Syrian shows off its MiG-29 (Russia's counterpart of F-18)

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

This technical comparison means nothing in war. American tech is far superior and its has proved several times. The Russian BVRs dont even go as far as they are rated to be.

Superior tech? So superior they cannot even save their own people from a crappy virus. Superior my asss.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Superior tech? So superior they cannot even save their own people from a crappy virus. Superior my asss.

don't link to corona virus and defense tech, tell me how many times Mig-29-F-18 were in the any kind fight and Mig-29 wins against F-18
YES YOUR ASSS ARE MORE SMATER THEN F-18 BECAUSE ITS BURST BY AMRAAM FROM F-18

 

[Prince Kassad]

You have no idea what you are talking about..
J-17 is a light weight fighter.. go read a bit before saying non sense here..Okay..

Atleast read the full sense. Jf 17 is too heavy an aircraft from the middle cause it not to be so maneuverable

 

[The SC]

Atleast read the full sense. Jf 17 is too heavy an aircraft from the middle cause it not to be so maneuverable

It is very close to the F-16 in manoeuvrability.. So go figure..

 

[Prince Kassad]

For which there was no proof unfortunately and a lie Indians came up with to hide the spanking they got by the hands of PAF.



I think this was demonstrated on Feb 27 as the JF17's maintained a consistent lock on Indian Mirage 2000's and forced them to exit the area maintaining sector dominance for PAF.

The really what happened this what happened
The PAF's North & South Axes were decoys, the Central axis was the main strike thrust - with F-16s using 1000 lbs LGBs, JF-17 the REKs and the Mir III/V the H2/ H4 SOW on 16 Corps targets. The PAF did not cross the LC anywhere.
The JF-17 vs Mirage 2000 engagement took place North of J&K as the JF-17s tried to 'push' the M2000s in a 'Red on Red'. The JF-17's NRIET KLJ-7 PD radar did not do well against the M2000s. The JF-17s main job was to keep the M2000s tied up and not move south.
A pair of M21 Bison was scrambled towards the north edge of the Central axis. Another pair was scrambled south west. Abhinandan was part of the SW vector.
The IAF did not have any AWACS on station, the PAF had a Saab 2000 ERIEYE 100 km at 30,000 feet, which controlled the battlespace out to 150 Km+ inside India, guiding the HiTech F-16s positioning for Ambushing IAF jets in a designated kill zone in south J&K.
In central Axis, the F-16s climbed to 40,000 feet and went supersonic. The JF-17s and Mir III/Vs released their payloads out of range due the threat of the M2000s northeast of them, whom the JF-17s had not checked effectively
The PAF carried out Comm jamming, which was effective in places. With no AWACS the IACCS's vectored 2 Su-30MKIs towards Poonch Rajouri. The PAF communication intercepted on the ERIEYE showed that the PAF was varying of the upgraded M2000s moving south.
There were 2x PAF 4 aircraft F-16 formations, one at 40,000 feet and the other undetected at 10-15,000 feet, approaching Nowshera. The plan was to fire the first volley of AMRAAMS by the 4 F-16s at 40,000 feet, targeting the approaching Su-30MKIs
As the Su-30MKIs would engage in defensive manoeuvring, the second formation of 4 x F-16s at 15,000 feet (which had just finished an LGB run), would target the Su-30MKIs with a second volley of AMRAAMs
The Su-30MKIs picked up the higher pair of F-16s at 35-40,000 feet and anticipated the launch in a 'Red on Red', also cautioned by the GC The Su-30s cranked to reduce their forward travel and being in a position to outrun the AMRAAM's kinematics.
The Su-30MKI's did not get a launch command on their own R27 and RVV-AE AAMs due to the differential in the snap up the launch, with the F-16s going cold after launching their AMRAAMs
The timely cranking and the chaff helped the Su-30MKIs outmaneuver the AMRAAMs. 5 AIM-120C-5 s were fired on the Sukhois with no-hit...
Meanwhile, Abhinandan and his No 2 closed into the lower pair of F-16s abeam Nowshera, who were climbing to 25,000 feet to target the Sukhois in a flanking move
It was a 'red on red' for Abhinandan as he was picked up, but pressed on his attack after manually locking his R-73 on an F-16. He fired and turned back. One F-16 was hit and went down. Abhi was hit by an AMRAAM fired by a F-16, ejecting successfully
Three chutes were reported in the area, with widespread reporting by ISPR and Pal handles that they had three pilots in custody. A parachute with Indian colors was seen coming down. For info, the C-9 chute on the F-16 seat has white, orange and green colours
The PAF surprised the IAF by launching AAMs from inside Azad Kashmir. The AMRAAM effectively outranged the IAF AAMs, which did not get launch commands. Keeping the M2000s away from the F-16s was a priority for the PAF.
Abhinandan's act of engaging the lower pair of F-16s disrupted their plan to shoot down an IAF Sukhoi. Abhi scored the first F-16 kill by a Mig-21.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Atleast read the full sense. Jf 17 is too heavy an aircraft from the middle cause it not to be so maneuverable

