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Syria says Russian missile defence system ‘ineffective’

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The Spyder system shot down a Pakistani drone and an Indian helicopter. The friendly fire mistake was on behalf of the crew operating the Spyder, not the missile system's fault. The missile did what it was intended to do and destroyed 2 targets. So @GumNaam should take his words back regarding Israeli missile defense effectiveness.

The IFF system on the Indian helicopter was switched off, and SOP calls for this to be circulated to the Air Defence crews. This was not done; the crew saw a strange image on their screen and fired. Nothing wrong with the system. The persons responsible for this failure of communication are in the process of being cashiered.
 
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dude...don't have a hissy fit
1. isreali defense forces & missile effectiveness is not anything super outta this world & superior to everyone else...your just lucky enough enough to have complete buffoons as the enemy whose "military's" soul job is to keep their own people scared & the brutal dictator in power, not the nation's defense.
2. As per per our Intel, the isreali spyders were also protecting the 6 indian military bases & ammunition depots that we bombed without getting tracked by the spyders let alone getting locked on.
3. indians still need to answer for how on earth was the isreali phalcon aewacs wasn't able to track a single aircraft attacking the 6 indian military bases. can't say the phalcon wasn't there since that media flop show they present of the PAF F16 getting "shot down" that got debunked as fake was from the phalcon. so it was definitely there operating in the theater of operations.
Conclusion: ya ain't all that...GET OVER IT!
1. I remember you said Israeli air defense "duds", now you just say our air defense "isn't out of this world", get a hold of your story.
Israeli air defenses are top tier.

2. I don't get your point. Why use an export oriented missile system as an example of Israel's air defenses? Leave the fact that it made a hit both the times it was launched. Spyder is a relatively close range SAM, more intended towards low flying helicopters and jets. I don't know much about the incident anyways.
Israeli David's Sling and Arrow missile systems are amongst the best, if not the best in their fields.

3. Bro I don't know, nor do I care about whatever happened or did not happen in your clashes with India. Israeli airspace is impenetrable, and our radar systems are also amongst the best out there.

PAF jets avoided the detection of Israeli made Phalcons and Swordfish radars to carry out ground airstrikes against targets inside India.
I don't know about the validity of that claim and it clearly isn't the topic of the conversation my friend

The Russian air defense system is very good. The most important factor is still its user.
They didn't prove themselves yet. Even after all those years
 
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1. I remember you said Israeli air defense "duds", now you just say our air defense "isn't out of this world", get a hold of your story.
Israeli air defenses are top tier.

2. I don't get your point. Why use an export oriented missile system as an example of Israel's air defenses? Leave the fact that it made a hit both the times it was launched. Spyder is a relatively close range SAM, more intended towards low flying helicopters and jets. I don't know much about the incident anyways.
Israeli David's Sling and Arrow missile systems are amongst the best, if not the best in their fields.

3. Bro I don't know, nor do I care about whatever happened or did not happen in your clashes with India. Israeli airspace is impenetrable, and our radar systems are also amongst the best out there.


I don't know about the validity of that claim and it clearly isn't the topic of the conversation my friend


They didn't prove themselves yet. Even after all those years

USA and Russia are the big boys with the best militaries. Israel can make good stuff.

China just imitates. Even cnt do that properly.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...ver-bought-russias-old-aircraft-carrier-92866

At least Russia made some money from the scrap. One persons scrap is another persons gold.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ers-china-buyers-circle-idUSTRE76L54J20110722

Some more Chinese scrap purchases. This time from UK. This seems to be China's specialism.
 
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1. I remember you said Israeli air defense "duds", now you just say our air defense "isn't out of this world", get a hold of your story.
Israeli air defenses are top tier.

2. I don't get your point. Why use an export oriented missile system as an example of Israel's air defenses? Leave the fact that it made a hit both the times it was launched. Spyder is a relatively close range SAM, more intended towards low flying helicopters and jets. I don't know much about the incident anyways.
Israeli David's Sling and Arrow missile systems are amongst the best, if not the best in their fields.

3. Bro I don't know, nor do I care about whatever happened or did not happen in your clashes with India. Israeli airspace is impenetrable, and our radar systems are also amongst the best out there.
the spyper shot down an unarmed surveillance drone...big whoop! the that its radars couldn't operate in an ew environment given were bombed indian based right under the spyder's nose & phalcon's eye while not being able to distinguish between an F16 & an mi17 speaks wonders about your "top tier" equipment. And nothing is impenetrable son. sooner or later, the batteries run out of missiles...your just lucky that your enemies are inept & incompetent. up against a professional force & well trained force, you'd be in trouble in all 3 dimensions of war. but if you still believe you're "top tier" then good for you, knock yourself out...
 
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this should be matter of concern for india who are living in dream that s400 can intercept missiles in case of war
 
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The IFF system on the Indian helicopter was switched off, and SOP calls for this to be circulated to the Air Defence crews. This was not done; the crew saw a strange image on their screen and fired. Nothing wrong with the system. The persons responsible for this failure of communication are in the process of being cashiered.
ISI ki napak sajish or Indian incompetence in war time. Either way :lol:
 
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Isrealis have studied Russian systems strengths and weaknesses. Isrealis have advantages they can attack without any fear of a response.

Russians will benefit in seeing what they need to do in improving systems. Syria is naturally the loser.
 
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Almost every dictator in the region is still 'on his seat'. Are we supposed to be impressed or something.
no not every

Which Russian system is effective to begin with??? PAF and TurAF have made it into a habit to shooting down the Russian jets at will....
Su-24 and Mig-21 indeed very hard target and Advanced platforms
 
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