Specifications of Pakistan Army’s Type-85UG Main Battle Tank

[Inception-06]

Tyres are loaded once either tanks are to be transported on trains....or if there is a need for tanks to cross roads, in that case, these tyres are laid down on roads on which tanks and APCs pass so as not to damage the road.

I thought to burn it and lay a smoke screen, like to pretend a destroyed or damaged tank. @PanzerKiel you like my Idea it’s from movie black Hack down ^^ sounds idiotic, but then you will find this empty banana wooden boxes on tank more idiotically, should I start to post the pictures ?

 

[Inception-06]

the rope on the 2nd pic of t85ug looks more like the towing rope , also car tires are just DIY defensive measures , have you seen the tires on a pakistani tank or in a pic of a non-pakistani tank

Here more ! I will not stop now !

 

[Meliodas]

Explain what concretely you mean !

To mee it seems that it's just change of name.

UG is a extensive upgrade of 85 IIM with a new engine , FCS , new sights & better electronics

I don't see any change in hp or hp/weight ratio also fcs looks same as in link I shared. Can you please share specific upgrades in these charecteristics that you shared.

 

[TheDebSahab]

How does it fare against a T-72?

 

[Inception-06]

How does it fare against a T-72?

Depends on operational availability, maintenance, Training, tactic and strategy, air Defence cover ......called Combined Arms is an approach to warfare which seeks to integrate different combat arms of a military to achieve mutually complementary effects (for example, using infantry and armor in an urban environment, where one supports the other, or both support each other).

 

[farooqbhai007]

To mee it seems that it's just change of name.
I don't see any change in hp or hp/weight ratio also fcs looks same as in link I shared. Can you please share specific upgrades in these charecteristics that you shared.

i had shared a specs poster of the upgraded T85UG a while back , the engine is of same hp but of a different type , i dont remember but i think they added a turbo chargers or something , also the sight & FCS is of Al-khalid that is put in place of basic Type 85II's fcs & sights

 

[iLION12345_1]

Type 85UG is an extensive modernization, apart from the tank being rebuilt it has Catherine TI, the original variant had no thermals at all, and the entire GCS and FCS from the Al-Khalid. It has a new auto-loader as well. The Type 85 can fire the BTA-4 APFSDS which is currently the most advanced projectile fielded by the PA (600mm of RHA at 0 deg or 220mm/68.5 deg at 2KM). The new FCS means it can also fire ATGMs.

The engine upgrade is a little vague to me. The type 85 originally used a 730HP engine, which was also put into the Al-Zarrar. But this upgrade apparently has a new engine. Maybe the upgrade is the dual turbocharger, the power remaining the same would mean the engine is either more efficient or produces more torque, which is what matters more in tanks than HP, either way, it’s a 730 HP engine. Also includes new radios/comms.

The protection remains the same however ERA can be mounted to the turret front and top as well as hull front. There are no mounting brackets on the hull for ERA because Chinese tanks use a different ERA mounting system where the entire ERA package is bolted on to a metal plate which is then put on to the tanks Hull. Which removes The need for the mounting points on the tank itself. The Chinese ZTZ-96, the Al-zarrar and the Original AK also used this system for mounting ERA. (however in newer AKs and AK-1 it was switched to the type where there’s mounts on the hull itself.)

This overall makes the Type 85UG much superior to the Al-Zarrar but with the new upgrades the UDs are getting, it will still be below them, especially in terms of protection.

 

[bhola record]

I thought to burn it and lay a smoke screen, like to pretend a destroyed or damaged tank. @PanzerKiel you like my Idea it’s from movie black Hack down ^^ sounds idiotic, but then you will find this empty banana wooden boxes on tank more idiotically, should I start to post the pictures ?

Can also be used as a signal in case of radio silence. Sun tzu level warfare.

 

[iLION12345_1]

To mee it seems that it's just change of name.
I don't see any change in hp or hp/weight ratio also fcs looks same as in link I shared. Can you please share specific upgrades in these charecteristics that you shared.

How does it fare against a T-72?

See post above.

As for comparing it to the T72, it depends on the variant, india has two variants currently in service. The T72M1 and the Combat improved Ajeya. The T72M1 is near obsolete at its current stage. Of the 1900ish T72s in Indian service. So far about 950-1000 have been modernized and it’s unclear Wether the rest will be modernized.

When compared to the base T72M1 this thing is far superior in basically every way, except maybe protection where if equipped with ERA it would be comparable in that field too. Mobility would be comparable.
Even Al-zarrar is better than those old T72s.

when compared to modernized ones, The T72 would have better protection, even if both tanks had ERA. The FCS/GCS would be slightly superior on Type 85 but The type 85UG would have a massive step up in firepower since india uses very outdated projectiles, they only started inducting 3BM42 “Mango” in 2019 and it will take a while before it comes standard. (Keep in mind that round is from the 80s…), That only has 460mm/0 deg, something Pakistani APFSDS had in early 2000s. Most Indian tanks still use even older ammo. However The mobility of the Modernized T72s would be superior due to 1000Hp engine.
At the end of the day it would come down to doctrine, usage, situation and combined warfare strategy. But one on one these things can hold their own against whatever they’d be facing.

