Taiwan can respond to assassination of unarmed fisherman by the Philippines

[USAHawk785]

Ang Dakilang Ubud-na-Malaking Emperyo at Kahariang ng Pilipinas

 

[longyi]

Taiwan sends warships to the trouble area and will confiscate PI ships


ROCN Kang Ding (Lafayette) FFG

ROCN Chi Yang (Knox)Class FFG

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2013/05/13/2003562123

 

[Leonhart]

in case you don't know China and Taiwan are different country , if you angry for your fellow VN's fisherman , shouldn't you felt the same way for the Taiwanese fisherman in similar tragedy? Both Taiwan and Vietnam were the victims while Philippines and China were the offenders don't they?

That's what I've been wondering as well. Seems a lot of people here cannot differentiate between Taiwan and China. Pretty sad, considering Taiwan was the 2nd most industrialized nation in Asia after WWII (thanks in large part to Japan) and is currently one of the most charitable nations in Asia. To my knowledge, Taiwan donated the most out of any country to not only the 2008 Sichuan Earthquake in China, but also the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake in Japan. Considering how Taiwan and China are not on good terms, and also how small Taiwan is, this is pretty extraordinary. Taiwan also donated a huge amount in the immediate aftermath of Typhoon Pablo’s devastation in Mindanao, Philippines in 2011...including 15 automatic weather stations for enhanced weather forecasts. This is a tragedy that now, Philippines cannot show appreciation in return, but instead group Taiwan with the Chinese as if they are the villains.

 

[sEoulman556]

Wow, look at all these Taiwanese and Chinese advocating war with the Pinoys when it was clearly that Taiwanese fishing vessel's fault. Maybe you Taiwanese need to install GPS devices on your fishing vessels so you morons don't violate your fellow Asian's territorial waters. Omg, this just fcking reeks of incompetency.

 

[NiceGuy]

in case you don't know China and Taiwan are different country , if you angry for your fellow VN's fisherman , shouldn't you felt the same way for the Taiwanese fisherman in similar tragedy? Both Taiwan and Vietnam were the victims while Philippines and China were the offenders don't they?

Vietnam govt doesn't recognize TW is a country

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Vietnam govt doesn't recognize TW is a country

Nice boy, now your communist big brother China wanna teach the imperialist running dog a lesson, since these guys also harass your fishermen, thus you should not object against it.

 

[Juice]

Philippine government committed a war crime

1. The Taiwanese fishing boat did not ram a Philippine coast guard ship.

The evidence is as follows:

a. A small wooden fishing boat would have no effect on a large (and probably metallic) Philippine coast guard ship.

b. The Skipper of the Taiwanese fishing boat said he never tried to ram the much larger Philippine coast guard ship.

c. There isn't a single scratch on the bow of the Taiwanese fishing boat as seen in the photographs when it arrived in Taiwan.

Also, knowing that a small wooden ship will have no effect on a large metallic coast guard ship, you are not allowed to execute unarmed civilians at sea. You can arrest them, but not execute them. Execution of unarmed civilians is a war crime.

2. Taiwan has never had a dispute with Russia. It is irrelevant and a sad attempt at diversion from the Philippine government's war crime against a helpless elderly Taiwanese fisherman, who was 164 miles south of Taiwan and within Taiwan's 200-mile EEZ (ie. exclusive economic zone).

Ramming is a technique born of frustration....many examples of small boat ramming larger (look for films of Soviet patrol vessels ramming American frigates on exercise....Black sea in particular)

I fully support Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou and the KMT

1. Taiwan is on the verge of war against the Philippines. We Taiwanese stand united.

2. Taiwan has dispatched a La Fayette frigate to patrol the area where the Taiwanese fisherman was murdered by Philippine government coast guard terrorists, which is 164 miles south of Taiwan and within Taiwan's 200-mile EEZ (ie. exclusive economic zone).

3. Taiwan does not need American political support or military help to smash the Philippine war criminals. We Taiwanese are resolute and will take care of this problem ourselves.

An official waves to Taiwan naval Lafayette-class frigate (R) and Taiwan Coast Guard frigate as the vessels sail out of the port of Kaohsiung, southern Taiwan, in this handout photo from Taiwan Coast Guard, on Sunday. (Reuters)

One of Taiwan's Lafayette-class frigates has been dispatched to patrol the area where the unarmed Taiwanese fisherman was killed by Philippine government coast guard thugs.

Officers on board a Taiwanese Coast Guard vessel

Source: Taiwan beefs up protection for fishermen in wake of fatal shooting | Latest | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS

There will be no war....but good to see Tiawanese have a sense of patriotism. (already knew the Filipinos did, wasn't sure if Tiawanese feelings had been coopted by the mainland yet)

 

[Soryu]

in case you don't know China and Taiwan are different country , if you angry for your fellow VN's fisherman , shouldn't you felt the same way for the Taiwanese fisherman in similar tragedy? Both Taiwan and Vietnam were the victims while Philippines and China were the offenders don't they?

