Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[Saif al-Arab]

No one gave us anything, we are getting our own money.

Also, as an Arab, you can't even talk about relations with U.S. The whole existence of GCC, their whole army and security is literally nothing without U.S. Not even talking about U.S permanent aircraft carriers in Persian Gulf, aka Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait.

Please tell me, as one of the few sane Iranian users here on PDF, that you are joking.

Those 3 areas of Eastern Arabia that you mentioned (Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait) existed for millenniums upon millenniums (recorded history) long before anyone had even heard about what is today America outside of the Indians that were inhabiting it.

If you are talking about the importance of Western technology for the past 500 years, especially on the military sector, then that goes for Iran as well obviously. Without Western technology being present in the MENA region everyone would be the same so have no illusions here.

At least people from Eastern Arabia among other areas of the Arabian Peninsula and Arab world created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (more than any other ethnicity in the top 15 of all time) and the region they inhabited (Arab world) was the leading scientific/military power of the world for millenniums in pre-Islamic times and even for centuries during the age of Islam.

List of largest empires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Let us not go down the route especially not as your country was pro-Western and imported Western weaponry (more than anyone else actually) before 1979. Not only that all the "achievements" of the Mullah's on the military sector involve reverse engineering based on foreign technology (Western imported before 1979 or Russian + Chinese, North Korean etc.).

Especially not considering that your leaders are now shaking hands with the same leaders that they until a few years ago described as mortal enemies.

So let us not go down that route here and focus on Syria instead. The West is a great place btw, you should visit. I suggest France.

 

[SALMAN F]

No one gave us anything, we are getting our own money.

Also, as an Arab, you can't even talk about relations with U.S. The whole existence of GCC, their whole army and security is literally nothing without U.S. Not even talking about U.S permanent aircraft carriers in Persian Gulf, aka Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait.

These terrorists have no shame they say Iraq,iran and Syria are western allies but I don't know what they going to say about their leaders who are the dogs of the west

Well unlike you Arabs don't scream "death to America" every 2 seconds while doing under table deals with America, you on the other hand should cut the hypocrisy and start kissing Aytollah Obama's feet.

Oh yea is not you who claim to be the guardians of the two holy mosques and the guardians of the salaf school also the sons of the mujahideen and the descendants of the sahaba

Ya Obama Madad

Ya obama madad and save the salafi terrorists

Obama doesn't help us but he helps you
Obama drops weapons to the terrorists by mistake and bomb the PMF by mistake when isis threat the kurds obama send his Air Force but when they take over sunni city he doesn't send his Air Force

 

[Serpentine]

Please tell me, as one of the few sane Iranian users here on PDF, that you are joking.

Those 3 areas of Eastern Arabia that you mentioned (Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait) existed for millenniums upon millenniums (recorded history) long before anyone had even heard about what is today America outside of the Indians that were inhabiting it.

If you are talking about the importance of Western technology for the past 500 years, especially on the military sector, then that goes for Iran as well obviously. Without Western technology being present in the MENA region everyone would be the same so have no illusions here.

At least people from Eastern Arabia among other areas of the Arabian Peninsula and Arab world created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (more than any other ethnicity in the top 15 of all time) and the region they inhabited (Arab world) was the leading scientific/military power of the world for millenniums in pre-Islamic times and even for centuries during the age of Islam.

List of largest empires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Let us not go down the route especially not as your country was pro-Western and imported Western weaponry (more than anyone else actually) before 1979. Not only that all the "achievements" of the Mullah's on the military sector involve reverse engineering based on foreign technology (Western imported before 1979 or Russian + Chinese, North Korean etc.).

Especially not considering that your leaders are now shaking hands with the same leaders that they until a few years ago described as mortal enemies.

So let us not go down that route here and focus on Syria instead. The West is a great place btw, you should visit. I suggest France.

I have no idea what you are talking about!

I was talking about U.S military bases in those Arab countries. Now write a long letter in defense of how U.S military bases in GCC is great and how those countries aren't basically rich satellite states, or huge military bases.

Well unlike you Arabs don't scream "death to America" every 2 seconds while doing under table deals with America, you on the other hand should cut the hypocrisy and start kissing Aytollah Obama's feet.

