T-73B compared to M1A2 Tusk

[C130]

Cost- T-72B3 ($2-$3 million)
Weight-T-72B3 (45t)
Maneuverability/Range- T-72B3 .
Armor Protection-M1A2
Armor Protection including laser warning and APS- T72-B3
Firepower
APFSDS- M1A2 (M829A4)
Multi Purpose Ammo- M1A2 (M830A1)
High Explosive- T-72B3 (30F26)
Guided Missile- T-72B3 (9M119 Svir)
Sensors & Targeting Systems- Tie


looks like the T-72B3 wins

T-72B3 6/10
M1A2 3/10
Tie 1/10

but then I ask you...poll

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Abrams..

But than again it would also depend on other factors.

For example -- Abrams would be a white elephant - for use in indo Pak theater..

Reasons;

Bridges,rail,infrastructure can't support a heavy tank.

Extensive canal/irrigation system of Pakistan.

Topography etc..

But one on one on neutral ground.. If chose Abrams over a tricked out T-72 any day!

Cost- T-72B3 ($2-$3 million)
Weight-T-72B3 (45t)
Maneuverability/Range- T-72B3 .
Armor Protection-M1A2
Armor Protection including laser warning and APS- T72-B3
Firepower
APFSDS- M1A2 (M829A4)
Multi Purpose Ammo- M1A2 (M830A1)
High Explosive- T-72B3 (30F26)
Guided Missile- T-72B3 (9M119 Svir)
Sensors & Targeting Systems- Tie


looks like the T-72B3 wins

T-72B3 6/10
M1A2 3/10
Tie 1/10

but then I ask you...poll

I doubt T-72B3 would cost 3 mil.

 

[C130]

Abrams..

But than again it would also depend on other factors.

For example -- Abrams would be a white elephant - for use in indo Pak theater..

Reasons;

Bridges,rail,infrastructure can't support a heavy tank.

Extensive canal/irrigation system of Pakistan.

Topography etc..

But one on one on neutral ground.. If chose Abrams over a tricked out T-72 any day!




I doubt T-72B3 would cost 3 mil.

I doubt T-72B3 would cost 3 mil


more or less?

 

[Khafee]

The poll should have included Leopard2 as well as the Leclerc.

 

[C130]

The poll should have included Leopard2 as well as the Leclerc.

not talking about the lepoard 2 or leclerc though

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I doubt T-72B3 would cost 3 mil


more or less?

T-72B3 is not a new tank -- but an upgrade.

Basically to its FCS & Sights .. And K5 ERA.

Mostly done to old T-72Bs by the Russians.

According to most sources it hardly costs 1-1.5 million.


It's pretty stupid to compare an old upgraded T-72 to a brand new Abrams.

At 4 million -- you can get MBT-2000 (export/watered down AK).

 

[C130]

T-72B3 is not a new tank -- but an upgrade.

Basically to its FCS & Sights .. And K5 ERA.

Mostly done to old T-72Bs by the Russians.

According to most sources it hardly costs 1-1.5 million.


It's pretty stupid to compare an old upgraded T-72 to a brand new Abrams.

I meant brand new build T-72B3

but a highly modernized T-72 isn't stupid to compare to an Abrams


both have their pros and cons.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I meant brand new build T-72B3

T-72s aren't in production anymore...

but a highly modernized T-72 isn't stupid to compare to an Abrams


both have their pros and cons.

It is... T-90 is the most "upgraded" variant of the T-72...

It would make sense if you compared tanks like T-90 or AKI to Abrams rather than a T-72.


P.S; A trained crew in a T-72 does have a chance against an Abrams (with a "less" trained crew).

 

[yugocrosrb95]

T-72B3 is not a new tank -- but an upgraded T-72B.

Basically to its FCS & Sights .. And K5 ERA.

Mostly done to old T-72B variants (old "stored" versions)...

According to most sources it costs hardly 1-1.5 million.

That is really cheap...!?!

 

[C130]

T-72s aren't in production anymore...


It is... T-90 is the most "upgraded" variant of the T-72...

It would make sense if you compared tanks like T-90 or AKI to Abrams rather than a T-72.


P.S; A trained crew in a T-72 does have a chance against an Abrams (with a "less" trained crew).

it really doesn't matter. I wanted to compare the greatest T-72 variant.

and I was going to add crew comfort which the M1A2 wins or any Western tank and the modern Chinese versions.

and crew training is the number 1 factor.

but as evident by the Sauds getting BTFO by the Houthis in their M1A1 albiet downgraded shows crew training and situational awareness is the most important thing.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

That is really cheap...!?!

That's for the upgrade -- I presume.

it really doesn't matter. I wanted to compare the greatest T-72 variant.

The greatest T-72 variant is the T-90 (which is an upgraded T-72).

and I was going to add crew comfort which the M1A2 wins or any Western tank and the modern Chinese versions.

AK is based on a Chinese tank.. But it is bigger and heavier than the T-90.

and crew training is the number 1 factor.

but as evident by the Sauds getting BTFO by the Houthis in their M1A1 albiet downgraded shows crew training and situational awareness is the most important thing.

True.

 

[Tipu7]

Are you comparing these two guys? Just have a look at their basic forms. Are they even worth comparing???

Every time T72 messed with Abraham, this was result. No matter what the variant, T72 is not a Hunter but a prey........ always

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

Unfair to compare M1A2 with T-72. T-72 is tank from the 1970's whereas M1A2 came to production in the 1990's. T-72 was never improved greatly whereas the Abrams went through a lot of it. It's basically a different tank.

Comparison should be between the T-72 and M1 tanks.

Besides tank armour can't offer protection against modern ATGMs or RPGs such as RPG-27 or RPG-29.

 

[GR!FF!N]

Comparing T-72 with M1A2??Seriously??M1A2 is like best tank for over 2 decades.T-72 came nearly 1 decade before M1A2 and weighs 2/3 of Abrams.Abrams will smash anything upto 4 km if given.But T-72 is poor man's MBT and has some tangible advantages over Abrams.

But I'd love to highlight that please don't bring Iraq war to advertise Abrams.Iraq had downgraded T-72s and not enough Armour piercing rounds.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

M-84 stands better chances than T-72...