ITSA MORE MANEUVERABLE THEN ANY OTHER JETS IN PAF EXCEPT F-16, AND HOW DO YOU ASSUME THAT JFT HEAVY AND WHY???

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

don't link to corona virus and defense tech, tell me how many times Mig-29-F-18 were in the any kind fight and Mig-29 wins against F-18
YES YOUR ASSS ARE MORE SMATER THEN F-18 BECAUSE ITS BURST BY AMRAAM FROM F-18

So? And no F-18 ever fought a Russian MiG-29.

 

[Ultima Thule]

The really what happened this what happened
The PAF's North & South Axes were decoys, the Central axis was the main strike thrust - with F-16s using 1000 lbs LGBs, JF-17 the REKs and the Mir III/V the H2/ H4 SOW on 16 Corps targets. The PAF did not cross the LC anywhere.
The JF-17 vs Mirage 2000 engagement took place North of J&K as the JF-17s tried to 'push' the M2000s in a 'Red on Red'. The JF-17's NRIET KLJ-7 PD radar did not do well against the M2000s. The JF-17s main job was to keep the M2000s tied up and not move south.
A pair of M21 Bison was scrambled towards the north edge of the Central axis. Another pair was scrambled south west. Abhinandan was part of the SW vector.
The IAF did not have any AWACS on station, the PAF had a Saab 2000 ERIEYE 100 km at 30,000 feet, which controlled the battlespace out to 150 Km+ inside India, guiding the HiTech F-16s positioning for Ambushing IAF jets in a designated kill zone in south J&K.
In central Axis, the F-16s climbed to 40,000 feet and went supersonic. The JF-17s and Mir III/Vs released their payloads out of range due the threat of the M2000s northeast of them, whom the JF-17s had not checked effectively
The PAF carried out Comm jamming, which was effective in places. With no AWACS the IACCS's vectored 2 Su-30MKIs towards Poonch Rajouri. The PAF communication intercepted on the ERIEYE showed that the PAF was varying of the upgraded M2000s moving south.
There were 2x PAF 4 aircraft F-16 formations, one at 40,000 feet and the other undetected at 10-15,000 feet, approaching Nowshera. The plan was to fire the first volley of AMRAAMS by the 4 F-16s at 40,000 feet, targeting the approaching Su-30MKIs
As the Su-30MKIs would engage in defensive manoeuvring, the second formation of 4 x F-16s at 15,000 feet (which had just finished an LGB run), would target the Su-30MKIs with a second volley of AMRAAMs
The Su-30MKIs picked up the higher pair of F-16s at 35-40,000 feet and anticipated the launch in a 'Red on Red', also cautioned by the GC The Su-30s cranked to reduce their forward travel and being in a position to outrun the AMRAAM's kinematics.
The Su-30MKI's did not get a launch command on their own R27 and RVV-AE AAMs due to the differential in the snap up the launch, with the F-16s going cold after launching their AMRAAMs
The timely cranking and the chaff helped the Su-30MKIs outmaneuver the AMRAAMs. 5 AIM-120C-5 s were fired on the Sukhois with no-hit...
Meanwhile, Abhinandan and his No 2 closed into the lower pair of F-16s abeam Nowshera, who were climbing to 25,000 feet to target the Sukhois in a flanking move
It was a 'red on red' for Abhinandan as he was picked up, but pressed on his attack after manually locking his R-73 on an F-16. He fired and turned back. One F-16 was hit and went down. Abhi was hit by an AMRAAM fired by a F-16, ejecting successfully
Three chutes were reported in the area, with widespread reporting by ISPR and Pal handles that they had three pilots in custody. A parachute with Indian colors was seen coming down. For info, the C-9 chute on the F-16 seat has white, orange and green colours
The PAF surprised the IAF by launching AAMs from inside Azad Kashmir. The AMRAAM effectively outranged the IAF AAMs, which did not get launch commands. Keeping the M2000s away from the F-16s was a priority for the PAF.
Abhinandan's act of engaging the lower pair of F-16s disrupted their plan to shoot down an IAF Sukhoi. Abhi scored the first F-16 kill by a Mig-21.

