Syria says Russian missile defence system ‘ineffective’

[Yaseen1]

i think russia is surviving only due to nuclear weapons,without nukes they can be easily defeated by any of the european nation

You are free to try with whatever you have!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hack-Hook]

You are free to try with whatever you have!!!!!!!!!!!!!

russian airplane we have Su-24 , Mig-21 and Mig-29 , but why we use that when we can target the enemy craft 200km away from ground and why we want to do that its arund 200 years we have a nonaggression policy why we want to change that ?

i think russia is surviving only due to nuclear weapons,without nukes they can be easily defeated by any of the european nation

usa was defeated in vietnam even with nukes

 

[zartosht]

Israel takes calculated, and carefully planned out shots against a bombed out shell of a country. that's going thru a grueling war with 100s of thousands of casualties.

really not a fair scenario. I doubt israeli airforce would survive 1 hour over Russian airspace with the systems some people are mocking. there are many many factors involved.

i think russia is surviving only due to nuclear weapons,without nukes they can be easily defeated by any of the european nation

Napolean and Hitler disagree with this statement

Almost every dictator in the region is still 'on his seat'. Are we supposed to be impressed or something.

few governments on earth would have survived what the Syrian government survived.

 

[Old School]

Read the names of major buyers of Russian weapon systems and you get the picture. Also look at the nature of those buyers' governments.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

dude...don't have a hissy fit
1. isreali defense forces & missile effectiveness is not anything super outta this world & superior to everyone else...your just lucky enough enough to have complete buffoons as the enemy whose "military's" soul job is to keep their own people scared & the brutal dictator in power, not the nation's defense.
2. As per per our Intel, the isreali spyders were also protecting the 6 indian military bases & ammunition depots that we bombed without getting tracked by the spyders let alone getting locked on.
3. indians still need to answer for how on earth was the isreali phalcon aewacs wasn't able to track a single aircraft attacking the 6 indian military bases. can't say the phalcon wasn't there since that media flop show they present of the PAF F16 getting "shot down" that got debunked as fake was from the phalcon. so it was definitely there operating in the theater of operations.
Conclusion: ya ain't all that...GET OVER IT!

4 - Israeli gadgets on Mig21-bison and SU30 which failed miserably. This was actually highlight in the Swift retort documentary. @30:50

 

[500]

Hamas toppled Lieberman and not Assad.

Much of those people just served their terms and finished.

Also Assad is posterboy for Russian, Eastern European, Chinese, Iranian, Iraqi interests. He's irrelevant. If Russia didn't intervene his regime would have collapsed.

Lieberman just has personal issues with Netanyahu. And by the way, Lieberman never said that Assad must go.

Those Syrian operators are either totally incompetent or not trained properly.

More competent than Iranian Tor operators.

well

and the list is becoming bigger

They just finished their terms.

Omar Bashir, first Arab leader who visited Assad after the beginning of the war. Soon after this visit he was overthrown.

The biggest curse on nations who support Assad: both Russia and Iran are in deep economic crisis.

 

[GumNaam]

4 - Israeli gadgets on Mig21-bison and SU30 which failed miserably. This was actually highlight in the Swift retort documentary. @30:50

but but but...it...it was...it was top tier, top tier I tell you, top tier!!!

 

[Beny Karachun]

The claims are valid as the Swordfish and Phalcons are deployed against Pakistan. You asked what happened on Feb 27 my friend, i answered.

Since when are our radar systems at question? That was my point. Also, how can you tell if the F-16s were detected by radar or not? From what I understood there was an air battle, that means they were detected.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Since when are our radar systems at question? That was my point.

When did i question it? You asked a question and we answered. Israeli Radars and Avionics are absolutely top notch, there are no disagreements there.

Also, how can you tell if the F-16s were detected by radar or not? From what I understood there was an air battle, that means they were detected.

