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Arabs annexed Persia back in the 600s without much difficulty. They could have done it again in the 1980s. Had they continued for 10 more years, they could have done so.

LOL.

And why should Iraq have done that? If all Arab states ganged up on Iran with Iraq, Iran would have fallen relatively easily indeed (due to huge disproportion in population, economic power, resources). Same situation today (even more so). However for what reason exactly?

Saddam was only interested in the Arab-inabhited Al-Ahwaz/Khuzestan were all Iran's oil and gas is (almost) located. Rest was of no strategic value. Deserts and mountains?

Ironically Iranian Arabs (Shia Islamists in particular) were the first line of defense for Iran. Despite this they face visible discrimination and despite living in the richest part of Iran, basic services are lacking due to the trashy Mullah regime.


Southwest Iran is the hottest region in the world during the summer.





Oh common:
مرکز پژوهش‌های مجلس طی گزارشی اذعان کرده که ۷۰درصد زنان جامعه به حجاب شرعی اعتقاد ندارند و تلقی عمومی از حجاب نیز جنبه عرفی دارد.

http://abanpress.ir/social/19510/1397/05/07

About Saoshyant there are different interpretations and you should be critical of young avestan texts, let alone stuff added to zoroastrianism during the sassanids or even after Islam, which has 1700-2700 years distance from original zoroastrianism!

Well I think it's too late to talk about ideologies at this critical moment in Iran. Iran is more important at the moment. If you want to divide the nation, you can talk about real islam or any other ideology (real communism) etc. Just be Iranian first then anything else, whatever that is. A radical change is needed, but we're saying this at least in the last 20 years. No one listened, people were opressed, critics were neglected and even worse labled as "anti revolution/anti islam".

Now that the country is boiling from inside the turban wearing grandfathers come with baby steps: reporting about hijab, saying musavi and karoubi will be freed, saying that they arrested corrupt people (still no names!).

NO BABY STEPS/cosmetic changes will change nothing, it's too late. Either take extreme/radical steps or bring the country to risk of collapsing, whatever follows only God knows.

I told everyone here the main problem is the guardian council and banning of candidates based on non-islamist ideology and disconnections with the ruling clerical elite and the old revolutionaries. If you don't allow capable people to enter the parliament then only incapable people will enter! and you see the results. If you don't allow free press to act as watchdog against thieves and corruption you will see the results. If you don't allow the judiciary be independent from Islamists, you see them keeping their hands of corrupt friends and then again you see the results.

IMF (islamist forum) banned me, even here islamist oriented moderators could not tolerate this information.

Are you a Zoroastrian? Maybe us Semitic pagans and Zoroastrians should form some kind of cooperation council.
 
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Are you a Zoroastrian? Maybe us Semitic pagans and Zoroastrians should form some kind of cooperation council.
Lol :lol:, I'm not a Zoroastrian (never converted to zoroastrianism), but as a culture and binding factor I would like to see Zoroastrianims having a (minor) role (minus bullshit/innovation/corruptions/rituals added to it 1000 to +/- 2700 years after its foundation which is the period of Gathas hymns).

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See for example the armenian pagans:

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Lol :lol:, I'm not a Zoroastrian (never converted to zoroastrianism), but as a culture and binding factor I would like to see Zoroastrianims having a (minor) role (minus bullshit/innovation/corruptions/rituals added to it 1000 to +/- 2700 years after its foundation which is the period of Gathas hymns).

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See for example the armenian pagans:

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I was actually joking about the "pagan thing" but indeed those ancient pagan religions have actually influenced the Abrahamic religions a lot (in the same of pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions) that were followed by ancient Arabia, Mesopotamia, Sham, Egypt and elsewhere.

I read that paganism is especially strong in Caucasus due to ethnic and linguistic diversity and due to their strong connection with nature so it does not surprise me seeing such Armenians although most are quite big believers in Christianity.

I once met a pagan Armenian who worshipped nature first and foremost. I never asked about the details but he wanted me to buy some herbs that he had imported from Armenia from mountain herders haha. Funny guy.











Historically interesting for sure.
 
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Saddam should have actually continued the war in 1988, at the end of the war Iraq wielded a very large force in number of combat aircraft, helicopters and tanks whilst Iran's military was depleted. He could have advanced on Khuzestan but failed policies once again. The objective is to at least capture what can be captured to use it for bargaining if anything, instead he only retook Al Faw peninsula and signed the cease fire. It was a wrong war in the first place evoked out of IRI's vision but when you wield the upper hand why sign the ceasefire whilst you're at it, Khomeini signed the ceasefire in 1988 after Iraq retook Al Faw and captured a town 30KM in Iranian territory as he realized he would not last this time. BIG MISTAKE OF SADDAM once again.
 