Like I saw, Niceguy never said anything like he glad to see old fishmen died or something like, that's tragedy for his family.

Question in here that he want (also me):
_ China action was not make a crime or anything serious to protest and country like Vietnam just want to make up situation and drag USA in SCS. So what's now!?

_ An inccident was happend and still wait a investigation (from Philippine), but both PRC and ROC so angry and want condemn Philippine, want apologize, want compensation ... and even a war (by hero warrior keybroad in here)

But in case of VN - China, China made up many excuse for their action: fire on Vietnamese vessel, killing Vietnamese fishing-men, cut off cable of Vietnam exploration ship ... because they considered Vietnam dare to step on their U-shape map, a map nobody recognized and so China can do anything she want ... lol.

 

[NiceGuy]

Nice boy, now your communist big brother China wanna teach the imperialist running dog a lesson, since these guys also harass your fishermen, thus you should not object against it.

we will enjoy coffee and watch ur coward and poor trained army make a nice comedy show in SCS(east sea)

Make sure that ur PLA won't pi$$ in their pants and run for their lives when facing with US-Phil's naval forces

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

we will enjoy coffee and watch ur coward and poor trained PLA make a nice comedy show in SCS(east sea)

Make sure that ur PLA won't **** in their pants and run for their lives when facing with US-Phil's naval forces

US won't risk the consequence of MAD for that sh!thole, and Philippines has no navy bro, but they can keep bullying your poor fishermen since your govt is too chicken to take this issue.

 

[Soryu]

US won't risk the consequence of MAD for that sh!thole, and Philippines has no navy bro, but they can keep bullying your poor fishermen since your govt is too chicken to take this issue.

So we will wait to see how you will press them in the corner and satisfy your chinese's angry ...

 

[Martian2]

Ramming is a technique born of frustration....many examples of small boat ramming larger (look for films of Soviet patrol vessels ramming American frigates on exercise....Black sea in particular)

Allegation of ramming is pure fiction

1. The claim of ramming was after-the-fact fabrication to justify the hour-long chase and brutal killing of the Taiwanese fisherman by the Philippine coast guard criminals.

2. The bow of the little Taiwanese boat showed not a single scratch. The paint is pristine.

3. A little wooden boat ramming a metallic coast guard boat will have no effect.

4. The skipper of the Taiwanese boat has stated he did not attempt to ram the Philippine coast guard ship.

5. The 52 large-caliber bullets fired by the Philippine coast guard criminals are not along the long bow-to-stern/longitudinal axis of the boat (which would be consistent with shooting a boat attempting to ram).

Instead, the shots perforated the little Taiwanese boat from the side. I've never heard a little wooden boat moving sideways to ram. Have you?

Thus, the ram excuse is total crap.

Finally, the Philippine government has a videotape of the crime. Let's see the massacre for ourselves. However, the Philippine government has made no indication of releasing the incriminating videotape.

 

[Juice]

Allegation of ramming is pure fiction

1. The claim of ramming was after-the-fact fabrication to justify the hour-long chase and brutal killing of the Taiwanese fisherman by the Philippine coast guard criminals.

2. The bow of the little Taiwanese boat showed not a single scratch. The paint is pristine.

3. A little wooden boat ramming a metallic coast guard boat will have no effect.

4. The skipper of the Taiwanese boat has stated he did not attempt to ram the Philippine coast guard ship.

5. The 52 large-caliber bullets fired by the Philippine coast guard criminals are not along the long bow-to-stern axis of the boat (which would be consistent with shooting a boat attempting to ram). Instead, the shots perforate the little Taiwanese boat from the side. I've never heard a little wooden boat moving sideways to ram. Have you?

Thus, the ram excuse is total crap.

there should be some evidence of ramming. Perhaps the shots were fired when the vessel turned towards the patrol boat? Still....a bit much on the force (easy to say since I was not in the field)

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So we will wait to see how you will press them in the corner and satisfy your chinese's angry ...

Pinoy is frustated that China keeps humiliated them in the first two rounds of confrontation, now they are unleashing their frustration on China's little brother Taiwan like their punching bag, it is China they are looking for troubles, now the big China is here, what they gonna do?

 

[Martian2]

there should be some evidence of ramming. Perhaps the shots were fired when the vessel turned towards the patrol boat? Still....a bit much on the force (easy to say since I was not in the field)

Give me a break. Now you're being silly and wasting my time.

The Taiwanese skipper of the boat said they were trying to run away from the hail of Philippine bullets for an hour. We see 52 large-caliber bullets sprayed all over the boat consistent with a long chase.

We know there was a long chase, because the Philippine coast guard thugs turned tail when the Taiwanese coast guard showed up.