I already told you who is actually kissing America's feet, and it's Gulfie Arabs.

We haven't done any secret deal with U.S or any political agreement about anything else besides nuclear issue. We got our rights and our money back. We didn't buy billions of dollars of arms from them, neither did we beg them to protect us from anyone or to 'guarantee' our security and more importantly, we are not hosting one single U.S soldier, unlike GCC.

So, if any one is completely fit to say Ya Obama Madad or Ya America Madad, it's you and your Gulfie brothers, as they have been doing it in past decades.

 

[SALMAN F]

Please tell me, as one of the few sane Iranian users here on PDF, that you are joking.

Those 3 areas of Eastern Arabia that you mentioned (Bahrain, Qatar and Kuwait) existed for millenniums upon millenniums (recorded history) long before anyone had even heard about what is today America outside of the Indians that were inhabiting it.

If you are talking about the importance of Western technology for the past 500 years, especially on the military sector, then that goes for Iran as well obviously. Without Western technology being present in the MENA region everyone would be the same so have no illusions here.

At least people from Eastern Arabia among other areas of the Arabian Peninsula and Arab world created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (more than any other ethnicity in the top 15 of all time) and the region they inhabited (Arab world) was the leading scientific/military power of the world for millenniums in pre-Islamic times and even for centuries during the age of Islam.

List of largest empires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Let us not go down the route especially not as your country was pro-Western and imported Western weaponry (more than anyone else actually) before 1979. Not only that all the "achievements" of the Mullah's on the military sector involve reverse engineering based on foreign technology (Western imported before 1979 or Russian + Chinese, North Korean etc.).

Especially not considering that your leaders are now shaking hands with the same leaders that they until a few years ago described as mortal enemies.

So let us not go down that route here and focus on Syria instead. The West is a great place btw, you should visit. I suggest France.

He means the modern states and not thousands years ago

 

[Saif al-Arab]

He means the modern states and not thousands years ago

The current reality is covered in post 8926. Nobody can counter what I wrote because it's the truth and nothing but the truth.

Anyway back to Syria.

Let Syrians decide their future | Arab News
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It seems that the international community did not learn anything from the Balkan War of the 1990's. Quite shocking.

Also Syrians cannot decide anything on their own when their country is basically one giant war zone and their regime is basically kept alive by outsiders. Similarly you have plagues like Daesh and al-Nusra.

The Syrian in between of all of those evil parties (the average Syrian) has no say inside Syria or outside of it as either he or she left Syria long ago. How many Syrians have left their country since spring 2011? Millions upon millions.

I don't understand how the world can look silently at the tragedy unfolding in Syria and then they wonder why Daesh's power is increasing. No wonder when there is no country anymore almost!

Anyone with enough of money and guns can dictate anything. There is zero accountability. It's the Wild West.

How hard can it be for the UN to agree on taking action? I mean anything to stop the bloodshed. I bet if a powerful act takes the first direct step in Syria others will rush in. It's just that nobody is willing to take that first deciding step and say enough is enough and remove Daesh, the Al-Assad regime etc. and give the opportunity for Syrians to elect their own leaders.

 

[Antaréss]

@Dr.Thrax, any idea who is fighting in Al-Zabadani ??, so many Hizbullah members were killed but I don't want to post of them. Da'ish has published some images of their dummies while hiding behind walls, claiming the images were shot in Al-Zabadani. On the other hand, not a single image was published by anyone else.

 

[power of steel]

Russia sending airbourne forces to Syria to kill Islamists.

Russia Ready To Send Paratroopers To Syria | Zero Hedge

@Dr.Thrax, any idea who is fighting in Al-Zabadani ??, so many Hizbullah members were killed but I don't want to post of them. Da'ish has published some images of their dummies while hiding behind walls, claiming the images were shot in Al-Zabadani. On the other hand, not a single image was published by anyone else.

Zabadani is a big Islamist stronghold. Will take like a year to clear that town of Islamists. SAA and Hezbollah captured the western portion of the town.

PressTV-Syria army, Hezbollah advance in Zabadani

 

[Antaréss]

@power of steel, are you using Tor browser ?
And is that your 10th or 100th account ?

Also Syrians cannot decide anything on their own when their country is basically one giant war zone and their regime is basically kept alive by outsiders. Similarly you have plagues like Daesh and al-Nusra.