It was not the F16's but the Mirages that slipped past radar detection of Swordfish and the Phalcons, dropped their payloads without getting challenged and turned back. Once the deed had been done, the chasing IAF CAP's were then engaged by PAF fast movers that were providing top cover to the Mirages, so no the Mirages were not detected as they flied low and masked the terrain.

 

[Beny Karachun]

the spyper shot down an unarmed surveillance drone...big whoop! the that its radars couldn't operate in an ew environment given were bombed indian based right under the spyder's nose & phalcon's eye while not being able to distinguish between an F16 & an mi17 speaks wonders about your "top tier" equipment. And nothing is impenetrable son. sooner or later, the batteries run out of missiles...your just lucky that your enemies are inept & incompetent. up against a professional force & well trained force, you'd be in trouble in all 3 dimensions of war. but if you still believe you're "top tier" then good for you, knock yourself out...

As it was inteded to.

Even your friends disagree with you, they claim it wasn't the Spyders fault, but the fault of its operators. You seem to think mistakes India made are somehow the fault of Israeli equipment.

I just don't know about that radar incident. Maybe you flew behind mountains. Maybe the radars weren't activated, or maybe you're just lying and the F-16s were detected. I don't know.

Israel is probably the strongest country for its size.
One of the strongest countries in general.
Not just militarily. So just be quiet and don't embarrass yourself.

When did i question it? You asked a question and we answered. Israeli Radars and Avionics are absolutely top notch, there are no disagreements there.

Sorry, it wasn't you. It was @GumNaam .
He thinks Feb 27th events mean Israeli equipment is garbage.

It was not the F16's but the Mirages that slipped past radar detection of Swordfish and the Phalcons, dropped their payloads without getting challenged and turned back. Once the deed had been done, the chasing IAF CAP's were then engaged by PAF fast movers that were providing top cover to the Mirages, so no the Mirages were not detected as they flied low and masked the terrain.

@GumNaam Read quote above.
If this is the case, it isn't the radars fault because the radars can't pick on objects flying behind cover.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Even your friends disagree with you, they claim it wasn't the Spyders fault, but the fault of its operators. You seem to think mistakes India made are somehow the fault of Israeli equipment.

Nobody thinks Israeli defence tech is inferior. Its absolutely top notch and certainly very coveted. If Pakistan-Israel had defence relations, i know for a fact there is a lot of tech that Pakistan Armed Forces would love to acquire.

Israel is probably the strongest country for its size.
One of the strongest countries in general.
Not just militarily. So just be quiet and don't embarrass yourself.

No doubt about it. Israel has by far the most well disciplined fighting force in the region and has absolutely stomped on its rivals despite its small size. I know our Indian friends have an absolute fascination to emulate Israel as to how she deals with her rivals.

 

[Armchair]

@PanzerKiel thought this may interest you as Pak is getting Pantsir.

 

[GumNaam]

As it was inteded to.

oh goody...at least it works against a stray unarmed spy drone!

Even your friends disagree with you, they claim it wasn't the Spyders fault, but the fault of its operators. You seem to think mistakes India made are somehow the fault of Israeli equipment.

I'd believe it if it was just a one off error...when almost all the spyders fail to track n lock then its not the operator, but the piece of junk he is operating. let's face it, spyder batteries are crawling all over iok and yet, they have nothing to show for accept a one off stray drone. on paper & in tests, even the s400 looked menacing but we all know how badly it flopped in real war scenarios.

I just don't know about that radar incident. Maybe you flew behind mountains. Maybe the radars weren't activated, or maybe you're just lying and the F-16s were detected. I don't know.

so there's this thing called youtube...may wanna go look up the indian air force's press conference where they were touting the "air situation" images from your phalcon's radars. even though no one believed that load of horse manure, one thing was clear, the isreali made phalcons were indeed being used in the theatre of operation & failed to detect any single one of the attackers to any of the 6 bases that were bombed...that much, you gotta be savvy with, can't hide behind "I just don't know:" gimmicks.