 

[Xtreme_2000]

Specifications of Pakistan Army’s Type-85UG Main Battle Tank


By Admin PSF
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April 4, 2021



Specifications of Pakistan Army’s Type-85UG Main Battle Tank


The Type-85 is a medium role main battle tank based on the Type-80 chassis which itself was China’s attempt in creating a new MBT from scratch instead of copying Russian designs. It is a second generation MBT developed in 1980s by 617 factory with 201 institute of China. Out of the original Type-80, four new variants were developed named the Type-85 H, Type-85M and later Type 85-IIAP and Type 85-III which were for Pakistan (Type 85-III had a 1000hp engine but failed Pakistan army evaluations so was rejected). Soon after in around 1991 Pakistan got technology transfer and started producing the Type 85-IIAP which was first revealed in 1993 on the parade ground. A total of around 300 units of Type-85IIAP variant tanks were produced and put into service due to immediate need. By early 2020 a new variant the Type-85UG was introduced which are upgraded Type 85-IIAP tanks, these have been taking part in many recent Pakistan army field exercises.


Characteristics

Type-85 is a 41.5-ton tank powered by its 730HP liquid cooled diesel engine with a 17.8HP/ton power to weight ratio. It has a cruising range of 350Km with maximum speed of 57Km/HR. It is manned by a crew of three, the Driver, Gunner and Commander.


Protection

Armor Protection wise the Type-85UG features composite armor and hardened steel. Armor thickness against KE of the turret without ERA:

a: Turret front with composite armor: 372mm
b: Turret front of attached at the horizontal angle at 30°:430mm.
c: Turret side front: 80mm
d: Turret rear: 60mm
e: Turret top: 30mm
f: Turret rear Bussell: 20mm

ERA can be installed for further protection. Also, HHS (high hardened steel) plates can be put on for reinforced armor protection. NBC protection is also present along with the fire extinguisher and explosion suppression system. Thermal smoke screen is also installed, these obscurant smokes are effectively opaque in the Infrared part of the electromagnetic spectrum, hiding movement to prevent detection by infrared sensor, block laser beams and rangefinders.

Type-85UG Main Battle Tank

Firepower

As for the tank’s armament, it has a 125mm smoothbore main gun with an autoloader. Being a smoothbore, it can fire a large variety of rounds, APFSD, HEAT, etc. Important notes of its ammunition inventory:

a: Type-85UG can fire and indigenous depleted uranium round. (NAIZA-DU)
b: Sabot FSDS-T rounds are compatible with Type-85UG gun giving it a heavier punch.
c: Type-85UG can fire Kombat ATGM which has penetration power up to 950mm RHA at 5000m.

That aside the tank has one Co-axial 7.62mm MG and an upper turret mounted 12.7mm AA MG.


Autoloader

The auto loader is interesting as the original Type-85 did not use them; within the UG standard upgrade it features the procured solid-state autoloader from CARE. This solid-state autoloader eliminates the need of relay and utilizes latest electronic devices to have complete command and control. The memory device unit of autoloader system has push buttons which feed the ammo (APFSD, HE, HEAT) into memory and along with Auto panel board controls unloading, change over and semi-auto mode thus providing a more reliable system.


General features of autoloader

a: Operating voltage: 22-27 volts.
b: Carousel magazine capacity: 22×22(projectile × case).
c: Total ammo:40 rounds.
d: Loading speed:6-8 rounds per minute.

As for the Fire control system the Type-85UG features an FCS-212 image stabilized fire control system with LRF ballistic computer and auto sensor allowing day and night operations. Additionally, the Type-85UG features a Nd YAG laser range finder with range of 200m-5000m.

Type-85UG Main Battle Tank


Sights and optics


a: The commander is provided with a TI sight or second generation IIT sight. There are total 5 commander vision blocks i.e. 2 in the cupola, 2 in cupola flappers and 1 spare.
b: Commander periscope through which day and night observations can be done.
c: Gunner vision blocks, total 1 fitted in gunner cupola.
d: Driver vision blocks: Two are fitted.

The UG standard gradation features a more latest TI sight; Catherine TI, developed by Thales and integration was done by GIDS a Pakistani firm. It is fitted in front of the gunner’s seat with turret roof enabling the gunner to fire in every environment.


Role within Pakistan Army

Currently, the Type-85UG holds an important role in Pakistan army’s armored warfare strategy. Originally the Type-85IIAP variant was quickly inducted by Pakistan army to counter T-72s of the Indian army during the crisis of Operation Brasstacks conducted in desert of Rajasthan.

By now many of India’s T-72s have undergone upgrades hence it was important that Pakistan also upgrades the Type-85s of which the UG variant is the end product. The Type-85UGs are deployed in plain and dessert terrain on the eastern front strengthening the independent armored divisions and pivot corps of PA (they are meant to be used against India’s upgraded T-72 alongside Al-Zarrar MBT). While not strong in armor protection department it does carry a massive punch with its 125mm smoothbore gun and targeting systems giving it more than enough firepower to knockout enemy tanks. In the end its effectiveness will depend upon how well they are used in combined arms warfare.

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The Type-85 is a medium role main battle tank based on the Type-80 chassis which itself was China’s attempt in creating a new MBT from scratch instead of copying Russian designs. It is a second generation MBT developed in 1980s by 617 factory with 201 institute of China. Out of the original...

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Here's a video of it

 

[emotionless_teenage]

How does it fare against a T-72?

wasn't a South Sudan T-72 tank being knocked out by Sudanese Al-Bashir (locally assembled Type-85) tank?