Swaraj’s suggestion on Gita against secularism: NCP, SP

[OrionHunter]

Gita is not a Hindu scripture. Hindu scripture are the Vedas and the Upanishads. Gita can at best be described as moral science. Even the Vedas are India's national scripture. That will also be established.

Right!

Swami Chinmayananda writes:

"Here in the Bhagavad Gita, we find a practical handbook of instruction on how best we can re-organise our inner ways of thinking, feeling, and acting in our everyday life and draw from ourselves a larger gush of productivity to enrich the life around us, and to emblazon the subjective life within us."

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Your Indian prime minister had done a lot of work. So no work is left for NRI prime minister to do. Your Indian prime minister had build excellent relations with neighbors so NRI PM is just going there to relax. Your Indian prime minister had bought down Inflation to 7 to 8% which has incresed to 1.75% now. From Railway to defense, everything was fine which is Derailed by NRI prime minister.

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[ranjeet]

No demand is very genuine. Our generations are loosing ethics and morality. We need to bring them back on track. We must give them philosophical teaching which may led them on the path of peace and good. Gita can very much do that. Recently Harward introduced Gita in their syllabus. Today Yoga and Gita are taught in highest institute like Harward and IIMs. But when we try to introduce that inour school syllabus , these moron pops up and oppose who have never opposed any religious based fundamental teaching. We must go ahead with introducing whatever we feel right without any way worrying about these morons. They are on the path of decline and disappear very soon.

So make Gita more available through other means, Never took my sanskrit classes seriously because it felt like it was being forced down my throat but had it would have been presented in a different way who knows things would have been different. Moreover Hockey is our National sports ... I don't know how many take it seriously just because its "national" this or that. If people have interest they will flock towards it if not then no matter how hard you try it won't be accepted

 

[vsdave2302]

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When you do not have any logical answer like your madam Sonia, you do persnal attack. You are well known for that on forum.

So make Gita more available through other means, Never took my sanskrit classes seriously because it felt like it was being forced down my throat but had it would have been presented in a different way who knows things would have been different. Moreover Hockey is our National sports ... I don't know how many take it seriously just because its "national" this or that. If people have interest they will flock towards it if not then no matter how hard you try it won't be accepted

You meant to say that whatever we learn is because of our interest.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

So make Gita more available through other means, Never took my sanskrit classes seriously because it felt like it was being forced down my throat but had it would have been presented in a different way who knows things would have been different. Moreover Hockey is our National sports ... I don't know how many take it seriously just because its "national" this or that. If people have interest they will flock towards it if not then no matter how hard you try it won't be accepted

I believe that schools should focus more on vocational/ career oriented stuff than spend too much time on social engineering projects.

 

[ranjeet]

You meant to say that whatever we learn is because of our interest.

learning and understanding something is two different thing. you can learn the shaloks without understanding the true meaning of it.

I believe that schools should focus more on vocational/ career oriented stuff than spend too much time on social engineering projects.

Agree, I think had there been no televised version of Mahabharat of Ramayan half of us wouldn't have know what they were about. School is not the only source where kids get knowledge from.

 

[Prajapati]

learning and understanding something is two different thing. you can learn the shaloks without understanding the true meaning of it.

There are plenty of Engineer around who have Engineering degrees but know nothing about engineering. Does that mean we stop teaching Engineering ?

Agree, I think had there been no televised version of Mahabharat of Ramayan half of us wouldn't have know what they were about. School is not the only source where kids get knowledge from.

Bhagwat Gita is a pretty useful handbook to guide one in life. It is particularly useful in tackling depression and stress. Every school student will stand to gain something if its taught in school. It will also help them decide on Right from Wrong and set an foundation for their ethics and morality in later life.

There is plenty of upside and zero downside.

 

[ranjeet]

There are plenty of Engineer around who have Engineering degrees but know nothing about engineering. Does that mean we stop teaching Engineering ?



Bhagwat Gita is a pretty useful handbook to guide one in life. It is particularly useful in tackling depression and stress. Every school student will stand to gain something if its taught in school. It will also help them decide on Right from Wrong and set an foundation for their ethics and morality in later life.

