T-129 Atak & Turkish Attack Helicopter Programs

[MMM-E]

Turkiye has great fire power to turn enemy Armies into scrap of metal


Even big powers like France , The UK , Germany , Italy , India , Russia , S.Korea , Japan only can dream about it



nowhere to hide and nowhere to run for the enemy Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems

-- T-129 Attack Helicopter
-- T-929 Attack Helicopter
-- TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs
-- Laser guided MLRS ( 30 km TRLG-122 and 70 km TRLG-230 )
-- Kamikaze Drones ( ALPAGUT , DELI , AZAB , SIMSEK and KARGI-E/O )


-- 83 T-129 Attack Helicopters armed with 16 km UMTAS Missile
( IIR or LASER seeker and RF Datalink )

T-929 Attack Helicopter to carry 25-40 km UMTAS-GM Missile
( IR + CCD Camera and RF Datalink )

American AH-64 Attack Helicopter and M-9 UCAV armed with HELLFIRE Missile

HELLFIRE Missile
Range : 12 km
Weight : 49 kg
Warhead : 9 kg
Guidance : Semi-active laser homing and Millimeter-wave radar seeker


On the other hand Turkish TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs armed with superior Missiles/guided Muntions

MAM-L
Range : 15 km
Weight : 22 kg
Warhead : 10 kg
Guidance : laser seeker

MAM-T
Range : 34 km
Weight : 94 kg
Warhead : 70 kg
Guidance : laser seeker

KUZGUN-TJ
Range : 180+ km
Weight : 85 kg
Warhead : 14 kg
Guidance : GPS-INS , IIR seeker

IHA-230
Range : 150 km
Weight : 225 kg
Warhead : 42 kg
Guidance : laser seeker

TOLUN-IIR
Range : 80 km
Weight : 120 kg
Guidance : GPS-INS , IIR seeker

 

[BON PLAN]

Even big powers like France , The UK , Germany , Italy , India , Russia , S.Korea , Japan only can dream about it

In a couple of days you will be auto convinced tha Turkey can be in war with all and win

Are you mad Bro? Erdogan's propaganda made your brain as cottage cheese.


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[MMM-E]

single answer :
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Keep dreaming with ASMPA missile as like Russian KINZHAL
Russia sucks in Ukraine
You dont have missiles and UCAVs to hit enemy Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , Air Defense Systems

only TIGER Attack Hellicopter armed with 8-12 km Missile ... nothing else


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IHA-230 supersonic Missile ( range of 150 km and speed of mach 3 )

btw since 2019 , Turkiye won everywhere ( Afrin-Syria , Idlib-Syria , Libya , Karabakh , Eastern Mediterranean ) against multi-national alliance including France

 

[Hold the door]

According to the latest news, Turkey will not extend the license rights of T-129. T-129's license will expire in 2028.

T-129 phase-3 will be canceled and the armed version of T-625 Gökbey, T-629, will be produced with TEI TS1400.

The t-925 and t-929 projects will also be postponed for a long time because no engines will come from Ukraine.

 

[xbat]

Turkey has about 100 attack helo in its inventory, largest in the whole region except russia, i think no need to hurry. export is another case

 

[merzifonlu]

The t-925 and t-929 projects will also be postponed for a long time because no engines will come from Ukraine.

Not T-925. T-925 is ongoing.

 

[Hold the door]

Not T-925. T-925 is ongoing.

with which engine?

 

[merzifonlu]

with which engine?

There are 14 engines previously purchased from Ukraine. Using them, urgently needed helicopters will be produced for the General Directorate of Forestry and the TCG Anadolu LPD.

If production is to continue after they are produced and delivered, there are two ways.

1- To develop the domestic engine and put it into mass production as soon as possible.

Or 2- To improve relations with Western countries and supply engines from them.

 

[Hold the door]

1- To develop the domestic engine and put it into mass production as soon as possible.

Or 2- To improve relations with Western countries and supply engines from them.

You know that both will not happen.

Western countries never sell engines to us.

If the project starts today, it will take at least 10 years to make the TS3000. There is not even a project that has started yet. I don't think TS3000 will be made even in 2040.

 

[merzifonlu]

If the project starts today, it will take at least 10 years to make the TS3000. There is not even a project that has started yet. I don't think TS3000 will be made even in 2040.

Considering that it will be derived from the core of the TF-6000 turbofan engine, the TS-3000 turboshaft engine can complete ground tests in 5-6 years. This is the technical side of things.

However, since the TF-35000 turbofan engine is urgent and a priority, TEI does not have the human resources to spare for the TS-3000 turboshaft engine. Likewise, Turkey does not have the money to spare for the development of that engine.

In my opinion also, the TS-3000 turboshaft engine project cannot be started before 10 years. (2034+6=2040, Yes, you are right!)

 

[Hold the door]

Considering that it will be derived from the core of the TF-6000 turbofan engine, the TS-3000 turboshaft engine can complete ground tests in 5-6 years. This is the technical side of things.

However, since the TF-35000 turbofan engine is urgent and a priority, TEI does not have the human resources to spare for the TS-3000 turboshaft engine. Likewise, Turkey does not have the money to spare for the development of that engine.

In my opinion also, the TS-3000 turboshaft engine project cannot be started before 10 years. (2034+6=2040, Yes, you are right!)

As a result, the T925 and T929 projects will not go beyond prototypes.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

As a result, the T925 and T929 projects will not go beyond prototypes.

This is f’d up my two favo projects are going down the drain.

 

[Falcon26]

As a result, the T925 and T929 projects will not go beyond prototypes.

Isn’t the T929 slated to use Ukrainian TV3-117 engines?

 

[xbat]

Isn’t the T929 slated to use Ukrainian TV3-117 engines?

yes but, ukraine factories were destroyed by Russia. so practically Turkey cant get engines from ukraine. there are 2 possibilities
1-if ukraine agrees to give us to blue prints, Turkey can produce them without foreign input, not sure how much real
2-Turkey may start to design 3000 hp turboshaft asap. i am not pessimistic like the ones above. Our main engine project is KAAN, no doubt. but there are 300 engineers working on that, TF35000 conceptual work is done and they started to detailed design. we will see TEI TF35000 within 2 years . so our design engineers will be free in 2025 or earlier. They can start work at that time. within 7 years TEI can complete the helicopter engine , we have some ukrainian engines and we can complete tests with them when our engine is ready we can start serial production like we do with GOKBEY .

 

[LegionnairE]

1-if ukraine agrees to give us to blue prints, Turkey can produce them without foreign input, not sure how much real

That's not how it works, you can't produce an engine just because you have a bunch of .dxf files lol

my guess is that we'll try to use the T700 engines, it's the only logical choice really.