Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[Vyom]

We are already paying america 1 billion dollar (67 million dollar per piece) for 15 vipers choppers.
Any more butt hurt questions?

Okay 15 vipers. that's hardly a Squadron. so you will but one squadron of Su 35 and threaten Inida with it.. good luck... and yes Su 35 cost is without weapons.

 

[hell__raider]

By the time Pakistan gets Su-35 India will get PAK-FA. Pakistan is behind the curve.

 

[batmannow]

after all this...India is still the biggest buyer for Russia....can they afford to lose that buyer....Can you lose your traditional biggest buyer for very small buyer who is mostly rely on loan

No way India can go to any one , cause then whole of its Russian made navy & air force will be sitting duck with out spares & supplies from Russia ?
Just few orders to USA won't make India running its hugely Russian bassesd air force & navy running day to day operations.
& what ever & to whom ever India orders it won't make their air force or navay standup in few days ?

 

[Cry.me.a.River]

I'll be honest, this would suck if it goes through.

Only if you still believe in India-Russia bhai-bhai and ignore that Indo-Russian relations have always been based on hard economics.

Such a radical move would give a kick in nuts to Russian lobby in South block, and accelerate our program of indigenisation and move towards western sources.

 

[Great Sachin]

India isnt going any where.
Iaf is 90 percent russian jets, except mirages.

Iaf cant get rid of russian jets till next 3 decades. Su 30 are supreme iaf jets and the situation will remain so in coming decades.

India is tightly bound to russia by PAKFA and upgrade programs for SU30 and mig 29. Russian knows that india cant divorse them so they are discovering new friends.

how about future projects.....India is biggest revenue maker for Russia....

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

but we can stop new business with Russia....like PAK FA etc....which is huge deal compare to your tiny deal...

You can't even if you wanted to... From jets down to ammunition you are dependent on Russia ... Most of your military is soviet made... You are dependent on Russia ... Not the otherwat around.

 

[hell__raider]

By the time Pakistan gets Su-35 India will get PAK-FA. Pakistan is behind the curve.

 

[batmannow]

By the time Pakistan gets Su-35 India will get PAK-FA. Pakistan is behind the curve.

Its been happening since 14years ?
Still on papers ?lolzz

 

[gau8av]

Only if you still believe in India-Russia bhai-bhai and ignore that Indo-Russian relations have always been based on hard economics.

Such a radical move would give a kick in nuts to Russian lobby in South block, and accelerate our program of indigenisation and move towards western sources.

that's the real endgame but Indigenization is still long way off, for now we're still heavily dependent on imports.

 

[I M Sikander]

but we can stop new business with Russia....like PAK FA etc....which is huge deal compare to your tiny deal...

Just go and do it dude. Do it at once if indian defence strategist have balls.

 

[hell__raider]

Its been happening since 14years ?
Still on papers ?lolzz

Developing a fifth generation plane takes time. It is not as simple as recruiting some kids as jihadis, training them for 3 months & sending them to Kashmir.

 

[Maarkhoor]

after all this...India is still the biggest buyer for Russia....can they afford to lose that buyer....Can you lose your traditional biggest buyer for very small buyer who is mostly rely on loan

yes it is right India is the biggest buyer of Russian Stuff but is India succeeded to Stop Russia selling top fighters and equipment to China and one more thing India is the top buyer and top dependent is it possible for India to ditch Russian ? yes business is business India trying to procure Jets from France and helo From USA.

 

[Erroroverload]

 

[kamrananvaar]

Most probably Russia playing with Pakistan and Pakistan also for two reasons
1- Russia want India to get jets from Russia only
2- Pakistan is telling USA if not you provide high tech weapons we can purchase from Russia.
It is game if Pakistan needs these type of Fighter we can get from China easily since we can't trust bear so that the Bear.

We cant trust america or havent you learned your lesson yet . Name one instance that the us has stood up for you. .
You get f16 after how many years that you paid for . The irony you had to pay for storage and your leadership never sued their *** . That being ganja and co not that zrdari wouldnt have done the same.
I am not a technical person but after so many years doesnt the tech become obsolete. Also the ban on pakistan . Does that ring a bell.

 

[Great Sachin]

No way India can go to any one , cause then whole of its Russian made navy & air force will be sitting duck with out spares & supplies from Russia ?
Just few orders to USA won't make India running its hugely Russian bassesd air force & navy running day to day operations.
& what ever & to whom ever India orders it won't make their air force or navay standup in few days ?

we already started buying from US and France....Dont forget all the SU30 parts are being manufactured in India...Russian will loose billion if they stop supplying other parts....

and why they will do all this for some tiny deal with Pakistan?