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Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

They get support with thousands of tanks, artillery and 2 air forces. Still lose to lightly armed rebels with rusty AK on toyotas. New and new batches are brought all the time because they are expended fast. Now they send another 2000.


1) Each month of this war costs Russia and Iran over billion dollars.
2) Each month of this war US sponsored Kurdistan is growing.

I'll reply on your post with another view.
They have cut off the main road of smuggling oil and gas what is priority number one.
Also they make smashing the terrorist organizations with minimal casualties.
And they make new allies for future interests.
Not to mention weapon testing and selling.
That's pretty well achievement on long term.
 
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About the first one let it known all those men are Iraqis lived in Syria since nineties so there is not much of reserve to replace the dead I understand your frustration.

Yes Russia and Iran spend money to keep Syria holding but that not real big when they declare victory it's not even big when that billion divided by two big countries now do you know the rebels also costing big money it costs so far 45 billion dollar the countries that support them also I think the number is way bigger than that 360 K just foreigners entered Syria we are not talking about the Syrian rebels.
360 K foreigners. How can a person with IQ more than 10 seriously believe in that number?

I'll reply on your post with another view.
They have cut off the main road of smuggling oil and gas what is priority number one.
Also they make smashing the terrorist organizations with minimal casualties.
And they make new allies for future interests.
Not to mention weapon testing and selling.
That's pretty well achievement on long term.
The only one who is smuggling oil there are Kurds. And they keep growing.
 
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Russia drops clusters and incendiary bombs on towns in Idlib. Apparently avenging shot down military helicopter.


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Notice all those who cried for Russian soldier bodies dont give a damn about alive civilians
 
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360 K foreigners. How can a person with IQ more than 10 seriously believe in that number?
That's not me sir that a study by the German I may have low IQ but the I don't think the German as low as me other wise you wouldn't boast about the german subs.
 
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From the FT article that @Star Wars posted. Must read to anyone who is interested in this conflict,

Syria’s opposition has hailed rebel advances in the strategic city of Aleppo as a stunning success for ragtag forces, while the international community looked on as 300,000 Syrians suffered a weeks-long siege.

But the offensive against President Bashar al-Assad’s troops may have had more foreign help than it appears — activists and rebels say opposition forces were replenished with new weapons, cash and other supplies before and during the fighting.

At the border yesterday we counted tens of trucks bringing in weapons,” said one Syrian activist, who crosses between Syria and neighbouring Turkey. “It’s been happening daily, for weeks . . . weapons, artillery — we’re not just talking about some bullets or guns.”

Two other rebels, who, like all those interviewed, asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject, described cash and supplies being ferried in for weeks. They and others believe the money and supplies came from regional backers, including Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and were sent in trucks across Turkey’s border with Syria.

This was in spite of the fact that the rebel offensive — dubbed “the great Aleppo battle” — has been led and organised by Jabhat Fatah al-Sham, a jihadi group formerly known as Jabhat al-Nusra.

Some rebels claim that US officials supporting moderate rebel forces intentionally turned a blind eye to Fatah al-Sham’s participation in the offensive to ensure the opposition maintains a foothold in Aleppo.

“The Americans, of course, knew what was going on. They ignored it to put some pressure back on Russia and Iran,” said a western diplomat in contact with the opposition.

Both Iran and Russia back the Assad regime, and Russian air power was critical to the government laying its weeks-long siege on rebel-held areas of Aleppo. Rebel fighters claim they broke the siege on their territory when they advanced into regime-held districts over the weekend and have vowed to retake the whole of Aleppo.

Opposition fighters, Islamists and jihadists have waged fierce assaults since July 31 to end the siege by government forces of some 250,000 people in Aleppo's eastern districts. Rebel and regime forces have fought for control of the provincial capital since mid-2012, transforming the former economic powerhouse into a divided, bombed-out city.

They say there are strong strategic reasons for some foreign powers to want to quietly help the opposition in Aleppo.

The city is Syria’s largest and the last remaining urban stronghold of the rebels, who have been fighting for five years against Mr Assad. Without it, they could become a rural rebellion with far less pressure to bear on political negotiations that world powers hope will end the bloodshed.

The rebels’ foreign backers have grown increasingly frustrated over missed deadlines for peace talks that are to be brokered by the US and Russia.

Washington set the last deadline for August 1, which it and Moscow then ignored. Instead US and Russian officials said they were close to finalising a plan to jointly target Jabhat al-Nusra, which was al-Qaeda’s Syria affiliate, and Isis.

"This was internally planned, and it succeeded not because of outside support but because Fatah al-Sham and the other jihadi groups are incredibly disciplined with plenty of guys willing to blow themselves up at the front"

In weeks of unresolved wrangling over that plan, Nusra dissolved itself, revoked direct ties to al-Qaeda and renamed itself Jabhat Fatah al-Sham. It is now credited with masterminding the rebels’ Aleppo advances.

Adel Jubair, Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister, has repeatedly warned that Riyadh could increase military aid to the rebels if attempts to resolve the conflict politically were further disregarded.

“A lot of money has gone in the last month to get all these [rebel] groups to play along [co-ordinate],” said one opposition figure based in Turkey. “That’s the only way you get these guys to work together — you have to pay them.”

Still, some Syria observers believe the role of Fatah al-Sham, not foreign help, explains the change in the rebels’ fortunes.