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I was actually joking about the "pagan thing" but indeed those ancient pagan religions have actually influenced the Abrahamic religions a lot (in the same of pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions) that were followed by ancient Arabia, Mesopotamia, Sham, Egypt and elsewhere.

I read that paganism is especially strong in Caucasus due to ethnic and linguistic diversity and due to their strong connection with nature so it does not surprise me seeing such Armenians although most are quite big believers in Christianity.

I once met a pagan Armenian who worshipped nature first and foremost. I never asked about the details but he wanted me to buy some herbs that he had imported from Armenia from mountain herders haha. Funny guy.











Historically interesting for sure.
Yes, historically beautiful.
Interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pre-Islamic_Arabian_deities
 
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Actually the oldest recorded religions are pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic_religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mesopotamian_deities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_deities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Canaanite_religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

Names of some Gods.
The Elamites (Southwestern Iran) were also an interesting civilization. Most theories claim them to be Dravidian speaking but I highly doubt that personally.

Their religion I have read little about but seems to have been unique also.

The Elamites practised polytheism. Knowledge about their religion is scant, but, according to Cambridge Ancient History, at one time they had a pantheon headed by the goddess Kiririsha/Pinikir.[28] Other deities included In-shushinak and Jabru, lord of the underworld. According to Cambridge Ancient History, "this predominance of a supreme goddess is probably a reflexion from the practice of matriarchy which at all times characterized Elamite civilization to a greater or lesser degree."[28]


Suggested relations to other language families

A minority of scholars have proposed that the Elamite language could be related to the Munda Language of India, some to Mon–Khmer of Cambodia and some to the Dravidian,[29] in contrast to the majority who denote it as a language isolate.[30] David McAlpine believes Elamite may be related to the living Dravidian languages. This hypothesis is considered under the rubric of Elamo-Dravidian languages.
Honestly speaking, I am not a "religion man" (no scholar or some hardcore religious person, rather the opposite). Mostly interested in the historical aspect of past religions.

The region needs more acceptance of different religions, ideologies and practices rather than a monotone culture/dominance of a few. Let peaceful minorities and even pagans do what they want to do peacefully. Better than following some Scientology nonsense or some evangelistic nonsense made in Texas or Utah.

Let us encourage love for nature and earth instead of wastefulness.
 
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Saddam should have actually continued the war in 1988, at the end of the war Iraq wielded a very large force in number of combat aircraft, helicopters and tanks whilst Iran's military was depleted. He could have advanced on Khuzestan but failed policies once again. The objective is to at least capture what can be captured to use it for bargaining if anything, instead he only retook Al Faw peninsula and signed the cease fire. It was a wrong war in the first place evoked out of IRI's vision but when you wield the upper hand why sign the ceasefire whilst you're at it, Khomeini signed the ceasefire in 1988 after Iraq retook Al Faw and captured a town 30KM in Iranian territory as he realized he would not last this time. BIG MISTAKE OF SADDAM once again.
Well it was and still is a ceasefire, it can be restarted any moment if Iraq wants it...
 
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Well it was and still is a ceasefire, it can be restarted any moment if Iraq wants it...

I don't think that would be needed since now the Mullah lovers in Iran are free to visit Karbala for their satanic rituals and Iraq has a Kurdish problem this time
 
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@Shapur Zol Aktaf

Just like people in Iran followed pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions in Iran, prior to Zoroastrianism, people in Arabia also followed Zoroastrianism in parts of Eastern Arabia and Najd. In particular kingdoms ruled by the Banu Tamim dynasty/clan/tribe.

I wonder what the oldest religion looked like? I don't know anything about pre-Islamic Eastern Africa/Horn of Africa religions but a secret might lie there or among the Khoisan people that apparently all people can trace their maternal lineages to.

I once saw an interesting documentary about some British anthropologist traveling to Africa and there he met some African elders/shaman who told him about the story of human migrations that they have been told from generation to generation. Surprisingly it sounded similar to the supposed history of human migration themselves.

The world is a strange place. Let alone the universe.
 
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I don't think that would be needed since now the Mullah lovers in Iran are free to visit Karbala for their satanic rituals and Iraq has a Kurdish problem this time
Majority of Iraqis believe in those rituals.

And what is your opinion about this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Khuzestan_insurgency

@Shapur Zol Aktaf

Just like people in Iran followed pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions in Iran, prior to Zoroastrianism, people in Arabia also followed Zoroastrianism in parts of Eastern Arabia and Najd. In particular kingdoms ruled by the Banu Tamim dynasty/clan/tribe.