Israel is probably the strongest country for its size.
One of the strongest countries in general.
Not just militarily. So just be quiet and don't embarrass yourself.

son, you sound like an over zealous pre-teenager hyped on all the patriotic b.s. governments feed their people so I'm just troll the living turds outta you. with unconditional support from america & all of europe, why wouldn't you be the strongest country in general? In spite of all the unconditional support & tech transfer from america and all the european countries, you couldn't even make a radar that could distinguish between an F16 & an mi17...I wouldn't go around chest thumping if I was you...

Sorry, it wasn't you. It was @GumNaam .
He thinks Feb 27th events mean Israeli equipment is garbage.

don't feel bad...its about as garbagy as your russian counterpart's equipment, so don't feel so special.

@GumNaam Read quote above.
If this is the case, it isn't the radars fault because the radars can't pick on objects flying behind cover.

uhm, go back & read what you said...cover was the "AIR COVER" flying ABOVE the strike aircrafts to prevent any interceptions which they did. and the cover was NOT provided by F16s, it was provided by JF17s that crossed over with the Mirages. those should've CLEARLY been picked up by the phalcons & the swordfish. in fact, wish you hadn't mentioned his post cuz I didn't even know that the swordfish radars were also deployed there, that makes your technology look even MORE junky! now shut up & sit down before you embarrass yourself any further. I'm gonna love trollin' this kid!

 

[Beny Karachun]

oh goody...at least it works against a stray unarmed spy drone!

Imagine coping this hard

I'd believe it if it was just a one off error...when almost all the spyders fail to track n lock then its not the operator, but the piece of junk he is operating. let's face it, spyder batteries are crawling all over iok and yet, they have nothing to show for accept a one off stray drone. on paper & in tests, even the s400 looked menacing but we all know how badly it flopped in real war scenarios.

Cope

so there's this thing called youtube...may wanna go look up the indian air force's press conference where they were touting the "air situation" images from your phalcon's radars. even though no one believed that load of horse manure, one thing was clear, the isreali made phalcons were indeed being used in the theatre of operation & failed to detect any single one of the attackers to any of the 6 bases that were bombed...that much, you gotta be savvy with, can't hide behind "I just don't know:" gimmicks.

Bro I frankly don't care about India or Pakistan.
Israel has enough operational history to base our weapons capabilities upon, without reviewing our exported weapon success rate. Which is high, by the way.

son, you sound like an over zealous pre-teenager hyped on all the patriotic b.s. governments feed their people so I'm just troll the living turds outta you. with unconditional support from america & all of europe, why wouldn't you be the strongest country in general? In spite of all the unconditional support & tech transfer from america and all the european countries, you couldn't even make a radar that could distinguish between an F16 & an mi17...I wouldn't go around chest thumping if I was you...

Cope again
Alright mate our radars can distinguish between rockets but can't distinguish between an Mi-17 and an F-16.

don't feel bad...its about as garbagy as your russian counterpart's equipment, so don't feel so special.

I have a feeling you're just saying both are trash because India owns both Russian and Israeli equipment.

uhm, go back & read what you said...cover was the "AIR COVER" flying ABOVE the strike aircrafts to prevent any interceptions which they did. and the cover was NOT provided by F16s, it was provided by JF17s that crossed over with the Mirages. those should've CLEARLY been picked up by the phalcons & the swordfish. in fact, wish you hadn't mentioned his post cuz I didn't even know that the swordfish radars were also deployed there, that makes your technology look even MORE junky! now shut up & sit down before you embarrass yourself any further. I'm gonna love trollin' this kid!

Massive cope again
By cover I mean mountains, physical cover.
Yea alright you're trolling me so bad i literally burned my house down.

My guess is you are a 15 year old acting up as an older guy.

 

[Gripen9]

Israeliz hit you with f35s and cruise missiles and u expect to be defended by those spikes..?

Make an airforce invade israel every day. Shoot them down in their own skies that is how you defend urself. Not hiding behind s300..

You guys in syria need a good airforce a potent one.

Beka'a Valley 1982. Israeli AF 83 - SAAF 0.