GOOD THIS INDIAN VERSION OF STORY WE BELIEVE ON DEGISPR PRESS CONFERENCE THIS DAY WE FIRED 2 AMRAAM AND BOTH AMRAAM HIT THEIR TARGET, SO FCUK OFF YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORIES

So? And no F-18 ever fought a Russian MiG-29.

YES THEY FIGHT IN FIRST GULF WAR AND PROVE SUPERIOR

 

[Prince Kassad]

It is very close to the F-16 in manoeuvrability.. So go figure..

The F16 should be aerodynamically superior, it has a monster of a jet engine (JF-17 uses the RD33 with around 18k-19k lbs thrust in AB compared to the 28-29k lbs in AB for the F16)

Can you open a new thread on these topics?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

YES THEY FIGHT IN FIRST GULF WAR AND PROVE SUPERIOR

Not 1 on 1 fight. Most of Iraqi airfields bombed by Tomahawks prior to landing.

 

[Ultima Thule]

The F16 should be aerodynamically superior, it has a monster of a jet engine (JF-17 uses the RD33 with around 18k-19k lbs thrust in AB compared to the 28-29k lbs in AB for the F16)

Can you open a new thread on these topics?

F-16 is medium and JFT is light, you can't fit high thrust engine on light weight

Not 1 on 1 fight. Most of Iraqi airfields bombed by Tomahawks prior to landing.

if you know nothing then shut the fcuk up there were few 1 on 1 fight in gulf war, Russian always weak in avionics and in engine department as compare to west/USA

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

F-16 is medium and JFT is light, you can't fit high thrust engine on light weight


if you know nothing then shut the fcuk up there were few 1 on 1 fight in gulf war, Russian always weak in avionics and in engine department as compare to west/USA

F-16 is not medium weight. Both are single engine.

if you know nothing then shut the fcuk up there were few 1 on 1 fight in gulf war, Russian always weak in avionics and in engine department as compare to west/USA

If US so good in tech why US cannot save its own people from getting slaughtered by virus? Seems US tech is not that good.

 

[Ultima Thule]

F-16 is not medium weight. Both are single engine.

oh my god , read the history kid then bark here F-16 started as light weight jet but evolved into medium weight due requirement by USAF, max weight of F-16 is 40,000+ lbs ( 19,000 kg) and whereas JFT max weight is under 30,000 lbs (under 13,000 KG) and you're no body to say F-16 is not medium weight most defense site say F-16 is a medium weight jet, i believes on these respected sites not on you

If US so good in tech why US cannot save its own people from getting slaughtered by virus? Seems US tech is not that good.

whaty the fcuk what defense tech do to combat the virus what a retard your, may be you become mad due to COVID19 infection

 

[striver44]

F16 could easily down mig 29 anytime, everytime.

 

[The SC]

The F16 should be aerodynamically superior, it has a monster of a jet engine (JF-17 uses the RD33 with around 18k-19k lbs thrust in AB compared to the 28-29k lbs in AB for the F16)

Can you open a new thread on these topics?

The F-16 is a medium weight fighter jet while the JF-17 is a light weight Fighter jet..Conclude something from this.. about the engine and the weight..