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Talibans are not Pakistan's friend : Gen Tariq Khan

What's going on here, where are our border guards, where is the FC commandant of this area. Talk to these Talibs or arrest them!

The reason this only exist on PDF is because there are folks who are idiot enough to buy it as being something legitimate that is why...

Remember that thread where Qari Fashiuddin was supposedly to say we don't recognize the Durand line which was proven to be fake even going as far as to saying in the tweet that Qari himself tweeted that out and he doesn't have twitter..

If IEA truly wanted to say this they would have made it public using official channels why are we operating at assumption levels via fake news here.. I have never seen a respected forum eat so much fake news like this one.. It is losing it's value really fast.

few agents can play with you this much you are proving to be an easy prey... The future is not so bright here to be honest. The target is not IEA or anyone in that matter but Pakistan make no mistake just like how that China-Pak ties were targetted extensively.. The age of the video is unknown and could be doctored just like that Qari Fashiuddin claim which was invented..

What is there to HIDE seriously... If IEA wants to accept such position they would have made an official release thru the real channels. there seems to be like 5th world problem on PDF where fake news is being eaten to much.. This is extremely backyard....

Probably an Indian operated handle cited ''A freaking chief of staffs from a country but nobody dared to question or asked for evidence via obsecure tweet'' what does this show.. I could probably generate alot of fake news via twitter and do it here and I swear you will all eat it up and nobody will question it
 
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Just one problem. afghanistan relies on us for survival, if we seal our border, afghanistan dies and they know it. If the Pushtuns get their own nation, it would make modern day afghanistan look like Dubai or Monaco and they know it. But yes I agree, we need a strong leader who can efficiently and powerfully deal with the Afghan question/problem.

Afghanistan rely on War economy, they need a enemy to fight because that is how they run their illegal economy of smuggling and drugs, Pakistan has let many Afghan's in and them integrating with our Pathans has created a dangerous ethnic ultra nationalists who can not and will not be integrated with rest of the Pakistan, Pakistani's Pashtoon's time and time again has proven their disloyalty to Pakistan by harboring Terrorists from their own ethnicity just because of they belong to the same ethnic group, Afghan refugee are poisoning our Pashtoons to a extend where they are now openly rebelling against the state of Pakistan, they won't stop until they get a independent Pashtoonistan or merge with Afghanistan, but if you give KPK to Afghanistan, then it will create a domino effect, thing is that we as nation are bunch of idiots and our ethnic identities matter more than our own country.
 
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Afghanistan rely on War economy, they need a enemy to fight because that is how they run their illegal economy of smuggling and drugs, Pakistan has let many Afghan's in and them integrating with our Pathans has created a dangerous ethnic ultra nationalists who can not and will not be integrated with rest of the Pakistan, Pakistani's Pashtoon's time and time again has proven their disloyalty to Pakistan by harboring Terrorists from their own ethnicity just because of they belong to the same ethnic group, Afghan refugee are poisoning our Pashtoons to a extend where they are now openly rebelling against the state of Pakistan, they won't stop until they get a independent Pashtoonistan or merge with Afghanistan, but if you give KPK to Afghanistan, then it will create a domino effect, thing is that we as nation are bunch of idiots and our ethnic identities matter more than our own country.




Okay, so how can the pusthun merge with afghanistan and WHAT incentives are there for them to join afghanistan? After all, afghanistan is Dubai and Monaco combined........... :disagree:
 
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Usually I treat Afghanistanis as much as I treat Pakistanis.

Afghan Taliban are pro-Pakistan.

It was just Northern Alliance which had ambivalent views towards Pakistan.
 
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:offtopic: BUT in ALL HONESTY, did you know that afghans excel in human failure and misery?.........when comes to failure and inferiority, NO nation or people beats afghanistan and afghans...........I am being serious.

NO nation or people beats afghanistan and afghans. ???

Most of Afghanis fled to Iran, Pakistan on Cold War and after 9/11,

Most of their wars were fought by Americans, Chinese, Russians and even Pakistan

All Talib mullah mostly were/are from Pakistani madarsahs.
Al Qaeda's Wild Butchers were/are from Arabs who participated only for slaughtering minorities and other sects..
 
