peaceful Civilian]

This is all part of the New Great Game being played in Asia.

The New Great Game. Blood and Oil in Central Asia - by Lutz C. Kleveman

1. Russia want china to buy 45 su35s.They offered it to Pak, so that china get fast negotiations on this.
2. Russia want india to purchase Su35s.
3. We are showing interest in negotiations so that Uncle Sam offer us something which is difficult to deny.
4. We are showing interest in negotiations so that china speedup it's j31s project according to PAF requirements


Conclusion :
We will not see front line fighters of Russia in PAF colors atleast in this decade.
A.) Russia is new trade partner, and we can't trust Russia.
B.) It will take time to reach trust and mutual interest regardless of its relation with our enemy.
C.) In this decade, if we have to choose between U.S.A and Russia, then our choice will be U.S.A due to old relation and mutual understanding of many issues. Uncle Sam will not hesitate to provide us f18s and even F35 in future if we give them assurance that technology will not fall in China hands as we ensured them in F16 block 52+ case.

 

[RealNapster]

Pakistan and Russia are in the process of negotiating what analysts believe can be potentially the largest defence deal between the two countries, IHS Jane’s reported.

“The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has discussed buying Su-35 ‘Flanker-E’ fighter jets from Russia but a final decision is yet to be announced,” theIHS quoted a senior government official as saying.

Read: Talks on delivery of fighter jets, attack helicopters underway: Russian deputy FM

The senior government official’s remarks come in the wake of Russian media reports that Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov had said talks were underway for an unspecified number of Su-35s and a recent agreement for provision of Mi-35M ‘Hind E’ attack helicopters to Pakistan.

“It is too early to say if a deal will conclude and the terms,” the official said highlighting Russia’s willingness to sell advanced military hardware to Pakistan despite Moscow’s longstanding ties with India.

“Pakistan’s interest in the Su-35 was driven by the PAF’s need for a twin-engine fighter that can fly for a longer range than the JF-17 and penetrate more deeply into the enemy’s territory,’ the official revealed.

Pakistan currently relies on a mixed fleet of Lockheed Martin F-16s, Dassault Mirage-5s, Chinese manufactured F-7s and the JF-17 Thunder, which is co-manufactured by Pakistan and China.

Last month, Russia agreed to sell state-of-the-art Mi-35 attack helicopters to Pakistan in what is seen as a ‘paradigm shift’ in Moscow’s policy to increase defence cooperation between the two countries.

“An agreement was signed between Pakistan and Russian authorities in Rawalpindi for the purchase of 4 Mi-35 helicopters,” a senior military official had said, not disclosing any further details.

Read: Paradigm shift: Russia agrees to sell Mi-35 helicopters to Pakistan

Moscow for long ignored Islamabad in a bid to please its long-term ally New Delhi. But as a result of India’s growing tilt towards the US, Russia has now started expanding its cooperation with Pakistan.

For its part, Islamabad is eager to improve its ties with Moscow to diversify its options in the event of any stalemate in ties with Washington.

May be we get 2 squadron's of Su-35 in 5 years. but at this time we have 4 Squadrons of threads on PDF, on "Pak buying Su-35" .. Just imagine, till the procurement of Su-35 we will have 200+ Squadrons of indigenous threads on PDF about Su-35... Indian's must be Sooo jealous

 

[GURU DUTT]

1. Russia want china to buy 36 su35s.They offered it to Pak, so that china get fast negotiations on this.
2. Russia want india to purchase Su35s.
3. We are showing interest in negotiations so that Uncle Sam offer us something which is difficult to deny.
4. We are showing interest in negotiations so that china speedup it's FC31 project according to PAF requirements


Conclusion :
We will not see front line fighters of Russia in PAF colors atleast in this decade.
A.) Russia is new trade partner, and we can't trust Russia.
B.) It will take time to reach trust and mutual interest regardless of its relation with our enemy.
C.) In this decade, if we have to choose between U.S.A and Russia, then our choice will be U.S.A due to old relation and mutual understanding of many issues. Uncle Sam will not hesitate to provide us f18s and even F35 in future if we give them assurance that technology will not fall in China hands as we ensured them in F18 block 52+ case.

when did you had F-18s and when did its Blk52 came

jokes apart the fact is american experts are present 24X7X365 on those pakistani airbases ever since Blk-52s arrived in pakistan and before every sortie new source codes are loaded on Blk-52s by american experts onli ... try to check it

but the point is russia is doing this trolling so india buys the stuff it wants to sell to india (stealth frigates, T90MS, AMUR subs and russian transport aircrafts among others)

rest you can speculate yourself

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

when did you had F-18s and when did its Blk52 came

Typo mistake guru bhai. Edited now. And I want to see in PAF colors as soon as possible with AIM120D.
lolzzzz