“The rebels’ problem has never been a lack of weapons,” the western diplomat said. “This was internally planned, and it succeeded not because of outside support but because Fatah al-Sham and the other jihadi groups are incredibly disciplined with plenty of guys willing to blow themselves up at the front.”

But a military analyst close to Gulf officials suspected some fighters working with Fatah al-Sham may not only have received weapons, but also training. He cited a video of artillery strikes that showed explosions timed to hit within seconds of one another.

“That is not a crappy rebel group. That’s a well-trained force. They were landing 10 shells within a 100m square radius,” he said, asking not to be named because he suspected there was Gulf or Turkish involvement. “You need someone to train you . . . in a way someone who understood military doctrine would.”

Two other opposition figures said one of the Islamist forces aligned with Fatah al-Sham had received outside training in recent months.

The problem, critics argue, is that a jihadi-led campaign has emerged as the biggest opposition success story after years of daily bombardment in Aleppo.

“Now we have to deal with a new tragedy: that the saviours of the people of Aleppo include among them a terrorist group,” wrote Abdelaziz Hamza, a Syrian activist and one of the exiled founders of Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently, which documents abuses by the jihadi group Isis. “This terrorist group did more to help the besieged, starved Syrians in Aleppo than the entire international community.”

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Yet still some will continue to pretend that it's just a ragtag team of 100% Syrian farmers with no backing. I mean if 5 years of evidence doesn't open their mind, nothing will.
 
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Looks like the Latakia front has collapsed for the Rebels. SAA steadily advancing.....

remember when the terrorists had 30 000 plus fighters at the beginning at any one time now they cant even fight on multiple fronts. Their source of fighters is finite and the dont expect the saudi army to fight for their mercs, they will try to write a bigger cheque to the Russians who'll just bomb even harder.

About the first one let it known all those men are Iraqis lived in Syria since nineties so there is not much of reserve to replace the dead I understand your frustration.

Yes Russia and Iran spend money to keep Syria holding but that not real big when they declare victory it's not even big when that billion divided by two big countries now do you know the rebels also costing big money it costs so far 45 billion dollar the countries that support them also I think the number is way bigger than that 360 K just foreigners entered Syria we are not talking about the Syrian rebels.

saudis wasted more in Yemen with no outcome, and lost over $100 million in apaches alone !
 
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interesting read, didn't get this bit though
the offensive against President Bashar al-Assad’s troops may have had more foreign help than it appears — activists and rebels say opposition forces were replenished with new weapons, cash and other supplies before and during the fighting.

I thought they were under siege and encircled from all fronts, how were they getting supplies from outside help then ?
 
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interesting read, didn't get this bit though
I thought they were under siege and encircled from all fronts, how were they getting supplies from outside help then ?

Turkish border, finding men for the meat grinder should not be so hard from the refugee camps
 
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Syrian opposition advances in Latakia, retakes strategic citadel
ANADOLU AGENCY
HATAY, Turkey
Published 21 hours ago
Syrian opposition forces have captured the Shalaf Citadel in Jabal al-Akrad region in northwestern Syria after fierce fighting with regime troops, according to local sources.

The sources told Anadolu Agency on Monday that the citadel in Latakia's northern countryside had fallen to regime forces following a ground offensive on Sunday.

"Opposition forces launched a counter attack and managed to regain control of the citadel" near the strategic town of Kinsabba, the sources added on condition of anonymity due to security concerns.

The sources reported casualties on both sides, but declined to give further details.

Syria has been locked in a vicious civil war since early 2011, when the Bashar al-Assad regime cracked down on pro-democracy protests -- which erupted as part of the "Arab Spring" uprisings -- with unexpected ferocity.

Since then, more than a quarter of a million people have been killed and more than 10 million displaced across the war-battered country, according to the UN.

The Syrian Center for Policy Research puts the death toll from the six-year conflict at more than 470,000 people.

http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-cr...advances-in-latakia-retakes-strategic-citadel
 
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3 Ballistic missiles hit Artillery base, something is on the horizon...
 
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The same person who believes Russia is spending over a billion each month in Syria :cheesy:
In 2015 Russian defense spends grew by 15 bln $, despite sever economical crisis. What happened in 2015? Russia started its operation in Syria.

But military spends are not everything. Russia needs to supply both Assad army that fights 24/365 Assad militias and Assad state.

Yet still some will continue to pretend that it's just a ragtag team of 100% Syrian farmers with no backing. I mean if 5 years of evidence doesn't open their mind, nothing will.
Thats exactly what I wrote: US keeps the balance in Syria to prolong the war. In 2013-2014 when Hezbies and Iraqis started advance in Aleppo US gave to rebels some TOWs and they advanced in Daraa.

Then when rebel advances in Daraa became to big US ordered to stop supplies. Now when Putin and Khamenai encircled Aleppo US allowed some supplies to rebels so they broke the siege.

Its funny that Putin and Khamenai with swarms of tanks and jets were encircling Aleppo for 9 months and rebels on Toyotas broke the siege in 6 days.
 
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In 2015 Russian defense spends grew by 15 bln $, despite sever economical crisis. What happened in 2015? Russia started its operation in Syria.

But military spends are not everything. Russia needs to supply both Assad army that fights 24/365 Assad militias and Assad state.


Translation: you are talking out of your *** again :lol: until u can bring up sources to back up your ridiculous claims stay quite, because your just going to embarrass your self more :disagree:
 
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