I wonder what the oldest religion looked like? I don't know anything about pre-Islamic Eastern Africa/Horn of Africa religions but a secret might lie there or among the Khoisan people that apparently all people can trace their maternal lineages to.

I once saw an interesting documentary about some British anthropologist traveling to Africa and there he met some African elders/shaman who told him about the story of human migrations that they have been told from generation to generation. Surprisingly it sounded similar to the supposed history of human migration themselves.

The world is a strange place. Let alone the universe.
It depends what we consider as religion. There are sings of religions from Paleolithic time!
 
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Bullshit! Persia lost to the Arabs in the 600's because of the conflict and instability within the Persian and Parthian nobility. It was an unfortunate situation.

Saddam tried for 9 years to defeat Iran, he couldn't advance further than 50km's into Iran, despite using chemical warfare and all the weapons supplied by the West and the USSR and China. You know fukk all about the Iran Iraq war.

Change your avatar to the old fat illegal Chinese migrant one, where you sitting in the homeless shelter eating out the warm meal provided by the Shriner's.

Arabs annexed Persia back in the 600s without much difficulty. They could have done it again in the 1980s. Had they continued for 10 more years, they could have done so.
 
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So at least 8 million Kurds in Iran.

In Syria there are 1.5-2 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Syria

In Iraq there is around 3-5 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Iraq

The source used above (Wikipedia) states 3-4 million Kurds in Iraq.

In Turkey there are between 15-20 million Kurds.

28 million versus 6 million.

That is almost 5 times more Kurds in Turkey and Iran than in Syria and Iraq.
your logic is flawed ,because instead of population percentage , you use total population

Iraq never lost against Iran. Iraq inflicted many more casualties on Iran and destruction than vice versa. The war was a stalemate.

Nationalism and patriotism is not trash at all.

That was after the defeat in the First Gulf War and was done after rebellions in the South (the opposition against Saddam was mostly Islamist in nature) in order to appeal to Shias and Islamists (religious South).

Al-Assad remains an Ba'athi and Syria remains the Syrian Arab Republic, all Ba'ath symbols remain, flags, curriculum etc. remains in place.

Well, on the contrary. Healthy patriotism and nationalism are irreplaceable ideologies in the modern-day world.

You are confusing healthy nationalism and patriotism with fascism, racist policies and pseudo-nationalism/patriotism.

Nazis, Fascists and Bolsheviks/Communists always considered themselves as the greatest nationalists, lol.
just looking at the Iraq and Iran Army strength before and after the war tell you ho much help each country recieved .
About purchase of arms ,in the shah era . he bought a lot , but for example each f-14 need 24h of maintenance for 8 h of flight.
at the onset of war Iran Iraq
Tank----------------------2100(500)---------------2800
Fighter/Bomber-----------485(100)----------------380
Helicopter -------------------750--------------------350
Soldiers--------------------150000----------------200000
APC--------------------------1000-------------------4000
Artillery-----------------300(Operable)--------------1200
in 1982
Tank---------------------------700------------------1200
Fighter/Bomber---------------350-------------------450
Helicopter --------------------700-------------------180
Soldiers--------------------350000----------------175000
APC--------------------------2700-------------------2300
Artillery-----------------------400--------------------400
and after that the help for Iraq begin and at the end of war
Tank-------------------------1000------------------~5000
Fighter/Bomber-------------60-80------------------900
Helicopter -------------------750--------------------350
Soldiers--------------------600000----------------1500000
APC--------------------------800-----------------8500-10000
Artillery-----------------------600------------------->6000

that's what it s written in Wikipedia , so you can't compare the amount of support both country received. about the casualties,well its expected just by looking at the amount of artillery and and use of chemical weapon by one side.

@Shapur Zol Aktaf

Just like people in Iran followed pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions in Iran, prior to Zoroastrianism, people in Arabia also followed Zoroastrianism in parts of Eastern Arabia and Najd. In particular kingdoms ruled by the Banu Tamim dynasty/clan/tribe.

I wonder what the oldest religion looked like? I don't know anything about pre-Islamic Eastern Africa/Horn of Africa religions but a secret might lie there or among the Khoisan people that apparently all people can trace their maternal lineages to.

I once saw an interesting documentary about some British anthropologist traveling to Africa and there he met some African elders/shaman who told him about the story of human migrations that they have been told from generation to generation. Surprisingly it sounded similar to the supposed history of human migration themselves.

The world is a strange place. Let alone the universe.
it depends on what you call religion , when you see neanderthals ritually buried their dead then thats also a sign of religion , I believe religion date far older than that ,but I think the oldest sign of religion in modern human available now is remain of a body cremated and buried near lake mungo from 40000 years ago and also there are Anthropomorphic sculpture from 38000 years ago
 
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