There is plenty of upside and zero downside.

ok

 

[Indrani]

Sir,Shimad Bhagawat Gita was,is and always will be the national scripture of India(a country of more than 80% Sanatan Dharmic followers) irrespective of the fact whether or not it gets declared officially as one.Bhagawat Gita has always been a part of the culture and tradition of the majority of the population and hence i feel that there is absolutely no need to declared it officially as the National Scripture of this country.Heck even the little kids are aware of it's significance in our culture.So Mrs.Swaraj shouldn't unnecessarily stir up another controversy regarding this matter.

If it is the national scripture of India as you so emphatically state, where is the controversy? If there is controversy, where is the merit in your declaration that it is the national scripture? What kind of logic says that because it is part of culture and tradition of majority it should not be official? Is being part of mainstream culture a disqualification for official recognition in India nowadays?

Gita is not a Hindu scripture. Hindu scripture are the Vedas and the Upanishads. Gita can at best be described as moral science. Even the Vedas are India's national scripture. That will also be established.

Otherwise do away with the other non secular names as well -

Bhisma
Arjun
Chetak
Tejas
Agni
Prithvi
etc etc

Most are Hindu/Indian origin.
Why did Kalam not think about this when making the Agni I? Communal Kalam.

What kind of logic you use when you say it is not Hindu scripture? Even Vedas are moral science if you get the gist of Vedas.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

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No offence taken. But why are you and some people opposing it? Declaring a book "National Status" doesnt mean, it would over - write the constitution or make India a officially Hindu nation. Its just we declare that book is our national treasure. The same status can be accorded to "Tirukkural".

Now, If Koran or Bible were written by ancient Indians , within ancient Indian boundaries, I see no reason for it not be declared as a national treasure. However those books were not written by Indian civilisation and there is no reason they should be considered. If you see, Ramakien , a Thai version of Ramayana is the National Epic of Thailand. Indonesia and Thailand have Garuda as their national symbol cos it was a part of their heritage.

Why should'nt India have the same?
But this issue was unwarranted as we voted BJP to power to make India develop, and not to make one book declared as a national epic. But the words have come on and debate going on. Whats flaw in my reasoning?

 

[Skull and Bones]

Gita is a hindu scripture. No two ways about it. It ain't becoming 'national magazine' or any such thing. Instead of talking BS, sushma and gang should try to do some real work. NRI PM ka eurpean tour wagerah khatam ho gaya to shayad kuch kaam kar lein instead of wasting time on useless debates.

I don't see any harm in making it a national scripture, as it represent the culture of the civilisation. But Vedas should have been an ideal candidate.

 

[Donatello]

It doesn't go against anything when in reality you are not secular.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

I don't see any harm in making it a national scripture, as it represent the culture of the civilisation. But Vedas should have been an ideal candidate.

They are both hindu texts. Therefore should not be made.

No offence taken. But why are you and some people opposing it? Declaring a book "National Status" doesnt mean, it would over - write the constitution or make India a officially Hindu nation. Its just we declare that book is our national treasure. The same status can be accorded to "Tirukkural".

Now, If Koran or Bible were written by ancient Indians , within ancient Indian boundaries, I see no reason for it not be declared as a national treasure. However those books were not written by Indian civilisation and there is no reason they should be considered. If you see, Ramakien , a Thai version of Ramayana is the National Epic of Thailand. Indonesia and Thailand have Garuda as their national symbol cos it was a part of their heritage.

Why should'nt India have the same?
But this issue was unwarranted as we voted BJP to power to make India develop, and not to make one book declared as a national epic. But the words have come on and debate going on. Whats flaw in my reasoning?

It sure goes down that road.

 

[Skull and Bones]

They are both hindu texts. Therefore should not be made.

No, those are the texts created by Hindus which depict the ethical and moral code of a person. One can be a Christian and Muslim and still follow the teaching of Mahabharata without violating their own beliefs.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

No, those are the texts created by Hindus which depict the ethical and moral code of a person. One can be a Christian and Muslim and still follow the teaching of Mahabharata without violating their own beliefs.

This is something that we can dish out till eternity, but you must be naïve to believe that muslims and Christians will 'voluntarily' accept or follow either of these texts.