 

[farhan_9909]

khuda k liye ye news post krna band kr do warna hamare indian dost agar sadmay se nahin marr gye to suicide kr lengey

 

[GURU DUTT]

Typo mistake guru bhai. Edited now. And I want to see in PAF colors as soon as possible with AIM120D.
lolzzzz

well dont know will the yamricans will give you AIM120D after what happenned... khair jane do but point is India already has both versions of MICA,almost all versions of russian BVRs and now the I Derby ER(with tamir missile seeker ) while when rafale comes meteor will come and two versions of indian ASTRA BVR are already in testing phase with it i hope you know what i mean

can any respected indian memeber like @MilSpec tell us what are the diffrent types of BVRs in indian innoventory .... thanks

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

khuda k liye ye news post krna band kr do warna hamare indian dost agar sadmay se nahin marr gye to suicide kr lengey

They have sleepless night during su35 negotiations time.lol ..... While Imagine if we get 1 or 2 squardon of F35 from uncle sam. It will give us qualitative edge, and 2nd best stealth fighter in the world. Russia can't match U.S.A in air industry sector. Even U.S.A decades ahead in stealth technology, lol they just retired their f117s in 2008 when Russia and others were looking on drawing board. Don't even imagine operational clearance. .

 

[GURU DUTT]

They have sleepless night during su35 negotiations time.lol ..... While Imagine if we get 1 or 2 squardon of F35 from uncle sam. It will give us qualitative edge, and 2nd best stealth fighter in the world. Russia can't match U.S.A in air industry sector. Even U.S.A decades ahead in stealth technology, lol they just retired their f117s in 2008 when Russia and others were looking on drawing board. Don't even imagine operational clearance. .

so now you are changing the goal post to F-35 when you yourself know yamrican love for pakistan ... pehlewithout strings attached F-16 hi le lo sirji

but F-35C is coming for for indian IAC-2 as USA will onli give EMALS, AAG and E-2D/E if we buy F-35C and im sure India wont mind having a couple of squads of F-35C either (i wonder what kind of weponarry will come with it )

good luck with su-35 sirji

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

so now you are changing the goal post to F-35 when you yourself know yamrican love for pakistan ... pehlewithout strings attached F-16 hi le lo sirji

but F-35C is coming for for indian IAC-2 as USA will onli give EMALS, AAG and E-2D/E if we buy F-35C and im sure India wont mind having a couple of squads of F-35C either (i wonder what kind of weponarry will come with it )

good luck with su-35 sirji

Russian stuff is also expected string attached due to its relation with India. And it is more string attached & riskier than U.S.A.
Nahi Yar tu F35c na lay. Su35 ap hi rakho apny pass. F35 hamara.
India don't like front line fighters of U.S.A due to strings attached and no TOT.
F35 ap bhool jao. Pak Fa & Rafale se guzara chalao aor Su35 khareed lo

 

[[Bregs]]

Arey bhai solve the Kashmir issue once for all on table and invest this money in development

Also open visa for general public so that i too can eat tandoori chicken/fish at Lahore food street and also go to enjoy majestic Baluchistan

 

[GURU DUTT]

Russian stuff is also expected string attached due to its relation with India. And it is more string attached & riskier than U.S.A.
Nahi Yar tu F35c na lay. Su35 ap hi rakho apny pass. F35 hamara.
India don't like front line fighters of U.S.A due to strings attached and no TOT.
F35 ap bhool jao. Pak Fa & Rafale se guzara chalao aor Su35 khareed lo

what if i told you according to some sources in india will be having F-35s , Su-35s(super sukhoi MLU/AESA radar&avioniks+new engines) and rafales in IAF

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

what if i told you according to some sources in india will be having F-35s , Su-35s(super sukhoi MLU/AESA rasar&avioniks+new engines) and rafales in IAF

I already told you F35 have less chance in india due to IAF doctrine. You Expect Pakfa confirm in your inventory .

 

[GURU DUTT]

I already told you F35 have less chance in india due to IAF doctrine. You Expect Pakfa confirm in your inventory .

abhi to khel bas shuru hi hua hai sirji picture to abhi baaki hai

 

[ultron]

Su-35 > Rafale. In terms of everything.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

abhi to khel bas shuru hi hua hai sirji picture to abhi baaki hai

Picture kia, video b Baki hai. Now, I am turning on VPN , because I, m boring now. Expecting something different , art and creativity in .... site
Don't disturb me .