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NO nation or people beats afghanistan and afghans. ???

Most of Afghanis fled to Iran, Pakistan on Cold War and after 9/11,

Most of their wars were fought by Americans, Chinese, Russians and even Pakistan

All Talib mullah mostly were/are from Pakistani madarsahs.
Al Qaeda's Wild Butchers were/are from Arabs who participated only for slaughtering minorities and other sects..






Can you name ANYTHING REMOTELY successful that the afghans have even SLIGHTLY achieved?. You can't answer with SPECTACULAR failures.
 
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Okay, so how can the pusthun merge with afghanistan and WHAT incentives are there for them to join afghanistan? After all, afghanistan is Dubai and Monaco combined........... :disagree:

Ethnicity is their motivation, we always say that Afghans never accepted the Durand line, but in reality most of Pakistan's Pashtoon's also never respected Durand line, they still believe Afghanistan and Pakistan or at least KPK to be a borderless region, whether it goes to Afghanistan or Afghan areas merge with Pakistan is yet to be seen, but I don't think that even the Pashtoons of KPK would accept the mergence of Afghan areas into Pakistan. Pashtoons have this ethnic superiority complex and because of that they won't let anyone else rule over their " alleged Areas ".
 
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Okay, so how can the pusthun merge with afghanistan and WHAT incentives are there for them to join afghanistan? After all, afghanistan is Dubai and Monaco combined........... :disagree:

There are 9 million plus Afghans in Pakistan, living and working in Karachi and elsewhere They need us more than we need them and they know it. There is no incentive apart from false pride. So they would prefer you had nothing too just like them so they don't feel bad. Yes these really are a nation of grown men behaving like petulant children. :lol:
 
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Who are the Taliban actually friends of? only China maybe.

IEA first and foremost friend is Pakistan and China basically both.. Didn't you see the bashful party the elite in Islamabad threw for IEA in front of OIC and besides even collected some money themselves out of the event but either way I mean as in outside of the world of assumptions but in the real world

but in the assumption world it is different since we are talking about PDF alternative world realm then anything flies in that realm.............
 
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Gen. Tariq has been too close to Americans since his war of terror days, he drank the CENTCOM cool aid long ago and went the proverbial native.

This is the same man who wanted GoP to bring US in on the CPEC to hedge against the Chinese

He's just parrotting the tired old US DoD talking points, I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the take from CIA.
 
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While in this debate of if Taliban are friends of Pakistan and foe we must not miss critical factor that Taliban right now are not a cohesive force. They are a union of various groups each pursuing their own agenda. Then there is Pushtun nationalism. Be it TTP or TTA, both are Pushtun and they always had linkages even relations among each other. 3rdly, Afghan Taliban are not a disciplined army. They are groups and many of them are compromised by the forces hostile to Pakistan. All of these factors are making it very complex. Anyone asking for a brute force solution, must understand that US despite spending 2.3 Trillion USD could not eliminate Taliban. Even after spending that much and installing their cronies in Kabul, they managed to spend 20 odd years in Afghanistan . Pakistan with 13 Billion annual defense budget is in no position to impose a mil solution and even if we did that to some degree of success, India and her friends will make sure we face a way bigger monster than TTP even was. Best strategy would be to isolate, identify and eliminate hostile elements after taking Taliban top leadership in confidence. Help them to build a structure of army as now they are in government, they are responsible for statecraft. They can't be doing it hiding in caves.
 
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Let's accept it. Many groups within Taliban are not our friends. We only have a marginal influence on Haqqanis the one group within whole Taliban.
Historically there is no reason for Talibans or any other Afghans against any other border. All Afghans have issues with Durand line.

BTW! Taliban affiliated twitter accounts are also posting this video with reference to Durand line. The comments to these tweets are all referring to Punjabis (Pakistan) and asking Taliban to do more..

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Guys not sure why we are jumping on this video. Even the video says this is Uzbek not Pakistani. So people need to just hold on and be calm. I am not saying Taliban are a good bunch, and yes Pakistan needs to stay vigilant, but this is not according to the video a Pak fence, but instead it is an Uzbek fence.
 
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