Had foreigners never interfered from both sides, it would have been better .

 

[power of steel]

Had foreigners never interfered from both sides, it would have been better .

We don't live in a vacuum, do we?

Syrian soldiers are the worst kind in the world. They didn't have a problem slaughtering Muhammed (PBUH)'s grandsons. They don't have a problem slaughtering innocent civilians.

 

[Dr.Thrax]

@Dr.Thrax, any idea who is fighting in Al-Zabadani ??, so many Hizbullah members were killed but I don't want to post of them. Da'ish has published some images of their dummies while hiding behind walls, claiming the images were shot in Al-Zabadani. On the other hand, not a single image was published by anyone else.

Ahrar al Sham & Jabhat al Nusra. ISIS said they "fight in Zabadani" purely for PR purposes, rebel-held and ISIS-held Western Qalamoun are no longer connected. Rebels kicked out ISIS and then SAA took their place. Ahrar & JaN aren't making a mistake like in Qusayr, this time they know how to destroy Hezbollah. Hezbollah have been "making major gains" for weeks now, obviously nothing has happened, meaning they're losing badly. The rebels would pull out from a location, let Hezbollah come in, have some nasty booby traps and ambushes set up, and kick them back out again. Unfortunately Zabadani will probably be flattened before all the rebels are killed, there is already major damage to large parts of the city. By now, over 1,000 missiles and barrel bombs each have been launched at the city.
Note: While Ahrar did disavow JaN and distanced themselves from them a few weeks ago, it's hard not to co-operate with JaN considering how effective they are, and the fact that in Zabadani they're besieged. Ahrar still stand firm in disliking JaN's ideology and approach on the revolution, though.

Russia sending airbourne forces to Syria to kill Islamists.

Russia Ready To Send Paratroopers To Syria | Zero Hedge




Zabadani is a big Islamist stronghold. Will take like a year to clear that town of Islamists. SAA and Hezbollah captured the western portion of the town.

PressTV-Syria army, Hezbollah advance in Zabadani

Probably not going to happen. If Russia does send it troops, well, Syria will be Assad's, Iran's, and Russia's graveyard.
And please, do NOT use PressTV as a source. They are as reliable as Fox News. Actually, the idiots at Fox are probably still more reliable. Plus, as I said above, Hezbollah have been saying that they've been making "major gains" in Zabadani for ages, and if that were true, Zabadani must be a city 50 km across

 

[500]

Rebels re-take Tel Hamki:

Assadists flee:

 

[500]

Assadists flee, all they achieved is destroying Zeyzoun power plant:

Destruction happened after is was captured by rebels totally unharmed:

 

[Dr.Thrax]

Ghab plains after SAA counter-offensive:

Ghab plains after Jaysh al Fateh Counteroffensive:

 

[500]

First Assads barrel bombed Zeyzoun powr plant in order to capture it from rebels. Now they barrel bomb it again after retreating:

scorched earth policy

 

[Hindustani78]

US military launches first Syria drone strike from base in Turkey | Zee News
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 - 23:38

Washington: The US military has carried out its first drone strike from a base in Turkey against Islamic State targets in Syria, the Pentagon said on Wednesday, adding that preparations were under way for strikes by manned US aircraft as well.

Turkey last month agreed to let the United States launch strikes against Islamic State militants from Turkey, a long-awaited concession by a NATO ally which has disagreed with Washington over policy in Syria.

Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said an American drone aircraft carried out the first strike on Monday from Incirlik, a major air base near the southern city of Adana. He declined to provide further details.

"The US and Turkey have decided to deepen our cooperation broadly in the counter-ISIL fight," Davis said, using an acronym for Islamic State.

Turkey said earlier on Wednesday a U.S.-led coalition will soon launch a "comprehensive battle" against Islamic State militants from Turkish air bases.

Ankara and Washington have been working on plans to provide air cover for a group of U.S.-trained Syrian rebels and jointly sweep Islamic State from a strip of territory stretching about 80 km (50 miles) along the Turkish frontier.

But those rebels have faced dramatic early setbacks: some are believed to have been captured by al Qaeda`s Syria wing, Nusra Front, and one is believed to have been killed last week.

Reuters