Taj Mahal will collaspe in 5 years

[INDIC]

you idiot it was mughal/babur in turkish empire not shah jehans empire

I meant Mughal Empire in Shah Jehan times, Mughals were initially Turko-Mongol. Although they chose Mughal (Persian means. Mongol) for their Empire. Later they intermarried with different groups Indians, Persians etc.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

When were Moghul a part of turkish empire?

And Shah Jehan was descendant of Babur..

mate what do you know about history you are talking?

Shah Jehan was descendant of Babur , babur was founder of mughal / babur(turkish) empire , babur was descendant of timur who is a chagtai Turk who wants to bring legacy of cengiz han back and really admires him.

 

[jbond197]

Zahir-ud-din Muhammad Babur (February 14, 1483 – December 26, 1530; sometimes also spelt Baber or Babar) was a conqueror from Central Asia who, following a series of setbacks, finally succeeded in laying the basis for the Mughal dynasty in the Indian Subcontinent and became the first Mughal emperor. He was a direct descendant of Timur through his father, and a descendant also of Genghis Khan through his mother; hence, he identified his lineage as Timurid and Chaghatay-Turkic. He was greatly influenced by Persian culture and this affected both his own actions and those of his successors, giving rise to a significant expansion of the Persianate ethos in the Indian subcontinent.[1][2]

 

[Hyde]

stick to the topic please

Create a separate thread if you want to discuss history of Safavid, Mughals or other empires

 

[INDIAISM]

They were not direct descendants of Chenghez khan rather a mix of middle eastern tribes+Mongols from Mongolia..

Babur had very mongoloid looks..

If i am right Changez Khan was father of Babur's mother....or you can say Changez khan was Maternal Grand Father of Babur...

 

[northeast]

the mughals were turko mongols and direct descendends of chenghez khan, they were nothing like the turks of turkey

no，timur was not a mongol by any means.He claims he is the descent of chengiz khan because it's a tradition that only mongols who is the descent of chengiz khan has the right to conquere the central asian turkic world.
He and his family are true turks，even though they all claim they came from the greatest conquerer Chengiz Khan.

 

[INDIC]

Changez Khan was father of Babur's mother....or you can say Changez khan was grand father of Babu

He was his descendant, not a grandson.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

I meant Mughal Empire in Shah Jehan times, Mughals were initially Turko-Mongol. Although they chose Mughal (Persian means. Mongol) for their Empire. Later they intermarried with different groups Indians, Persians etc.

so because you are embarrased you are ruled you will soon say they are indian aswell .



TO EVERYONE I FOUND A PROFESSOR , THIS GUY WROTE MANY BOOKS , THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT SHAH ISMAIL AND TALKS ABOUT EVERYTHING .

15.28 ( TURKISH) he says that in the last 1000 years Turkic rulers ruled iran for a very long time except a few persian dynasties e.g he says zent dynasty ( dno what it is in persian )

 

[jbond197]

Timur was born in Transoxiana, in the City of Kesh (an area now better known as Shahrisabz, "the green city"), some 50 miles south of Samarkand in modern Uzbekistan, then part of the Chagatai Khanate. His father, Taraqai, was a small-scale landowner and belonged to the Barlas tribe. The Barlas was a Turko-Mongol tribe which was originally a Mongol tribe[20] and was Turkified[21] and/or became Turkic-speaking or intermingling with the Turkic peoples. According to Gérard Chaliand, Timur was a Muslim Turk[24] but he saw himself as Genghis Khan's heir.[24] Though not a Chinggisid, he clearly sought to evoke the legacy of Genghis Khan's conquests during his lifetime.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

He was his descendant, not a grandson.

Unbelieavable , this guy said chengiz khan was father of baburs mother , ey you person who knows 0 about history , just look at chengiz hans times and baburs , did cengiz han live like 600 years.

 

[jbond197]

Unbelieavable , this guy said chengiz khan was father of baburs mother , ey you person who knows 0 about history , just look at chengiz hans times and baburs , did cengiz han live like 600 years.

Babur was a descendant of Chengez khan through his mom.. It's a well known fact. Don't know what twist you wanna give to the story..

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

no，timur was not a mongol by any means.He claims he is the descent of chengiz khan because it's a tradition that only mongols who is the descent of chengiz khan has the right to conquere the central asian turkic world.
He and his family are true turks，even though they all claim they came from the greatest conquerer Chengiz Khan.

Yes exactly like you said , i read many things about this , a professor who learnt chinese just to learn turkic history and knows 5-6 languages just to read sources in original language , and many other , he wanted to be like chengiz khan alot.

chinese people 4.27 -5.17 you can see he speaks chinese ( the turkish people on the program fascinated at chinese because its hard to learn ) infact this guy said he went to taiwan to learn original chinese - if you watch till like 6-7 minutes he talks abit chinese because they say example how do you say this and that

Timur was born in Transoxiana, in the City of Kesh (an area now better known as Shahrisabz, "the green city"), some 50 miles south of Samarkand in modern Uzbekistan, then part of the Chagatai Khanate. His father, Taraqai, was a small-scale landowner and belonged to the Barlas tribe. The Barlas was a Turko-Mongol tribe which was originally a Mongol tribe[20] and was Turkified[21] and/or became Turkic-speaking or intermingling with the Turkic peoples. According to Gérard Chaliand, Timur was a Muslim Turk[24] but he saw himself as Genghis Khan's heir.[24] Though not a Chinggisid, he clearly sought to evoke the legacy of Genghis Khan's conquests during his lifetime.

Timur had nothing to do with mongol he was fascinated by cengiz han and mongol so he said he was mongol as well.

 

[jbond197]

Look at this illustration of Timur and figure out yourself if he had mongoloid looks or not..

 

[INDIC]

so because you are embarrased you are ruled you will soon say they are indian aswell

Grandson of Babur, Akbar (Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar) married Rajput princess Jodhabai and their son Saleem later named Jehangir became next emperor, Jehanfir too married a Rajput princess, but he also married a Persian women Noor Jahan.

Noor Jehan was Shah Jehan step mother, Noor Jehan wanted him to marry to the daughter of her first husband "Laadli Begum" but Shah Jehan was in love with Noor Jehan's niece, Anjumad later named Mumtaz Mahal.

 

[Serpentine]

Sometime later,this Ottoman-Turk will claim that not only Turks ruled Iran,Arabs,Pakistanis,Indians,but also Japan,China,Russia,Europe,United Stated and south America.There has been some rumore that Turks even ruled the moon and Jupiter for 100 years.